NO the First Land Available Now ?

NO the First Land Available Now ? When is it ended? Then how can I own a popular and cheap land now ?

The First Land program ended approx February 2007. You can still own up to 512m of mainland without paying tier but you will have to buy the land first. To purchase land just search for it using the Land Sales tab in world.

Popular AND cheap? I don't know how you can do that.

You'd be surprised, the two often go together. Not with land though.

~Snowman~

*splutter*

Well said, Snowman.

LMAO

How is it newbies are still asking for something that ceased to exist 12 months ago and failed to work due to being gamed 6 months before that?
You never could get popular and cheap land, just cheap. And you get what you paid for.
Keep in mind too a 512 is usually only a stepping stone..........

No idea how they are still asking about a long ago dead program, but is it necessary to interject a snide comment for an innocent question? Some people can only afford 512 and are happy with just that.

Own, i'm curious where you heard about the old firstland program. Care to share?

It wasn't a very smart business decision by LL to get rid of first land

I assume they did it because people were cheating the system by opening monthly premium accounts, getting their 1st land, transferring it to their other alt then closing the new account.

A much better solution by LL would have been to only allow 1st land to people who have paid a years subscription to their premium account.
For people who pay yearly this would be immediately, and for people who pay in smaller increments this would be after their 12th month.

Fair comment, I really mean to say that for most people 512 is not enough and those who can afford more will of course grab more, so that dream 512 may be only a steppingstone really. I doubt many are completely happy with only a 512

Well it was a classic case of a couple of peoples greed ruining something for everyone else, I hope the stress of the court case has made his life more miserable than the money he made from it is worth but he obviously wasn't good enough to earn decent money in any honest fashion and when he did get caught, not to shut up and walk away with what he made. After 12months in the game most people would just resell the 512 anyway as they would already have established themselves elsewhere and probably find 512 too small. And people able to afford a 12 month subscription up front are probably going to have enough money to afford more land too.

I agree with Tegg. First land was gamed to death and probably the majority that did use it, either soon outgrew their small parcels or flipped for some quick in game cash.

I also think the program was more of a drain on the economy than helping it.

To give you a serious answer, a handful of individuals insisted on using hyper-fast 'bots' - external programs that remotely ran an avatar and allowed it to search for and purchase land at cheap prices far faster than a human could react - to rip off the system and profit from buying and immediately reselling First land. Rather than requiring buyers to hold on to their First Land for long enough to make this practice unprofitable, Linden Lab just trashed the whole program.

...and continued to promote it for months and months afterward, conning god knows how many users into going premium only to learn first land had been discontinued long ago.
i know first land was still actively promoted on the website and in the client as recently as a couple of months ago.

And now, I can only find mention of it here and in the Second Life Wiki. Apparently, even the SL Support Portal stuff is FINALLY up to date. Now it says, "What happened to First Land?"

I'm curious as to how people find out about it now, though. I mean, is it others in SL telling them about it?

Perhaps, or maybe they are looking at old articles and websites. Or they signed up a long time ago but haven't done much.



Sometimes Brad, you are your own "Straight Man".

i asked a guy a couple of weeks ago where he saw firstland being talked about and that was pretty much what he said:
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Happy? With only 117 prims you can't really even build and furnish a tiny house on 512sq... IMHO it takes at least 2048sq to put up a decent house and double that for a small mansion. I was one of thoes who got a cheap 1st land and I saw it as a way for the Lindens to make large teir fees off people... give them 512, then they buy 3 or more 512's to build that "dream" house and Lindens get an $8/month teir fee. My advice would be not to buy any land unless you can afford at least the $8/month teir... just my 2cents worth.

Same thing happened to me.... because the Lindens still promote it when you sign up. It is still there on the website. I went inworld and searched high and low for first land only to find out here there is no such thing.

If gambling was allowed I would bet that I don't get my $L1500 in 45 days either.

"G"

problem with first land was all many know. Many people picked up the first land as newbies and then resold it for profit ( or alts of land barons ). In the early days it indeed was helpe those. soon after it was abused and nolonger had a place on sl. Reason why newbies have no idea there is no first land could be some unknowing person is willing to give those alts land to feel sorry for. Play the dum newbie land game and you be surprized how much this alts get.

My problem is not with the Lindens stoping the first land program. From what I hear described is a process open to abuse.

My problem is that the website is not current with the reality of the game.

"G"

" the website is not current with the reality of the game."

If you would provide urls with the incorrect information it might be possible to get the information corrected. If urls are hard to share because it's in the knowledgebase, then enough info to precisely locate the incorrect info.


People can easily get out of date information inworld. Notecards, for example, can't be updated in a centralized manner like a web page can. One of the infohubs has an InfoNet terminal (remember those?) with the most current news item being about the list of developer incentive winners. Inworld communication is a pretty sorry affair.

I'm pretty sure that NCI, for example, has been giving out out of date information in notecards - I've heard of this exact obsolete info about First Land being given out at NCI within the past few months. The way that things are stored in Second Life makes it hard for even the most conscientious information providers to keep their information current.

I would be completely happy with a 512 lot - even smaller - if I wasn't selling stuff. But then again, most canines don't need a big fancy house to be happy.

In fact, my vacation home is on a 32 sq.m. lot with a few other junk lots around the sim used for the extra prims. Y'all are waaay too materialistic and prim-happy if you need a huge lot just for your personal use.

But then again, it is Christmas, the season for materialism. Have a Merry one!

1. How much for the first land in the past ?
2.What size can I own ?
3. One-time buy or as well as land use fee ?
4.What's other benefits of the first land ?
5. What's the relation between the first land and current 512 m2 bonus ?
Thanks.

I think you are an alt of someone I know. There's a certain familiarity to your questions. I might be wrong but I don't think so.

I'm sure someone will correct the following statement if it is wrong:



When then first land program was in effect, one got a 512 sm parcel for 512 lindens. That offer isn't available from LL anymore, the first land program is over.

When you get a premium account, you pay Linden Lab 9.95 US dollars every month, regardless of whether you own any land or not. If you want, you can buy up to 512 sm of land on the mainland and there's no extra monthly charge for land use added - the monthly fee for the first 512 sm of land that you own is included in the 9.95 monthly premium account charge.

If you want to buy the 512 sm parcel that you can have without paying an extra charge above the 9.95 dollar a month charge, you have to buy it at market rates, currently somewhere around 8 lindens per sm or more. You generally would buy that from another resident that is selling it. It's possible there might be an auction for a 512 sm parcel but that is uncommon compared to the presence of 512 sm parcels for sale on the mainland by a resident offering to sell it to another resident.

The first land program is ended. It's over, gone, kaput, finished. The first land program has gone to meet it's maker. It's not pining for the fjords, and hasn't had its feet glued to the perch.

What you are wanting is a cheap way to get some land that will yield you a high income, but you don't have any products of your own design or construction, is that right?

1. First land was 1L/m; ie 512L.
2. As much as you're willing to purchase and pay monthly tier (maintenance) on.
3. 512m and under would be a one-time purchase fee only. Anything above would be the purchase price plus monthly maintenance.
4. It was just cheap land for new Residents...no additional benefits over other land purchases of that size.
5. The 512m bonus applies to tier only. Anyone who owns 512m and under pays no monthly maintenance. This was true of First Land as well, when it existed.

The above applies to Mainland only. Estate/Island living follows different rules.