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Ability to Filter out PG rated content

Boy Lane
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04-28-2009 08:59
Quoted from http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12977

"Please add the ability to view ONLY adult content, ONLY mature content, and Adult and Mature content. so we can view our rp, sims, the clubs, events, stores, roleplays, malls and other parcels that have only the content we want, and not have to feel forced to view "Disneyland" type content the way the Lindens want.
There are really allot of good reasons such a feature would be useful, some of which are marked in the comments section."

I completely support that, it is just so simple to implement a filtering mechanism for PG too as all the code is already in the viewer. And it would really help all of us not to possibly receive an AR (or worse) for incidentally TP'ing into a PG / teen area wearing an outfit (or worse again) that is not suitable.

Please vote for that issue!
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04-28-2009 09:03
From: Boy Lane
Quoted from http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12977

"Please add the ability to view ONLY adult content, ONLY mature content, and Adult and Mature content. so we can view our rp, sims, the clubs, events, stores, roleplays, malls and other parcels that have only the content we want, and not have to feel forced to view "Disneyland" type content the way the Lindens want.
There are really allot of good reasons such a feature would be useful, some of which are marked in the comments section."

I completely support that, it is just so simple to implement a filtering mechanism for PG too as all the code is already in the viewer. And it would really help all of us not to possibly receive an AR (or worse) for incidentally TP'ing into a PG / teen area wearing an outfit (or worse again) that is not suitable.

Please vote for that issue!
Boy


Can someone add the abilty to filter out Corporate AdSpam once that starts appearing?
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Boy Lane
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04-28-2009 09:42
From: Brenda Connolly
Can someone add the abilty to filter out Corproate AdSpam once that starts appearing?
That means adding a 4th checkbox and some code that's not really related to this ;).

For the PG/Mature/Adult filtering all is there, what is still needed are some simple selection boxes.

Perhaps LL would also be able to add another floater where each one can select themselves as PG/Mature or Adult. I'm happily putting myself into the Adult category and I don't want to have any contact with an eventually merged Teen grid member nor anyone PG.

Please put that code in place to avoid these pending confrontations. Thanks!
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Tarina Sewell
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04-28-2009 09:45
What will keep the teens from checking those boxes? I really dont understand how filtering words will help because they can just check those boxes!
Boy Lane
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04-28-2009 09:49
From: Tarina Sewell
What will keep the teens from checking those boxes? I really dont understand how filtering words will help because they can just check those boxes!
If it helps to filter out adult it certainly does it the other way around :).

I want to be sure not to tp into a PG rated area in an unsuitable outfit and likely be punished for it. A non-PG filter is a legitimate request.
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Amity Slade
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04-28-2009 09:56
Giving searchers more options improves the quality of search. When I do a search, I want to try to get the results that I wanted to see. I can only do that if I have choices as to how I limit and order the search.

However, I know Linden Lab doesn't care about making Search more useful for me. I'm sure Linden Lab's main consideration would be about how a PG checkbox in Search affects the price of PG land. If everyone is forced to see PG results every time they search, PG land becomes more valuable.
Boy Lane
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04-28-2009 10:02
Please vote for a PG filter:
http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12977
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04-28-2009 10:06
This should really be done as it falls in line with the original B.S. that LL gave for their Adult Content changes, i.e. making it easier for you to find the content you want. So if I search for "pussy", I don't want to be directed to a build with cat pictures.

Who are we kidding though.... this was never about giving people better control of their online experience, it was simply about pushing the "dirty laundry" to the back of the closet.
Boy Lane
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04-28-2009 10:27
From: Vance Adder
...making it easier for you to find the content you want. So if I search for "pussy", I don't want to be directed to a build with cat pictures.
Exactly, and as the search capabilities have or are been adjusted in this regard there is no excuse not to provide these filtering options.
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Lindal Kidd
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04-28-2009 11:40
I would vote for it, because it makes sense.

Unfortunately, I am afraid LL would just use my vote as evidence that I support THEIR draconian Adult Content policy.

So sorry, Boy. :(
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Lindal Kidd
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04-28-2009 11:44
Voted. Thank you for that, Boy.
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Duncan Delicioso
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04-28-2009 11:45
Voted for it. Sounds like a good idea.
Rika Watanabe
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04-28-2009 11:46
From: Lindal Kidd
Unfortunately, I am afraid LL would just use my vote as evidence that I support THEIR draconian Adult Content policy.


Unfortunately, Lindal, any method of inaction short of quitting SL altogether effectively supports not only that draconian policy but all other idiotic policies on file, either economically or through silence.

