I have to admit that I am guilty of using "I'm sorry I was afk" or the ever more popular "I'm sorry I never got your im. . The lindens must have stole it". Sometimes you just want to be alone. Half the time the friends list doesn't work right anyways so who is to know if you REALLY are online or not. I believe some people are just too damn sensitive and they cause themselves to be told half-truths.
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Rosey Richez
Preys on Innocence
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10-24-2007 19:52
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Alicia Sautereau
if (!social) hide;
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10-24-2007 19:57
Just type this reply to anyone who tries to IM you... Second Life: User not online - message will be stored and delivered later. or when in busy mode when doing stuff  _____________________
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Arima Desade
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Join date: 15 Jul 2006
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10-24-2007 20:37
Back then you could be mapped by others and many people didn't like it as it brought complains. Now you can't be mapped unless you let someone do it which is an improvement. You can also place yourself as being off-line to any other person you want. The problem with this is all they need to do is send you a message (IM) and now they know you're on-line as they'll see the IM going thru'. So what's the use? I wish they made it that if you set yourself as being off-line to someone else then even if that person sends you an IM it would still appear to them that you're off-line since this is what you want them to think anyway. With you still getting whatever IM you was sent. Don't you think this is better? as for the original post......... yes... |
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Cole Riel
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10-25-2007 00:58
Well I don't find it rude at all... I'd much prefer someone tell me up front they are busy than what often happens now, where people take 10 minutes to reply to an IM. (It's no big deal, and I sometimes do the same thing.) That's why I advocate for a better busy response... because the Busy response is automatically generated, thus need not be taken as personally. The other feature I'd like to see is the ability to set Busy *before* you log in. If you want to stop what you're doing every few mins to tell others you're busy then it's fine for you. But many others don't wish to do this for their own reasons and I totally agree you shouldn't have to. |
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Brenda Connolly
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10-25-2007 04:06
If you want to stop what you're doing every few mins to tell others you're busy then it's fine for you. But many others don't wish to do this for their own reasons and I totally agree you shouldn't have to. Like flying a helicopter, or skydiving in Mouselook. _____________________
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3Ring Binder
always smile
Join date: 8 Mar 2007
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10-25-2007 06:17
i have a new neighbor who runs over to talk about her latest drama every time i come online. within seconds she is in my face. i really don't care what 2 people talked about that i have never met. it's so annoying. sheesh. latetly i've only come online to build (again) and her constant presence is quickly becoming annoying. i don't hide anymore, because i forget to reappear and my RL friends get mad at me. LOL i just "uh-huh" every once inawhile now to this girl, and mostly ignore her chat crap while i edit and build and just park prims on top of her. can't she see she's in my way? maybe she'll get a clue soon, and stay on her own land when i come online.
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Isablan Neva
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10-27-2007 09:54
i have a new neighbor who runs over to talk about her latest drama every time i come online. within seconds she is in my face. Build naked. That might discourage her _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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10-27-2007 09:57
Build naked. That might discourage her It might encourage her.  |
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Brenda Connolly
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10-27-2007 10:03
It might encourage her. Is that what happened when you were building at my place and met... "Oui , Oui Boy"? _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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10-27-2007 10:05
Is that what happened when you were building at my place and met... "Oui , Oui Boy"?  I was dressed! And I had no idea about his "little fetish" till was nothing I could do. |
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Isablan Neva
Mystic
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10-27-2007 10:19
It might encourage her. Doubtful. People like that are just looking for a pair of ears to listen to their latest tale of drama. It is a totally one sided conversation - almost always about something that wasn't any of their business in the first place. _____________________
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3Ring Binder
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10-27-2007 10:24
yeah that. i need a fly swatter with animation! LOL
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Colette Meiji
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10-27-2007 10:26
Doubtful. People like that are just looking for a pair of ears to listen to their latest tale of drama. It is a totally one sided conversation - almost always about something that wasn't any of their business in the first place. Well in the very least would give her something else to talk about  |
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Stacia Villota
Virtual Neko
Join date: 3 Oct 2007
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Online Status Checkbox not working
10-28-2007 14:59
[QUOTE=Carlos Cameron wrote:
> You can also place yourself as being off-line to any > other person you want. Unfortunately, this doesn't always work. I have one person who consistently "sees" me the second I come online, and says "Hey! You made it online tonight!", even though I have clicked the "Can't see my online status" checkbox with this person. No one can explain why this is happening, none of the mentors had any suggestions, and I can't seem to find anything out about it in the JIRA. I suspect it is some sort of bug...? And it's not just him sending an IM to see if I'm around -- he has confirmed that he sees me... despite the checkbox. It's terribly annoying. Anyone? SL specialists? Help? (P.S. Typing the "User not online" message is a nice idea, but it will show that message coming from your Avie, i.e., "Stacia Villota: Second Life: User not online..." which looks a bit different than the real response that only starts with "Second Life: User not online." Might fool a few people tho...) |
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Daisy Rimbaud
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10-28-2007 16:37
Very easy - most likely this person has an online indicator linked to your key, so a light goes on when you come online. These are extremely easy to make.
