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06-18-2008 12:31
From: Cristalle Karami
Strife would "stealth lock" sometimes precisely so as to not give the thread any more publicity. I think we have our answer.

QFT. That thread was done several days earlier. I have the honor of being the next to last poster in it.
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06-18-2008 12:36
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It was her thread in which she whined, cried, threatened and insulted nearly every poster. If you want some real fun, head to the Bear infohub. But have voice turned on. she only does her griefing in voice so there will be no written log.


That explains a lot. hehheh ...


... but I'll pass on the infohub. As a political fundraiser, I get enough grief via voice during working hours. :rolleyes:
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06-18-2008 13:30
From: Cristalle Karami
Strife would "stealth lock" sometimes precisely so as to not give the thread any more publicity. I think we have our answer.
You certainly do not have to prove this - but I personally have never seem Strife lock a thread without indicatinhe lcked it and making some attempt to explain why.

I, for one, have always seen the resident volunteer mods cite the reason why they locked a thread (by quotng TOS). I do not feel that the new trend is that Linden staff do not have to communicate concerning locked threads. If this is the new status quo its going to be a long summer.
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06-18-2008 13:34
Is there a rule in the forum guidelines that says we are not supposed to talk about locked threads?

If so, where is that rule because if it was just somebody saying "Don't talk about locked threads" that is hardly a rule. Rules must be stated in the forum guidelines or a TOS to have teeth.

This does appear in the guidelines for the mods though:

From: someone
Any editing or locking of threads will be accompanied by an explanation, to make our moderation decisions as transparent to Residents as possible.


From: someone
Locking threads with explanation in extreme cases (e.g. although posts have been edited and the parties asked to cease, the attacks don’t stop. There’s no obvious constructive discussion going on).



And under "Reposting"

From: someone
If a moderator removes your post, do not repost it elsewhere. Do not repost threads that have been locked or deleted and do not repost content that has been edited or deleted by a moderator. Furthermore, please do not post a "why did my post get removed" post. Send any further discussion regarding post removals to [email]abuse@lindenlab.com[/email].


So even though my personal opinion is that the thread was due for a lock, I see nothing in the rules that says I can't tell Amara that the thread in question was the "Mainland is full, who is to blame" one and was at this link: /327/98/257807/1.html

If there is a stated rule in the guidelines I missed that says I am wrong to do that, my apologies and please show it to me.
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06-18-2008 13:34
The difference is that Strife would normally go back and comment as to why it was locked, so it would avoid the bump. That didn't happen here, but the rationale is pretty plain to me why it was locked.
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06-18-2008 13:38
From: Ann Launay
There have been stealth locks before. There has even been discussion about them. Where was the OP then?


Have I coined "Sthlock" ?
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06-18-2008 13:52
From: Macphisto Angelus
So even though my personal opinion is that the thread was due for a lock, I see nothing in the rules that says I can't tell Amara that the thread in question was the "Mainland is full, who is to blame" one and was at this link: /327/98/257807/1.html

If there is a stated rule in the guidelines I missed that says I am wrong to do that, my apologies and please show it to me.


LOL, Mac. I was just about to send the link myself. :D
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06-18-2008 13:56
From: Maureen Boccaccio
LOL, Mac. I was just about to send the link myself. :D


lol /agreed.

I re-read the guidelines and still don't see anything that says you can't reference it. I would never cut and paste the OP from one or something like that, but a link or a mention in a situation like this seems perfectly in the guidelines.

Who said they couldn't be talked about? And did they read the guidelines before they did or was it just a "because I said so" kinda thing? :)
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Amity Slade
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06-18-2008 14:46
These forums are moderated? I thought they had been unmoderated since Strife stopped moderating.

Frankly, these forums could use some even-handed moderation. Preferrably, in a clear, transparent way as Strife did, rather than a "stealthy," arbitrary way.
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06-18-2008 14:48
Thanks guys- Damien informed me as well- I guess I didn't care about it then either :) - now the hemophiliacs- those I will fight over...
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06-18-2008 14:53
From: Amity Slade
These forums are moderated? I thought they had been unmoderated since Strife stopped moderating.