If you actually dislike that policy, 'no action' is not an action you can take.
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Belle Loll
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04-28-2009 12:13
From: Boy Lane
Quoted from http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12977

"Please add the ability to view ONLY adult content, ONLY mature content, and Adult and Mature content. so we can view our rp, sims, the clubs, events, stores, roleplays, malls and other parcels that have only the content we want, and not have to feel forced to view "Disneyland" type content the way the Lindens want.
There are really allot of good reasons such a feature would be useful, some of which are marked in the comments section."

I completely support that, it is just so simple to implement a filtering mechanism for PG too as all the code is already in the viewer. And it would really help all of us not to possibly receive an AR (or worse) for incidentally TP'ing into a PG / teen area wearing an outfit (or worse again) that is not suitable.

Please vote for that issue!
Boy


Many of us have stores that just sell PG content. Happy Birthday & Rez Day party supplies, cakes, flowers, gifts, cards etc. There are garden centers, pre-fab stores..I can think of many content creators that do not sell adult items.

There is no chance that I can get moved to the Ursula (or whatever it's named).

So......are PG content creators/store owners to be ostrized now?
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04-28-2009 12:19
I voted. Now wondering what will happen.
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04-28-2009 12:20
From: Belle Loll
Many of us have stores that just sell PG content. Happy Birthday & Rez Day party supplies, cakes, flowers, gifts, cards etc. There are garden centers, pre-fab stores..I can think of many content creators that do not sell adult items.

There is no chance that I can get moved to the Ursula (or whatever it's named).

So......are PG content creators/store owners to be ostrized now?



Well if they are not looking for PG content, then they wouldn't be shopping at your place anyway when it shows up in search.


This isn't about ostracizing PG it's about putting it on a filter for those that are looking for something that is mature or adult oriented.

It's like someone typing in hoe and not wanting to find farm implements... (and I do know some that didn't realize the proper spelling, thank you hooked on phonics )
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Lazink Maeterlinck
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04-28-2009 12:37
The main problem, well one of the main problems with the search, is that no one monitors it. People game the search all the time so they will show up. Half the problems would be solved if people actually put what they sell/have/provide on the search, and NOT try to game it so people just show up.
Briana Dawson
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04-28-2009 12:38
From: Belle Loll


So......are PG content creators/store owners to be ostrized now?

lolwut?

PG search is on by default.

*I* would turn it off on my end for my own search results.
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Sasara Klaar
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04-28-2009 13:10
From: Belle Loll
Many of us have stores that just sell PG content. Happy Birthday & Rez Day party supplies, cakes, flowers, gifts, cards etc. There are garden centers, pre-fab stores..I can think of many content creators that do not sell adult items.

There is no chance that I can get moved to the Ursula (or whatever it's named).

So......are PG content creators/store owners to be ostrized now?



That sounds suspiciously like you are saying that the current actions are ostracizing (check out that spelling, eh?) someone other than "PG content creators/store owners", *AND* that doing so is OK with you. And by extension, that one group is inherently better and entitled to better treatment than another.

Your use of the word "us" invites us to surmise that you are a member of this more important and more valuable group, and that you are happy with exclusivity and elitism so long as *your* group isn't targeted or negatively impacted in any way.

Now, I always give the benefit of the doubt, so I am going to assume that you didn't mean it that way. But you might want to reconsider your choice of words. Have a nice day. :)
Belle Loll
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04-28-2009 13:37
From: Sasara Klaar
That sounds suspiciously like you are saying that the current actions are ostracizing (check out that spelling, eh?) someone other than "PG content creators/store owners", *AND* that doing so is OK with you. And by extension, that one group is inherently better and entitled to better treatment than another.

Your use of the word "us" invites us to surmise that you are a member of this more important and more valuable group, and that you are happy with exclusivity and elitism so long as *your* group isn't targeted or negatively impacted in any way.

Now, I always give the benefit of the doubt, so I am going to assume that you didn't mean it that way. But you might want to reconsider your choice of words. Have a nice day. :)



HUH???

All Im saying is (speaking for myself)..my land value is going to zero if I cannot get moved to the new land...which I know is impossible with PG items. So now I have a PG store on worthless PG land...and now adults will filter my store items out of their search.

I have no idea what you are trying to state above.... but it gave me that sick feeling in my stomach when someone wants to put words in your mouth and cause trouble where there is none.. I should not have posted my thoughts and I'm sorry if I offended you ....I truly did not mean to.
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04-28-2009 13:51
From: Belle Loll
HUH???