The solution is simply to ignore IMs from the individual in question. If they complain, say you were busy. If they go off in a huff, it's not much of a loss, is it? |
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Colette Meiji
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10-28-2007 16:39
Very easy - most likely this person has an online indicator linked to your key, so a light goes on when you come online. These are extremely easy to make. The solution is simply to ignore IMs from the individual in question. If they complain, say you were busy. If they go off in a huff, it's not much of a loss, is it? actually this has been broken for a while. people suddenly could see me that I was on hide from, for months. |
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Jade Angkarn
Always a Night Owl
Join date: 6 Oct 2006
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10-28-2007 21:24
actually this has been broken for a while. people suddenly could see me that I was on hide from, for months. I also had a close friend tell me recently that my name was completely gone from their list, and I hadn't unfriended them nor changed online view status. Fortunately I came back after they relogged. The friend was starting to think I was upset with them for some unknown reason, which couldn't be farther from the truth. Which leads to one of my SL practices... if something happens, such as someone not replying to IMs, or seeming to disappear, or some such oddness.... Blame SL *first*. I hate to think of the friendships that have been eroded because of SL's flakiness. |
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Zube Zymurgy
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BUSY status, not working
10-29-2007 15:51
Hi All,
Just been reading through the list of messages from the begining. Gave up in the end. I simply want to indicate to people I'm busy when I'm busy. Didn't see any specific posts so maybe its not a common problem to set busy and still get IM's ? The logic I have is that its a feature, and if you have a feature it should work. If it does not work then, someone should be kind enough to indicate that it does not and/or disable the feature. Anyone have any info on if the feature is broken? and if so is there a fix or are Linden aware or ? |
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Czari Zenovka
I've Had it With "PC"!
Join date: 3 May 2007
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10-29-2007 16:18
Set to Busy Mode O_O Well, I do that, especially when I am spending some "alone time" with my partner. Then that "ding-ding" sounds when an IM comes in and can break a mood so to speak. Ok, so I can turn the sound off but then I miss hearing music and such. (Now that I think of it...I wonder if one of the sliding bars in the sound tab could turn off the IM message alert but keep other sounds on - going to check on that when I'm in world.) That being said, with the 3rd party products mentioned elsewhere in the thread, if someone REALLY wants to know someone is online for whatever reason...they can. |
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3Ring Binder
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10-29-2007 16:20
someone metioned removal from list....
if i remove someone from my list, do they know? _____________________
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Daisy Rimbaud
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10-29-2007 16:23
actually this has been broken for a while. It's been working for me OK. |
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Genku Kumaki
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Join date: 26 Sep 2007
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10-29-2007 16:39
Hi All, Just been reading through the list of messages from the begining. Gave up in the end. I simply want to indicate to people I'm busy when I'm busy. Didn't see any specific posts so maybe its not a common problem to set busy and still get IM's ? The logic I have is that its a feature, and if you have a feature it should work. If it does not work then, someone should be kind enough to indicate that it does not and/or disable the feature. Anyone have any info on if the feature is broken? and if so is there a fix or are Linden aware or ? The feature has been broken for me lately. I can't say for how long. I will estimate for the past 2 weeks. Also, I cannot fully leave certain groups and group IMs are once again a never ending nuisance despite closing the window numerous times. |
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Oryx Tempel
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Join date: 8 Nov 2006
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10-29-2007 17:57
1. Set Busy works fine for both receiving and sending IMs. In other words, if I set myself to busy, all my IMs get stored until I read them. Likewise, if I send an IM to someone who is busy, the IM is received and stored for later reading by the busy person.
2. 3Ring, if you take someone off your friends list, you will be gone from their friend list, so, yes, they will know if you have removed them from your list. 3. There are a ton of devices out there that can tell users if you are online or not, regardless of what you specify in your friends list. I have a pair of sunglasses with this feature and I actually have a freebie script that I picked up somewhere. People can also see if you are online by checking the Group Info screen of a mutual group; you will be listed as "online" if you are logged in. They can also see if you are online by looking at the Profile window; if the Teleport button is highlighted or available, then you are online. All in all, as it stands, it's virtually impossible to remain completely hidden. Hence the alt. 4. How can you not "fully leave a group?" Just leave it. If you are an owner, it's quite possible that you won't be able to leave it unless you kick out all the members except yourself, close to new members, and let it sit at 1 member for a few days, whereupon it will be automatically dissolved by LL. 5. Group IMs are a nuisance. We all know that. Vote for the JIRA issue here: With 250 votes and counting, you can be sure that LL is aware of this and hopefully will implement a change. _____________________
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Czari Zenovka
I've Had it With "PC"!
Join date: 3 May 2007
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10-29-2007 21:30
I disagree. They are two separate things. In real life I have the choice to not answer the phone. In real life I have the choice to not answer the door. In SL they know that I am there. Just getting IM's saying hello can be overbearing at times. Many times I am dealing with people who don't know boundaries and do not have the time to teach them, yet it is still important that I keep them on my friends list. Well said! Agree with you 1,000%! |
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Czari Zenovka
I've Had it With "PC"!
Join date: 3 May 2007
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10-29-2007 21:39
I guess I just don't have the same privacy needs in SL as others do. To me, the act of deliberately blocking someone from seeing me is kind of unfriendly -- when I feel that way about someone I simply unfriend them. I do not feel the "need" to have them on my FL so I can turn my friendship with them on and off as I wish -- that strikes me as game playing, but I know that others are not seeing themselves as playing games .. it's just very odd to me. I think that if LL is going to have a system that lets people "hide", it should work everywhere, though -- website, groups, profile, "friend" list, etc. .. otherwise it's just another broken thing. Ok, here's an example... I am spending some quiet time with my partner. Yes, I *could* politely tell any friends who IM during that time that I am busy at the moment, but there are some who STILL say "Ok, but real quick...can you tell me where that (whatever) was you were wearing the other day." Ok, one of those *might* not be a big deal...but several during time that my partner is only going to be online for a short time and we wish to be alone add up. And just because I wish some quiet time does NOT mean I am trying to "turn my friendship (with others) on and off as I wish". It works out much better to just turn my online status off to most of the world, enjoy my bit of time with my partner, no one's feelings get hurt because I don't rush right out and help someone find something THAT instant, then turn my status back on a bit later. |