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Blot Brickworks
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11-19-2008 00:13
From: Jig Chippewa
Speaking from the point of view of a person whose had an ancestor who WAS hanged, your attitude is not surprising.
Puritan? I think you are a "small 'p' Puritan. I was talking to my real mum today about when she wore Mary Quant mini dresses and micro minis and all about teh sexual revolution and how young girls were regarded as immoral if they wore such things. I dont wish to shove sex down anyone's throat or penetrate that armour of modesty that others extol. But what is this moral code everyone keeps talking about? Dont you really mean that you like teh female avatar to be domestic and "politically correct". Watch the Vagina Monolgues again.

And FD - what's wrong with an occasional bit of "casual" sex? Seriously, I dont want a commitment from every man I sleep with in the real world.



As you pointed out in this thread about people from UK.you must accept my apologies,I had no idea that you were female.Of course there is nothing wrong at all in being butch,I always say.

Sorry about your ancestor,I had no idea.I do hope that you are not keeping up a tradition, in your handle, because eating people will do that for you.

Although I did use a small "p" for puritan,actually I am a take the"p" Puritan.

Nice to know your mother wore Marys dresses,that probably gave poor old Alexander a break.Incidentally,again in your handle,If mother was sporting Marys gear unless, of course,she had you late in life.Fine young just might be pushing it.

Now talking about a domestic role,I am a bit PC so my domestics are of both gender.

I not only watch but listen to every song Kyle has ever sung,bless her.

oh! and by the way "bring back hanging" was in homage to Henry Root don't you know .
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Jig Chippewa
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11-19-2008 05:57
From: Blot Brickworks
As you pointed out in this thread about people from UK.you must accept my apologies,I had no idea that you were female.Of course there is nothing wrong at all in being butch,I always say.

Sorry about your ancestor,I had no idea.I do hope that you are not keeping up a tradition, in your handle, because eating people will do that for you.

Although I did use a small "p" for puritan,actually I am a take the"p" Puritan.

Nice to know your mother wore Marys dresses,that probably gave poor old Alexander a break.Incidentally,again in your handle,If mother was sporting Marys gear unless, of course,she had you late in life.Fine young just might be pushing it.

Now talking about a domestic role,I am a bit PC so my domestics are of both gender.

I not only watch but listen to every song Kyle has ever sung,bless her.

oh! and by the way "bring back hanging" was in homage to Henry Root don't you know .


Thanks for that really brill reply. Actually it was my gran who bought them new and faced the music BUT my mum wore them also since the clothes still hang in her dressing room. And even in her time frowns followed her - coz they really both have NICE legs and bums. I wear them very rarely since they are valuable in terms of memory etc. My Mum was a teenager when I was born and my gran was young also for her but really raised me from birth to about four when my mum took over. It was neat to be dragged around liek that. Truth be told, I was conceived in teh back of a Volvo station wagon on a beach in teh Bahamas. So if you are a male and had a f***ing wonderful vacation in teh Bahamas at the start of teh 1980s - hello daddy! :)
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Blot Brickworks
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11-19-2008 06:44
From: Jig Chippewa
Thanks for that really brill reply. Actually it was my gran who bought them new and faced the music BUT my mum wore them also since the clothes still hang in her dressing room. And even in her time frowns followed her - coz they really both have NICE legs and bums. I wear them very rarely since they are valuable in terms of memory etc. My Mum was a teenager when I was born and my gran was young also for her but really raised me from birth to about four when my mum took over. It was neat to be dragged around liek that. Truth be told, I was conceived in teh back of a Volvo station wagon on a beach in teh Bahamas. So if you are a male and had a f***ing wonderful vacation in teh Bahamas at the start of teh 1980s - hello daddy! :)[/QUOTE

I am afraid I must disappoint you.....Wait for it........I am not your father.Although my brother could be.He was there for 3 years at that time and from what he tells me ,was much in demand as a stud.
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Alexa Susanto
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11-19-2008 09:35
The bottom line is, do if you want to, don't if you don't.

Personally I had one SL relationship and that was the first and last. As for 'one-night stands' they never appealed to me in RL and certainly don't in SL.