All Im saying is (speaking for myself)..my land value is going to zero if I cannot get moved to the new land...which I know is impossible with PG items. So now I have a PG store on worthless PG land...and now adults will filter my store items out of their search.

I have no idea what you are trying to state above.... but it gave me that sick feeling in my stomach when someone wants to put words in your mouth and cause trouble where there is none.. I should not have posted my thoughts and I'm sorry if I offended you ....I truly did not mean to.


If someone is looking for horse stables and doesn't want to look for pony play style ones they turn on the filter to not show mature content. Now they want a reasonable option for those looking for the later to be able to turn off pg content because they don't want to see the riding club stables...

How is that ostracizing you or any other content creator/owner? If anything it puts everyone back on an even footing, vs the adult and mature content being filtered out by default...
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Amity Slade
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04-28-2009 14:05
From: Belle Loll
Many of us have stores that just sell PG content. Happy Birthday & Rez Day party supplies, cakes, flowers, gifts, cards etc. There are garden centers, pre-fab stores..I can think of many content creators that do not sell adult items.

There is no chance that I can get moved to the Ursula (or whatever it's named).

So......are PG content creators/store owners to be ostrized now?


That someone may not be interested in your content does not mean that you are being ostracized.

If there were a PG filter, persons would filter out PG content when they were not looking for PG content.

In your case, there would be no reason for any searcher to filter out PG content if looking for innocent party supplies.

Now, someone who is interested in adult-themed supplies (naked cakes, naked cards, whatever) would filter out PG. Which is good, because if they were looking for non-PG items, and wound up at a PG store, that would be wasting their time and frustrating their search.

It works both ways. Someone interested only in innocent party supplies should be able to filter out "adult" party supplies. Because if they were not interested in adult supplies, they would be wasting their time in a store that sold predominantly adult supplies.

It is the consumer who has the right to decide what products they will buy with their own money. It is not the storekeeper's right to compel a customer to come to the store.

It should not hurt sales at your business. It's unlikely that someone searching for the adult party items are going to change their minds and go clean if they wind up at your store by mistake.

It may hurt your Traffic. Though if Traffic gained through bots or camping is illegitimate, then so to is traffic gained through mistake. It may hurt the value of your land, but SL land has never been in any way any sort of a stable investment.

Edit: In fact, every single enchancement to the Search engine that makes it easier to use for the searchers will help everyone's businesses. If it is too hard for someone to find the products the person wants, that person probably isn't just going to try harder to find them, that person may just give up on ever finding them and choose not to partcipate in the SL "economy" at all. Make it easier for consumers to find what they want, then they will be more enthusiastic about shopping, and do more of it. When consumers are happy, businesses benefit.
Belle Loll
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04-28-2009 14:35
Thank you MortVent & Amity for the much clearer picture. I have never understood the SL search but I at least understand a little clearer what the OP meant now.

As for the price of land...I got burnt by the openspace crisis also... so I don't have a lot of trust in anything LL does anymore concerning land. And I'm not worried about my Island so much with this new change going in. But I just paid a fortune for some mainland and once again I am watching money go down the drain.

I knew it was going to happen in the back of my head when this adult stuff was first announced, but there is just so much I do not understand about it. And I read the forums a lot. I wonder what is going to happen when those that do not even realize what is happening now ....finally learn about it?
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Nika Talaj
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04-28-2009 15:22
Y'know, Boy, I thought at first you were joking. After all, "evil" people very often DO have good senses of humor :)

You touch on a serious issue, though - I think the real problem for "Adult" players is not that they will see PG content on a search, but that they will then teleport to a PG zone in order to see/buy that content, and some hypersensitive person (or *gasp* teen, if LL merges the grids) will then AR them.

In fact, if LL merges the grids, some folks who are not particularly Adult may want to always avoid PG areas, just to avoid fraudulent allegations of sexual harassment by nasty teens. I'm not ordinarily paranoid, but I could really see the FBI demanding records of all such ARs at some future date.

I would be very in favor of a Jira that specifically allowed residents to set a flag so that, when they are dressed up for their Best in Bondage party, they can prevent themselves from blundering into a PG sim by mistake. I think that would save folks a lot of trouble.
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Briana Dawson
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04-28-2009 16:09
Avatars need a flag we can set "PG/Adult", so that we do not EVER end up in a PG sim because a region had problems on log in.

I do end up in PG regions naked and cuffed and it pisses me off to no end. It would be great if on log in when a region fails to accept you (for whatever reason), you get moved immediately to a properly rated region according to your avatar preference flag.

Jira Voted.
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