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Why We Hate Adfarms--A Gallery

Egon Rothschild
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02-10-2008 18:16
From: Robot Foxley
Go to the top of the screen, find Quick Links, scroll to Edit Options, go to the bottom of this page where it says Miscellaneous Options



Select Standard Editor, Extra Formatting Options..save changes...

Now when you go to make a post or quote someone, you will have an extra bar of formatting tools



If you click the yellow button with the mountains on it, a dialog box will appear asking you to paste in the URL of an image which it will display as an image on the forums.

For future references the code to wrap an image in is [IMG ] URL Here [/ IMG]

*with no spaces*


thanks robot ...


edit .. i guess that didn't work either ... *sigh*
edit2 ... got it .. thanks. now let me try the "tinypic" way ...

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Ciaran Laval
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02-10-2008 18:22
From: Egon Rothschild
thanks robot ...


edit .. i guess that didn't work either ... *sigh*


Try putting the http:// bit in at the front:

Lana Tomba
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Join date: 5 Aug 2004
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02-10-2008 18:38
i've been following this post for a while and really haven't posted anything cause i really didn't think I had anything to contribute...watching it progress I've been struck with the idea that ya know..in a virtual world we are being faced with same social obstacles/oppurtunities as in RL.

Everyones right to have a gun..imposing a 7 day background check for a weapon..enforcing it.loops holes in that law for gun shows..noise pollution..zoning to tame that.. Smoking in public areas becoming less and less acceptable and now smoking in private residential areas being halted as well. (of course some of these things we don't see in SL and they don't apply but.. the basic issue of freedom and liberty applies)

Reading the above post about human interaction and all made me sortve see this in that light. Ive always believed i had every right to my liberty...as long as that exsertion of liberty did not impose or hinder someone elses liberty and freedom. We have freedom of speech but can't walk into a theatre and scream "fire" (if theres not in fact a fire).

Maybe SL needs a constitution. I mean every resident who pays for land and that :"dream" of owning their own personal piece of virtual land should have the inalieable right to not have to be surrounded by blinking porno signs..or any sign for that matter. Right? I don't understand why LL doesnt zone for this type of thing.

It used to be that a human being could rely ( not totally) on mutual respect and etiquette but that all seems to be thrown out the window.Now the law of the land seems to be "Well if I can..then I will" I think leaving it in the hands of the residents has proven not to work.

~Lana Tomba
Colette Meiji
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02-10-2008 18:53
From: Lana Tomba

It used to be that a human being could rely ( not totally) on mutual respect and etiquette but that all seems to be thrown out the window.Now the law of the land seems to be "Well if I can..then I will" I think leaving it in the hands of the residents has proven not to work.

~Lana Tomba


Great point.

In SL it seems almost that

"If they can" not only they will, but they will tell you they are justified unless the activity gets banned.

Like somehow only LL's enforced rules are the ethical compass of virtual society.
Qie Niangao
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02-10-2008 19:13
These threads are getting a little out of control in length and breadth, so I tried to split off one of the sub-topics here and put it in a new thread in Feature Suggestions, at /13/71/240418/1.html, with the title "Revise ownership provisions for 16sq.m. parcels." The first post tries to list the non-adfarm uses of 16sq.m. parcels. In case it's of any use or interest.
2k Suisei
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02-10-2008 19:13
From: Cocoanut Koala

Where there are people, there must be authority and law, and law must be upheld by people. Unless you know of some place where this hasn't been true, throughout the entirity of human history?

coco



There are many online worlds were people don't need to be managed by a central authority. There are worlds that contain some of the most annoying teenagers on the planet and yet they don't need a babysitter to watch over them.
Cocoanut Koala
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02-10-2008 19:15
Tell me what they are, 2k?

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2k Suisei
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02-10-2008 19:19
From: Cocoanut Koala
Tell me what they are, 2k?

coco


Unreal Tournament
Battlefield 2
Checkers Online (Don't laugh!)


I could go on...
Robot Foxley
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02-10-2008 19:20
The problem is that the link you are providing does not end in JPEG, JPG, BMP, GIF etc. If you go to the link you are posting www.flickr.com/photos/42166057@N00/2215536216 the page has both text AND and image on it. Right click on the image on this page and select View Image. This will take you to this link http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/2215536216_7f115d24d2.jpg?v=0 which I had to chop the ?v=0 off of and wrap in [IMG ][/IMG ]'s to make it appear...



