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Ian Nider
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04-29-2009 00:58
From: Nika Talaj
Odd you should ask. I was standing on my lawn yesterday deleting things from my very naturalistic, extremely covenant-controlled parcel, when in rezzed a disturbingly nubile ponygirl (human with extremely large realistic hooves), in full restraints and not much else.

So, no.
:)

Oh man, here we go, how often are we going to be having to "worry" about this or that or be the cop?
Tabliopa Underwood
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04-29-2009 02:58
From: Nika Talaj
Odd you should ask. I was standing on my lawn yesterday deleting things from my very naturalistic, extremely covenant-controlled parcel, when in rezzed a disturbingly nubile ponygirl (human with extremely large realistic hooves), in full restraints and not much else.

So, no.
:)


=)

Is lots odd and funny things that people do in SL and having the right attitude I think helps everyone.

I was messing about with stuff on my genteel PG parcel (my home before last) just down the road from a helpy place, half a sim away from a WA, and a sim over from a very popular adult garden when who should magically appear out of thin air but a well-endowed upstanding gentleman in all in his nekkid glory =)

Hi he said. Hi urself I reply. Hows ur day he asked. Fine and u? I reply. And he said he was having a fine day as well. I mention that the garden he probably looking for was 100m to his right and about 250m behind him. Oh no he said thats not my thing at all. Today he said is my naked day, Once a week I get naked and use my map and find lonely looking dots who may want some company, Some comforting even. Double-click on the map next to them and voila.

Hows that working out for you out I asked, and he reply sometimes great and other times not so good, I get shot at alot he said and he grin. What like now I said and proceeded to shoot the chit out of him until he was dead and gone. He IM me and said Yeah like that and we both laugh. I suggest maybe he would get shot a whole lot less if he check the sim rating by hovering his mouse over the sim before he Map TP and he say thanks ever so much he never knew that and he really needs to take some time to learn more about these kinds of things.

I said Ya that maybe be a good idea and you welcome =) We say bye and part on friendly terms and I never hear from him again. Maybe is because he dont want to get shot by me again or maybe is because he now far to busy bringing comfort to people in all the right places. I like to think is the second reason and I think is true as he was very polite and courteous. Quite charming really in a nekkid kinda way =)
Ian Nider
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04-29-2009 03:32
From: Tabliopa Underwood
=)

Is lots odd and funny things that people do in SL and having the right attitude I think helps everyone.

I was messing about with stuff on my genteel PG parcel (my home before last) just down the road from a helpy place, half a sim away from a WA, and a sim over from a very popular adult garden when who should magically appear out of thin air but a well-endowed upstanding gentleman in all in his nekkid glory =)

Hi he said. Hi urself I reply. Hows ur day he asked. Fine and u? I reply. And he said he was having a fine day as well. I mention that the garden he probably looking for was 100m to his right and about 250m behind him. Oh no he said thats not my thing at all. Today he said is my naked day, Once a week I get naked and use my map and find lonely looking dots who may want some company, Some comforting even. Double-click on the map next to them and voila.

Hows that working out for you out I asked, and he reply sometimes great and other times not so good, I get shot at alot he said and he grin. What like now I said and proceeded to shoot the chit out of him until he was dead and gone. He IM me and said Yeah like that and we both laugh. I suggest maybe he would get shot a whole lot less if he check the sim rating by hovering his mouse over the sim before he Map TP and he say thanks ever so much he never knew that and he really needs to take some time to learn more about these kinds of things.

I said Ya that maybe be a good idea and you welcome =) We say bye and part on friendly terms and I never hear from him again. Maybe is because he dont want to get shot by me again or maybe is because he now far to busy bringing comfort to people in all the right places. I like to think is the second reason and I think is true as he was very polite and courteous. Quite charming really in a nekkid kinda way =)


Totally agree!

I was rezzing slowly or wigging out somehow as I booted up and was naked but couldn't see it as I looked like the white cloud to myself. I couldn't get anything to work for a good 3 to 5 minutes. My neighbor (first time we ever met) was standing there to meet and greet etc, I apologized for it when he pointed it out, he was completely chilled out about it. Then when I was sorted we just hung out and talked about building.

it so easy could've been a shit storm, but wasn't.

It turned out I saw later, he has big patch of land that is a no nudity park.

Another directly beside me took off her trees and camp fire and put a bright pink house up. We ened up with me blowing more prims to make heaps of trees and comfort and her putting it in the sky.

People are often more than willing to care for each others sensitivities and tastes if given the chance to, I find.
Rika Watanabe
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04-29-2009 05:15
From: Ian Nider
People are often more than willing to care for each others sensitivities and tastes if given the chance to, I find.