Frankly, these forums could use some even-handed moderation. Preferrably, in a clear, transparent way as Strife did, rather than a "stealthy," arbitrary way.


Millie still does some resmodding. I thought they did away with that program but she still seems to be around.

Katt does mod some posts (and always notes why) and she posted in a couple threads about the content "theft" that she was going to find out what happened and report back.. and she did.

I did see Cybin hanging around last weekend some. He had "resmod?" as his title so I am not sure if he is still doing it or not.

The forum is lightly moderated at this point.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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06-18-2008 15:15
um where does it say we are not supposed to discuss locked threads?

I must have missed that one.
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06-18-2008 15:16
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
um where does it say we are not supposed to discuss locked threads?

I must have missed that one.


I am still waiting for that answer myself. :D
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06-18-2008 15:18
well. let's wait together shall we?
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06-18-2008 15:19
Sounds good!

Meet you at Bear infohub? :D
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06-18-2008 15:20
Hrm. Where's the thread someone thinks we're not allowed to talk about?
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06-18-2008 15:21
From: Macphisto Angelus
Sounds good!

Meet you at Bear infohub? :D


never heard of it ;)
how about meet at the cartel
I will wear my fluffy tail

I think it is the mainland sim full who is to blame shows on page 42 for me

*meh*
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06-18-2008 15:30
Uhm- by perpetuating this insanity- are we not contributing to the problem/
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06-18-2008 15:32
From: Amaranthim Talon
Uhm- by perpetuating this insanity- are we not contributing to the problem/



I was unaware that there is/was a problem to contribute to...

*goes back to peaceful oblivion*
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06-18-2008 15:36
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Uhm- by perpetuating this insanity- are we not contributing to the problem/


I see no problems. :)

The discussion is still about what the OP asked. The bear infohub joke was my hope to give Lias a smile. :D

And I would really like the answer to my questions so I am hoping Katt sees this and can respond with an official response. I would not want to reference something in the future that can get me in trouble.
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06-18-2008 15:37
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Hrm. Where's the thread someone thinks we're not allowed to talk about?


Go about a page back and look for my name. I referenced it.
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06-18-2008 15:38
From: Macphisto Angelus
I see no problems. :)

The discussion is still about what the OP asked. The bear infohub joke was my hope to give Lias a smile. :D

And I would really like the answer to my questions so I am hoping Katt sees this and can respond with an official response. I would not want to reference something in the future that can get me in trouble.


Because, of course, you are not a troublemaker. at all. :p
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06-18-2008 15:39
my tongue in cheek reply of never heard of it, was also a joke

as was the meet me at the cartel, as I am currently at my SL workplace and not leaving and not in bunny tail attire (did the pic then went to work)
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06-18-2008 15:53
From: Macphisto Angelus
Is there a rule in the forum guidelines that says we are not supposed to talk about locked threads?

If so, where is that rule because if it was just somebody saying "Don't talk about locked threads" that is hardly a rule. Rules must be stated in the forum guidelines or a TOS to have teeth.

This does appear in the guidelines for the mods though:

If there is a stated rule in the guidelines I missed that says I am wrong to do that, my apologies and please show it to me.
I found this conversation about locked threads and alternates to the knee-jerk reaction of the resmods /274/93/225896/1.html. Butthis was back when resmods actually spoke to us.

Even a forum Cartel thread was locked but the resmod was smart enough to post a reason why he locked it - or suffer through cartel members feeling persecuted and wondering why. /327/3a/224375/6.html#post1769034.
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06-18-2008 16:03
From: Lias Leandros
I found this conversation about locked threads and alternates to the knee-jerk reaction of the resmods /274/93/225896/1.html. Butthis was back when resmods actually spoke to us.

Even a forum Cartel thread was locked but the resmod was smart enough to post a reason why he locked it - or suffer through cartel members feeling persecuted and wondering why. /327/3a/224375/6.html#post1769034/327/3a/224375/6.html#post1769034.


Thanks Lias. :)

So still no official word that you cannot reference locked threads.

All we know for sure is that no threads should be locked without explanation from the locker as is listed in the guidelines.

I think everything so far in this thread is well within the forum guidelines then. :)
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