"If I Can Make It Here..."

UGH!!

It's a full-time job scouring my postings for sexual double-entendres with you around!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she only claimed to have a million dollars in SL assets (which might be worth a hellz of a lot less now), and making 6 figures a year in cash.

Could be. I THOUGHT I recalled that it was a million in RL, but I may be misremembering.

In any case, a success story by any measure.

I'm still unconvinced that you don't do this on purpose!!!

It was purposefully obfuscated, as I recall.

I think men in SL have the upper hand - they are unscrupulous and they twist us girls round their little fingers. Just like in RL.

No, I don't! But I've NEVER met someone as adept at the art as you, so I don't need to, do I?

At the time it was written up in the magazines, she had amassed enough SL assets and money such that if she could have cashed it all out, it would have been worth a million at the exchange rate at that time.

When I started in SL, I had a "male" alt that sold some of my items and services, and a female main avatar that sold other things. Very similar types of things, and of course the same quality, since I made all of it.

The business efforts of the female avatar was at least 10x as profitable as the business efforts of the male avatar. After a few months I stopped bothering to merchandise anything with my male alt, and did all my selling and services with my main, female account.

Does this include women who are really men?
I know a successful woman who portrays a male in SL. Where does she fall in this poll?
Or he? And what of the asexual furry?
Or are we to over generalize and assume RL standards? If so then lets drag in all the baggage that comes with RL gender bias.
Where’s the pie?

/me checks his little finger

That is not baggage, that is good forum debate fodder (or good fodder for trolling anyway).




Can you even believe Jig forgot the PIE option?

High praise indeed... Imagine the other arts at which I am adept

She really missed the boat on that one!!! ROFLMAO

I’m just pointing out that there is gender bias in the real world that should have no place in Second Life. Measuring success based on gender is tricky enough in RL but laughable in SL.
But carry on please.

Agreed that it is always problematic.

But I think it IS useful to consider the relative success, or even perhaps just the perception of success, of male and female AVATARS in SL, precisely because we DON'T know the real gender of those behind them. In other words, we can at least somewhat discount the supposed impact of RL gender traits ("men are more logical and better with money," "women are better at sales because they are empathetic," etc.) because we know that many of the "logical" males out there are really women, and many of the "empathetic" female avatars really men. This means that we can focus more upon the way in which the PERCEPTION of gender impacts upon "success," rather than messing about quite so much with the highly questionable stereotypes that often inform this kind of debate.

This would only be a perfect experiment, of course, if we could ascertain that 50% of female avatars were run by men, and 50% of male avatars run by women (which is, in any case, highly unlikely), but it still provides an interesting insight into cultural attitudes towards the genders.

Hm.

I'm considered successful by some standards but that success largely consists of running around doing exactly what the women in Caledon want me to do, regarding land, lag, and whatnot... putting me a bit lower on the food chain.

I think there already is the perception that females are more successful at running a business in SL and because of that you probably have many men who create female avatars in hopes to not put off potential customers thus further skewing the demographics. Ultimately this is a debate that can be nothing more then folly. Enjoyable I’m sure for many but circular non the less.

Yikes! Really?

Well, no, it isn't mere folly, although it is certainly not scientific enough to be very useful: you have just proven my point in noting that there is "the perception that females are more successful at running a business in SL." That's the kind of insight that a survey like this can conceivably unearth. Are we going to learn whether RL females are more successful in SL than RL males? Of course not. But as a way of gauging the perception of gender in SL, this kind of approach does have some merits.

LOL, no, "not really." Which, again, is my point.

See...you’ all could have just asked me in the first place

/me checks to see if I am 'wrapped'. Nope. I do know, as some others here, a very successful land owning person who plays as female but is male in rl.

I do not think it matters,We sell our art and marketing skills here.

I think there are success stories with both genders.

I really haven't a clue.

Smithy - you're a twister! (But I like you.)