P.S. To use pics from your PC, first upload them at http://www.tinypic.com and paste the URL here with the code.
Colette Meiji
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02-10-2008 19:37
From: 2k Suisei
Unreal Tournament
Battlefield 2
Checkers Online (Don't laugh!)


I could go on...


ROFL

:rolleyes:
Bradley Bracken
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02-10-2008 20:16
From: Egon Rothschild
thanks robot ...


edit .. i guess that didn't work either ... *sigh*


Egon,

I was having the exact same problem you are having and was frustrated about it. Someone finally had to give me step by step instructions. May not be the easiest or only way, but it works for me, and since you use flickr, here it goes:

1. After you post your picture in Flickr, click on that picture.

2. On the right hand side under "Additional Information" you'll see a link for "different sizes". Click that.

3. Move down where it says to grab the photos URL and copy the URL from the box.

4. In your post here click on the box that looks like the moon and the mountains, it will give you this: [img]5. Paste the URL you grabbed from Flickr

6. Click the mountain/moon image and you should be good to go.

I would think you could grab the URL from the address bar but that never seems to work for me, that's why I always go through steps 1 - 3.

Hope that helps.
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Cherry Czervik
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02-11-2008 01:24
Rubbish in the air mainly blotted out now. Cost in prims (without cheating or using things which blocked a natural sky completely = 823. 823 prims of trees and a couple of Inkwelle screens. 823!!!!!

My neighbours, as you can imagine, on this spot are absolutely delighted. Instead of a vista of horror on all sides they now have at least partially a lush and verdant view.

823! And the worst of it is, the guy I bought this land from needed to tier down fast. Why was his tier high? Cos he bought up all the bits of land to clear that sim of adcutters only to have other people sell it on. Yes I could have told him that - in fact I did - but in his shiny-bright newness he simply didn't believe that people were so uncaring of others.

You should see the amount of adverts going up since I bought that land though. I think they think I'll be prim hungry soon. Not so, suckers! I still have 1200 left and mainly the decor etc will be the trees anyway so stick that in your pipe and smoke it!!!!!

Grrrr. Should be against the ToS.
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Egon Rothschild
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02-11-2008 04:47
From: Robot Foxley
The problem is that the link you are providing does not end in JPEG, JPG, BMP, GIF etc. If you go to the link you are posting www.flickr.com/photos/42166057@N00/2215536216 the page has both text AND and image on it. Right click on the image on this page and select View Image. This will take you to this link http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/2215536216_7f115d24d2.jpg?v=0 which I had to chop the ?v=0 off of and wrap in [IMG ][/IMG ]'s to make it appear...



P.S. To use pics from your PC, first upload them at http://www.tinypic.com and paste the URL here with the code.


thanks robot. i got it to work both ways. tho the "tinypic" turned out to be not-so-tiny. hehe.

i always wondered how ppl uploaded pictures here.
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Cherry Czervik
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02-11-2008 06:01
From: 2k Suisei
haha

But what do you want to ban? plots designed solely for advertizing or just plain ugly builds?

How would people feel about well built Ad farms?.


For me it's not about ugly. There's plenty of fugly around.

It's about the plot being for sale, at prices which should attract RICO attention (yes, hyperbole was intended, with irony).

A lot of "fugly" disappears with a short draw rate but visual mute would do the trick completely AND probably kill off adfarmers in a trice.

Empower us!
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Hypatia Callisto
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02-11-2008 06:36
From: Nina Stepford
to claim that adfarms are little more than 'ugly builds' is disingenuous. umnik isnt renowned for ugly builds, hes infamous for adfarms hey.
and the parcel muting thing is a problem for many reasons, one being:
people already complain that people can cam into their homes. you are suggesting we should actually be able to set their homes as invisible when viewed from your land. forget void parcels then, this is the polar opposite effect.
so no longer will you be poseball hopping in your home, you will be doing it out in the open in plain sight. not because YOU want to, but because I want you to.


This can be solved with my suggestion way way back (and I have commented on a Jira as such) to tie object muting to identity verification - and allow us to mute an object individually rather than an entire parcel.