I live my Second Life quite happily without coming into contact with any of the sex brouhaha but its out there if anyone wants to look for it.
Lindal Kidd
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11-19-2008 10:13
FD,

As an artist, you should know very well that sex is the Number One topic of interest for human beings. Talking about it, thinking about it, getting ready to do it, doing it...and of course dealing with the consequences of doing it, be they emotional or biological. This is hard-wired into us, part of our genetic makeup.

So much of our life is connected in one way or another to sex. Most art is sexual in nature, to a greater or lesser degree. Religions and morals and laws are created to try and regulate human sexual behavior for the good of society (or so it is hoped). Entertainment of all sorts contains or mimics or is a surrogate for sex. All sorts of goods and services...clothes, cars, food, tourism...support or encourage or tie into our sexuality in some fashion, at some level.

In different societies, sex is celebrated, repressed, encouraged, discouraged...

SL mirrors this. It is, after all, a human creation. This particular mirror tends to emphasize sex. Other virtual worlds try (IMO, mistakenly) to deny that it exists.

To question either the joy or the heartache of sex in SL, you need to broaden your scope and ask about its joy and heartache in life itself. And when you do, you find that you have answered yourself: It's just human nature.
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Tarina Sewell
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11-19-2008 10:20
From: Bella Posaner
In my opinion anyone who suffers emotional consequences as a result of virtual sex, had emotional problems to begin with


agreed
Darion Rasmuson
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11-19-2008 10:48
Humans are (well most..) emotional beings. That in itself can be problematic. *shrugs*
Lindal Kidd
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11-19-2008 11:00
From: Bella Posaner
In my opinion anyone who suffers emotional consequences as a result of virtual sex, had emotional problems to begin with


1 user disagreed.

Bella, the sex is virtual, but the emotions are real. It's possible to be just as happy, or just as heartbroken, over an SL romance as over a RL one. We may look like cartoons in a cartoon world, but there is a real person, and a real heart, behind each one of us.

Words and actions can bring joy or sorrow to those real people, no matter what medium they are transmitted through.
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Lindal Kidd
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11-19-2008 12:05
I came for the platform, bought the clothes, adored the skins, learned to build, found some friends, had the sex, and stayed for Skell.

If you wanna have sex in SL, have it. If you want romance, decide if you want RP romance or RL romance, and then find someone who's interested in either you as you or you as your character. If you can't find romance in SL, well... there's always real life. SL can satisfy only so much of our desires, and no further. There will always be something lacking in SL, no matter how hard you try to fulfill yourself there. That's because - as real and as important as it is to many of us, myself included- we still have a life to live and air to draw into our lungs and bills to pay and days and nights to get through. SL is a wondrous platform, full of imagination and creativity and human minds, but it's not the answer to everything. When you turn the computer off, life keeps going on.

It seems to me, FD, that you keep hunting for dinner and settling for saltines. Why not start asking for what you really want, rather than being disappointed that an online imitation of it doesn't suit your needs?
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ZeeScarlet Zenovka
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11-19-2008 12:10
What confuses me is

Gambling was outlawed because its not legal in some states.

Prostitution is outlawed in ALL states...cept maybe parts of Vegas.

Yet online prostitution is okey dokey

and online gambling is bad?
Tarina Sewell
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11-19-2008 12:13
From: Lindal Kidd
1 user disagreed.

Bella, the sex is virtual, but the emotions are real. It's possible to be just as happy, or just as heartbroken, over an SL romance as over a RL one. We may look like cartoons in a cartoon world, but there is a real person, and a real heart, behind each one of us.

Words and actions can bring joy or sorrow to those real people, no matter what medium they are transmitted through.


I dont believe she is speaking about a relationship, I think maybe just sex in general..
Tarina Sewell
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11-19-2008 12:14
From: ZeeScarlet Zenovka
What confuses me is

Gambling was outlawed because its not legal in some states.

Prostitution is outlawed in ALL states...cept maybe parts of Vegas.

Yet online prostitution is okey dokey

and online gambling is bad?



I honestly believe prostitution should be legal and as such regulated. make those whores pay taxes dammit
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11-19-2008 12:19
From: ZeeScarlet Zenovka
What confuses me is

Gambling was outlawed because its not legal in some states.

Prostitution is outlawed in ALL states...cept maybe parts of Vegas.

Yet online prostitution is okey dokey

and online gambling is bad?


Gambling is gambling when money changes hands in a game of chance etc etc. apart from that gambling in SL was a scam fest and good riddance to it. Pixel humping is not prostitution lol
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11-19-2008 12:20
From: ZeeScarlet Zenovka
What confuses me is

Gambling was outlawed because its not legal in some states.