Indeed, but if everyone was like that, there would be no reason for adult content rules to exist in the first place.

In fact, I find that there is no reason for them to exist at all, but now they do, and if you think nobody will exploit rules to grief just like they exploit all other means of griefing, I have a bridge to sell to you.
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04-29-2009 05:20
From: Belle Loll
Many of us have stores that just sell PG content. Happy Birthday & Rez Day party supplies, cakes, flowers, gifts, cards etc. There are garden centers, pre-fab stores..I can think of many content creators that do not sell adult items.

There is no chance that I can get moved to the Ursula (or whatever it's named).

So......are PG content creators/store owners to be ostrized now?


No, we just want to be able to look up what we desire without the added PG locations we do -not- want. Its no more ostracizing than whats going on with adult, or do you not support personal choice?
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Ian Nider
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04-29-2009 05:58
From: Rika Watanabe
Indeed, but if everyone was like that, there would be no reason for adult content rules to exist in the first place.

In fact, I find that there is no reason for them to exist at all, but now they do, and if you think nobody will exploit rules to grief just like they exploit all other means of griefing, I have a bridge to sell to you.


I agree on this too, you can try but it doesn't always work, and yeh, people are defensive and frightened now as just about everyone is feeling some kind of loss of liberty.
Boy Lane
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Implementation in viewer
04-29-2009 06:12
We need help with this :)

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/technical-help/28769-pg-protection-search-teleport.html
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Briana Dawson
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04-29-2009 06:19


Why are you attempting to move the discussion to another forum?

Many of us do not use that forum at all so will be left out from this discussion.

What was wrong with this venue????
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Boy Lane
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04-29-2009 07:18
From: Briana Dawson
Why are you attempting to move the discussion to another forum
This has nothing to do with the discussion here but technical implementation. And I prefer to discuss such things outside of a LL controlled / censored environment. No harm intended.
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Anya Ristow
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04-29-2009 08:27
From: Winter Ventura
Personally, I think this is the stupidest idea I have heard in a year.


It's not a serious request; it's part of a tantrum. LL hurt our feelings by marginalizing our kinky preferences, so now it's only fair that they marginalize everyone else, too. So, we're going to pout and demand attention until they either do this new (pointless) thing to prove they still love us, or until they change their mind and apologize to us.
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Boy Lane
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04-29-2009 08:36
Ok, ignore, posting work again.
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Newfie Pendragon
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04-29-2009 08:53
I want to be able to ban age-verified adults from my plot. Clearly any adult that feels the need to double-prove their adulthood is a danger to society. I only want adults that fall under the 18+ TOS rule!

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04-29-2009 09:00
From: Anya Ristow
So, we're going to pout and demand attention until they either do this new (pointless) thing to prove they still love us, or until they change their mind and apologize to us.
If you are going to behave like that you *must* be a minor ;)

Pep (AR in the post :p )
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Boy Lane
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04-29-2009 09:05
Findings:
1) There is already a feature to enable/disable search for PG in the latest 1.23 viewer code. This is in fact the only thing that makes sense. And it is contrary to what the Lindens posted in Jira. Misleading and false information that such feature can not be implemented in 1.23. However the PG selection can not be permanently disabled/grayed out like Mature or Adult.
2) Technical difficulties to connect and authenticate to a SL server during login make it a complex problem to verify your login location to be the same or the same rating as the one you logged off. Again that's a statement from the LL persons in Jira which is unlikely to be implemented or working. This remains a major issue and a showstopper as LL can not guarantee that one logs on in a non-PG area after a crash or server shutdown.
3) A check of ratings and compare areas before a TP and giving a warning is likely easy to be implemented. Need to have some closer look into the code for this.

In summary: LL staff provided questionable statements in Jira and can not be trusted.
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Nika Talaj
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04-29-2009 11:28
From: Newfie Pendragon
I want to be able to ban age-verified adults from my plot.
Newfie wins!

But, we knew that.
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Amity Slade
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04-29-2009 12:18
From: Boy Lane

There is already a feature to enable/disable search for PG in the latest 1.23 viewer code. This is in fact the only thing that makes sense. And it is contrary to what the Lindens posted in Jira. Misleading and false information that such feature can not be implemented in 1.23.


You forgot to add: "I call Shenanigans!"

Linden Lab keeps forgetting the first rule of lying. Do not lie about facts that can be verified.
Viciously Llewellyn
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04-29-2009 12:22
From: Newfie Pendragon
I want to be able to ban age-verified adults from my plot. Clearly any adult that feels the need to double-prove their adulthood is a danger to society. I only want adults that fall under the 18+ TOS rule!