Not just by you the nonowner... but also by the person who owns the object itself (and it should transcend if its no mod or not). What I suggest is to allow for an "adult tag" for objects, rather than whole parcels (and their ugly ban lines). This would allow for continuity, and more granular filtering of adult content. Something I have now thought of due to your comment, would be if someone gets on the object that is set invisible, it will also cause the avatars sitting on it to be invisible (as they are now part of the invisible object)

Therefore, you can see their build, but not the people having a good time inside :) No matter what you do with the cam.
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foehn Breed
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02-11-2008 07:30
I took some pics of ad farm nearby, but it's all more of the same.
One thing, neighbor put up mega prim covering part of ad farm, problem is,
it's now encroaching tilted in over my back lot, like massively.
The ad farm alley is along their border, they don't have the advantage to hide ad farm from w/i. But this is just going to drive the ad farms higher up! in this case, deff into a lot more ppls views *ahem* like! me!
Ida see ad farms as much as they do from my point of views and sure I hate them,
don't see the point of ad farm alleys and have felt compelled to such tactics,
but hey ppls, let's be careful out there! and not add to the crapola! :(
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Broccoli Curry
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02-11-2008 07:35
From: foehn Breed
I took some pics of ad farm nearby, but it's all more of the same.
One thing, neighbor put up mega prim covering part of ad farm, problem is,
it's now encroaching tilted in over my back lot, like massively.


Anything encroaching on your land is reportable. I'd drop them a message and alert them to the fact they're infringing on your land ... and hopefully they'll be good neighbours and do the right thing. Chances are they didn't even know they were over your border (often people don't even CTRL SHIFT ALT P to look at borders).
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Stylee Streeter
I am not an adfarmer ok!!
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02-11-2008 07:58
LOL GIVE IT UP GUYS

ads are here to stay. so change the record lol
Jeska Linden
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02-11-2008 09:38
Hey everyone - I've removed some of the non-PG images posted to this thread. As a reminder, per our Community Standards (http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php)

From: someone
"All areas of Second Life, including the www.secondlife.com website and the Second Life Forums, adhere to the same Community Standards. Locations within Second Life are noted as Safe or Unsafe and rated Mature (M) or non-Mature (PG), and behavior must conform to the local ratings. Any unrated area of Second Life or the Second Life website should be considered non-Mature (PG)."

If you find something inworld that you believe violates the local standards of the region, you should use the Abuse Reporting tool to report it. Instructions on how to do so are available in the Knowledge Base:
https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=3989
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Marianne McCann
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02-11-2008 11:00
/me raises eyebrow
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Carl Metropolitan
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02-11-2008 11:30
From: Jeska Linden
Hey everyone - I've removed some of the non-PG images posted to this thread.


If these images--images that are displayed hundreds and hundreds of time throughout the Second Life mainland and visible in all sorts of regions--must be removed from the forums, can we take it that Linden Lab will be removing them from the world as well?
2k Suisei
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02-11-2008 11:39
From: Carl Metropolitan
If these images--images that are displayed hundreds and hundreds of time throughout the Second Life mainland and visible in all sorts of regions--must be removed from the forums, can we take it that Linden Lab will be removing them from the world as well?


Sure. If they're in a PG area and people report them. Hasn't this always been the case?
Broccoli Curry
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02-11-2008 11:48
From: 2k Suisei
Sure. If they're in a PG area and people report them. Hasn't this always been the case?


Actually, I thought that anything "publicly visible" - even in M rated areas - should be "PG" in nature.

So *any* sex-related advertisments should be reported as in violation of the CS, regardless of their location?

Perhaps, as porn/escorts/sex is one of the most advertised items in-world, this is a way to make inroads into getting ad farms removed?
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Bradley Bracken
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02-11-2008 11:50
From: Broccoli Curry
Actually, I thought that anything "publicly visible" - even in M rated areas - should be "PG" in nature.

So *any* sex-related advertisments should be reported as in violation of the CS, regardless of their location?


Yes, I'll have to double check, but I'm almost certain that I've read that it should not even be visible from a PG sim, meaning displayed publicly. If that's the case then I say we should all begin AR'ing like crazy. I'm game.
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Cocoanut Koala
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02-11-2008 11:51
Not precisely, 2k.

You can get vulgar and explicit images removed from inside SL even if they are on a mature sim.

Mature sim doesn't mean it's okay to post explicit images where anyone can see them, much less on billboards or rotating 10x10 cubes.

So AR the heck out of these things when you find them, even if they are on mature land.

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