Prostitution is outlawed in ALL states...cept maybe parts of Vegas.

Yet online prostitution is okey dokey

and online gambling is bad?
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The RL problems that occur around RL prostitution are usually STDs and human trafficking. One has the risk of life threatening illness. Another puts a person in an inescapable situation where they may be physically bound to an inhuman and inhumane life. For most of the US and many other countries, the "solution" has been prohibition.

The RL problems that occur around RL gambling are usually addiction and financial ruin with large amounts of accrued debt. Again... For most of the US and some other countries... Prohibition.

While, in SL, STDs are far from reality and slavery is role play that you can escape from via a mouse click. Addiction and financial loss is still very real. While I don't agree with the policy (among many others that ban even more harmless activity). It's there with good intentions.

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Lindal Kidd
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11-19-2008 12:23
From: ZeeScarlet Zenovka
What confuses me is

Gambling was outlawed because its not legal in some states.

Prostitution is outlawed in ALL states...cept maybe parts of Vegas.

Yet online prostitution is okey dokey

and online gambling is bad?


I know...it sounds dumb when you say it like that. And I agree with Tarina about legalizing RL prostitution. But you're forgetting something here...

Online gambling is REAL gambling. Actual money changes hands. Online prostitution is PRETEND prostitution. No bodily fluids are exchanged.

Whether gambling is bad, or real prostitution is bad, or pretend electronic prostitution is bad, are debatable questions. Personally, I'm in favor of all three, with proper safeguards. Let's just make sure we are comparing apples to apples.
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11-19-2008 13:17
From: ZeeScarlet Zenovka
What confuses me is

Gambling was outlawed because its not legal in some states.

Prostitution is outlawed in ALL states...cept maybe parts of Vegas.

Yet online prostitution is okey dokey

and online gambling is bad?

Wrong, Gambling was banned because UNREGULATED gambling is illegal in all states.
Show us a state where there are no regulations on gambling and you have a state that is legal for online gambling.
Is it legal in any of those states to dhufflr the odds on a slot machine according to the bets placed or is it legal to have you playing poker against 3 of the houses employees pretending to be customers?
It was so easy to do this in SL, the house could see everyones cards, hech they ciuld just deal you any cards they feel would suck you in the best.
Wow seriously, prostitution is completely illegal in ALL states of USA? How backward, prostitution is Legal in all Australian states and rgulated with licencing and compilsory medical checks etc. Aren't single people in the great free USA allowed to pay for sex?
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Daros Jewell
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11-19-2008 13:23
From: FD Spark
I don't want to dictate my views or opinions on anyone, anyone who knows me
personally knows that I would never do that or intentionally harm anyone.
What bothers me is the mentality if you're not buying into the sex in SL there
is something wrong with you or you're prude.
Or other who are suppose to be mature adults who have this childish entitlement I can do whatever, whenever and no one else has right to feel uncomfortable by it because this is adult only world.
I am all for freedom but gez can it go both ways keep it out of RA please?
FD



Wait... Dude...you want to keep the topic of sex out of Resident Answers? For everyone? Forever? What?
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Bella Posaner
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11-19-2008 13:28
From: Brenda Connolly
Ugly people can't have fun?


Sure they can, I just don't want to have sex with them, IRL or otherwise. If you're having virtual sex with someone, you are engaging in a sexual act with a real person albeit mentally, personally I like to know who I'm engaging with. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Bella Posaner
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11-19-2008 13:36
From: Lindal Kidd
1 user disagreed.

Bella, the sex is virtual, but the emotions are real. It's possible to be just as happy, or just as heartbroken, over an SL romance as over a RL one. We may look like cartoons in a cartoon world, but there is a real person, and a real heart, behind each one of us.

Words and actions can bring joy or sorrow to those real people, no matter what medium they are transmitted through.


Thanks Lindal, I am beginning to understand that, which is why I have asked question about it on these boards. Because I couldn't understand it, I do understand that there are emotions behind it.

As I met my RL partner on a dating site I can understand how people can get to know someone in the virtual. My policy with online dating was to never ever have any expectations of who the person might be in person. I never allowed myself to become emotional over the net.

But I do understand how it happens, thanks to the insight I have gained from these forums.