You can actually do that right now. Have fun! ;-)
Whimsycallie Pegler
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04-29-2009 13:08
From: Anya Ristow
It's not a serious request; it's part of a tantrum. LL hurt our feelings by marginalizing our kinky preferences, so now it's only fair that they marginalize everyone else, too. So, we're going to pout and demand attention until they either do this new (pointless) thing to prove they still love us, or until they change their mind and apologize to us.


I think it is a serious request and a good idea. I always shop for skins in a mature sim, so that I can try the demo on nude. It would save me time if I could set the search to filter out PG places.

Geez... can people still be nude in mature places or not? I am already confused.
Amity Slade
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04-29-2009 13:11
From: Whimsycallie Pegler
I think it is a serious request and a good idea. I always shop for skins in a mature sim, so that I can try the demo on nude. It would save me time if I could set the search to filter out PG places.

Geez... can people still be nude in mature places or not? I am already confused.


According to the last revision of the policy I read, photorealistic nudity is only for adult areas. Other nudity can be in mature areas. So I guess that means that if you look like a nude cartoon or anime character, that's fine. Though you can't look like a child or minor. As long as it's an adult cartoon or anime character, that's mature.
Tarina Sewell
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04-29-2009 16:03
From: Belle Loll
Many of us have stores that just sell PG content. Happy Birthday & Rez Day party supplies, cakes, flowers, gifts, cards etc. There are garden centers, pre-fab stores..I can think of many content creators that do not sell adult items.

There is no chance that I can get moved to the Ursula (or whatever it's named).

So......are PG content creators/store owners to be ostrized now?



i am so freakin confused
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04-29-2009 17:12
From: Viciously Llewellyn
You can actually do that right now. Have fun! ;-)


Not on my land access choices... the two choices are Block residents who have not given payment info to Linden Lab and Block residents who are not age verified adults. They removed the choice to Block verified adults/accounts.
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04-29-2009 18:33
I want to block access to people who ban short people from their land, to people who whistle through their teeth while playing poker, and whose birthdays are on the 29th of February.
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Tabliopa Underwood
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04-29-2009 20:53
From: Anya Ristow
It's not a serious request; it's part of a tantrum. LL hurt our feelings by marginalizing our kinky preferences, so now it's only fair that they marginalize everyone else, too. So, we're going to pout and demand attention until they either do this new (pointless) thing to prove they still love us, or until they change their mind and apologize to us.
Search is a tool for us to use to find stuff and places we want. The more ways we can filter Search to do this easily and quickly can only be a good thing and I support any request for more ways to search. What peoples motives are, suspected or real, when searching is kinda irrelevant really I think, unimportant even except maybe to them.
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04-29-2009 21:16
From: milady Guillaume
Not on my land access choices... the two choices are Block residents who have not given payment info to Linden Lab and Block residents who are not age verified adults. They removed the choice to Block verified adults/accounts.


Think outside the box ... it can be done, as worded by the OP. ;-)
Emilly Orr
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Bad idea. The very *definition* of a BAD. IDEA.
04-29-2009 21:39
From: Boy Lane
Quoted from http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12977

"Please add the ability to view ONLY adult content, ONLY mature content, and Adult and Mature content. so we can view our rp, sims, the clubs, events, stores, roleplays, malls and other parcels that have only the content we want, and not have to feel forced to view "Disneyland" type content the way the Lindens want.
There are really allot of good reasons such a feature would be useful, some of which are marked in the comments section."

I completely support that, it is just so simple to implement a filtering mechanism for PG too as all the code is already in the viewer. And it would really help all of us not to possibly receive an AR (or worse) for incidentally TP'ing into a PG / teen area wearing an outfit (or worse again) that is not suitable.


You realize this is not only a huge distraction from the subject, but also, *if* the Lindens choose to implement this, all mixed-content businesses will die? Not lose money, not have to rework advertising, DIE AS BUSINESS CONCEPTS.

Here's the big problem: adult businesses support non-adult businesses (in RL and SL, amusingly enough). This may surprise people, but it's a true fact--adult bookstore on the corner, people in the neighborhood may not *like* it, but the lunch counters, the mini-marts, the motels and the surrounding businesses get a jump in business.

Same here--frock shops support brothels support prefab makers support skin shops support makers of prim bits--and a *lot* of these places are using the same parcel to do adult *and* PG (or PG/Mature) things.

This goes through, you're now left with a bifurcated database, and a whole bunch of content creators who have to now double-list for ads and maintain tier on two parcels if they *hope* to break even.

Many of these people? Will pick one, over two, and if they do, and they pick the wrong one for those businesses, they will stop making money.

I know people for whom SL *is* their primary income. You want to tell them how wonderful an idea this is for people who are seeing their (RL, REAL world, ONLY) ability to pay rent disappear?

Em
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