Don’t get the one night stands though lol
Bella Posaner
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11-19-2008 13:38
From: Tarina Sewell
I dont believe she is speaking about a relationship, I think maybe just sex in general..


Yeah I was pretty much meaning the random kind of acts and one night stands, not the emotionally involved ones.
FD Spark
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11-20-2008 02:13
Briefly stopping by I guess are hard let the habit die.
I don't know, I was just having very bad week with certain things
I hope most of you never experience in RL or SL.
For most of you it just game, your friendships, your lovers, the dancer at the club
are just play things, when things get difficult you can turn off the computer
and go with your lives.
That is wonderful.
I wish it was that simple for me.
Emotions are real for me even if it just friends, when one friend is cruel
or betrays me it doesn't matter what reality is in.
I just can't turn off the computer and go find another reality.
For me I don't have many other options, if I had them I would have pursued
them.
Most won't get that concept of reality and you're very fortunate to not get it.
Be grateful if you have different options in your life not everyone has those.
I am just tired, ill, depressed and feeling very emotionally damaged at the moment with very little hope for future of my first or second life.
I know it could always be worse, there is lot one could live without and still
have very wonderful life.
But for me personally certain things are off limits.
Sadly I need to break my dependency from SL and forum.
There are certain unavoidable dramas that sometimes happen and they don't just
stay in correct world.
Probably none of you get what I mean.
I guess I brought this subject up I was thinking about the long term effects of toxic
sexual experiences happen, the long term side effects and consequences of those experiences and they aren't just limited to one reality unfortunately.
Every action has reaction, even if it's virtually.
Anyway it doesn't matter what I say or do any more.
Good luck all, be happy, enjoy the choices and freedom you all have in your life.
Good bye.
I may occasionally stop by for funny things that make me laugh here but I am going
in lurker mode.
I have no right to ask anyone to do anything anywhere.
Do whatever what you want, but remember maybe just little bit about the real people
behind your screen that you interact with, they aren't virtual.
/FD goes wonders off to the shadows and leaves the thread, wishes he could delete
the entire thread.
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Atom Burma
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11-20-2008 03:27
From: Bella Posaner
My policy with online dating was to never ever have any expectations of who the person might be in person. I never allowed myself to become emotional over the net.

But I do understand how it happens, thanks to the insight I have gained from these forums.


Another oddity of the online dating world is the level of fantasy. Some people just want the fantasy, the boyfriend/girlfriend is really inconsequential in my opinion. They prefer to know a little, and make up this elaborate fantasy in their head about what they want their bf/gf to be like. So you can't rule out that demographic either.

Online dating isn't just for avatars anymore:)

And i wasn't saying that this poster was doing this, I was using it as a reference on how to date online, well realistically anyway.
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11-20-2008 03:39
FD... You're cursed with a gentle heart. Honestly, in many ways I know how you feel, I'm just doing a better job at masking my feelings to the greater crowd. You may have read in my posts that I'm infatuated with a person here in SL... It's a deep infatuation that affects my every day activities. I find myself distracted simply at the thought of this person. I have obcessed, stalked and harassed this person. To ice the cake... We're close friends inworld. (>_<;)

I'm constantly dealing with my own internal feelings of rejection. Unjustified feelings, like the pangs of being unwonted, the loss of breath when I'm responded to sternly. But... That's just me. I'm selfish and shallow enough to alligator my tears and go on as a bubbly character for the masses. Trust me, that doesn't make me a better person, and it doesn't help my friends when I dominate their time with my emo-guff, attention-whore tactics. (>_<;)

Take care of yourself... Be a friend to your friends... And, honestly, don't change. You have a kind and soft heart, and the fact that you care so much that it hurts really brightens my outlook on the kind of person you are. The problem is... You're beating yourself up. I do the same thing. I can't tell you how to stop, since I can't do it myself... But... Try to find a way to stop and accept that you are appreciated, you are someone people want to meet and talk to, and you can be happy with the simple things. (^_^)y
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FD Spark
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11-20-2008 09:03
Hugs Iamnotgoing. Thanks for the kind words.
Excuse me I am having major case of feeling majorly sorry for myself right now.
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11-20-2008 09:11
FD not all...Oi im still an SL virgin :p...can we try makin a poll see whos still an SL Virgin and Who's Not? or sumthing like that?
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