Second Life = Deviant Life? Have YOUR say

I see where you are coming from Jig, but I doubt this will have any impact on Second Life's <sarcasm>pristine</sarcasm> reputation amongst the mindless masses of First Life.

Can't blame people for being people. They're awnry sometimes, and everyone saw it coming a mile away when this thread hit, just as the monsterous deviant thread of yesteryear had been necro'd.

Well Jig, for my part, I started thinking, "oh god, not another one", followed by some hope that it was genuine attempt, followed by suspicion that it was all too fishy, followed by his sudden departure and the removal of the web page.

Fortunately, my posts are all the same regardless.



I wonder if there ever was a study.

Actually there was. His credentials checked out. Despite what the Lord High Poobah of these threads may claim.

There's "ornery" and then there is something else. This is the "something else". There was absolutely no need for this feeding frenzy.
It's embarrassing and will certainly impact anyone who opens the forum to see how we treat those who ask for a favour.
In the end, I spoke to Rosser and found him an intelligent and pleasant person. Even if he was "making it all up" (which he wasn't) there was NO NEED to jump of him liek that. This type of behaviour and attitude is getting to me. And it's driving people who have EVERY RIGHT to post here away.
We must curb this attitude. It's just NOT healthy and NOT decent. None of us would say teh things we have said here if we were in real - why should we behave any differently here? I am really angry over this and feel deeply ashamed I ever came to secondlife.

That seems a bit extreme to say....

I am ashamed that I came to SL also now... where it brought out the deviant in me. Before SL, I was normal. Now? <sniff> I don't know who i am. DAMN YOU. DAMN YOU SL!!!!!

All kidding aside, we see these surveys all the time. We are not lab rats. Go into the world. Experience it for yourself. Then come ask questions.

Before the Do Not Call list appeared, we used to get tons of telephone calls in the evenings from salespeople, and it was a nuisance.

The surveys are much like that. Did we ask for them? Did we sign up or opt in to receive survey requests?

It's unfortunate that there is no preparation for the survey-senders, that there are no guidelines or screeners, or better still, a FORUM devoted exclusively to surveys, so that those who DO like to take surveys can go on over and have themselves a time.

If it doesnt interest you then put down th ephone and continue with your life. The same goes for threads here. No need to post "I'm not interested" or "P*ss Off!" Just dont post. It's as simple as that.

No, actually, it isn't. This verbal crucifixion - pages and pages of "witticisms" and sarcasms - was truly mortifying.
We are losing touch with who we are in real. None of us, I hope, would treat any stranger - even with a survey in hand - like that.
Frankly if this is how sl is going, I'm not so sure I want to be a part of it.

If ya have to ask the question you havent been in SL long enough to ask the question

Oh For God's Sake! Leave the poor guy alone! He's gone. He's NOT coming back!

But it isn't as though he had a neutral message. He wasn't asking if we preferred one brand of soap flakes over another. He was asking whether we we thought we were deviants.

NO HE WASN'T!!!!
I did the survey. It wasnt about deviants in teh sexual sense AT ALL!!!!!Arrrgh!!!!!
Oh too frustrated.
take a breath, Jig.
It was "deviance from teh 'norm'" and he couldn't give a toss about our sex behaviours.
In the sense he referred to we are ALL deviants - its a curve and sl is just part of that curve.
It's liek when I request a survey - and teh comoany give me a specific response from that rather generic question taht was posed. Oh my spelling is shot.
I just don't know what to say. Believe me if I could respond totally factually over this whole issue I would but I simply can't .

But the other kind is no fun.

Okay.

1. Some people suggest that Second Life encourages deviant activities. Do you feel your behavior is less inhibited in Second Life than the physical world?

Yes, being deviant is one of the primary differences between humans and other mammals.
We encourage individuality. Which is considered an eye-sore to narrow minded humans, such as orthodox religious humans, who force us to become like them, eat like them, and think like them.

2. Some people suggest that Second Life mirrors the physical world. Is your experience of Second Life remote from, or close to, the physical world in which you reside?

Second life is designed to reflect the senses we experience already in our normal life, with exaggeration. It's what we humans experience for over thousands of years. Our wishes to become things we are not, and do things we currently cannot. Such as flying without an unnatural device, and casting magic without the proper exchange of required particles.

3. There is 3D avatar creation technology in Second Life, do you want an avatar that closely resembles you, or realises some new desired image?

Some desire to create a copy of what they already are. But it's practically logical to become something you are currently not. see question 2.

4. In the communities of Second Life, there are various norms and rules, how do they shape your views about deviant activities?

Define deviant for me please. This question, against resembles question 2 and 3.
The rules in second life are closely related to the laws of crowd control we already have. For those who cannot control their own desires, and need to be forced to keep the deviancy to a government controlled maximum. Such as sex with children, obscene nudity in places where it's not allowed, and common sense, including respect to another being.

My question to you... Do you have any intelligent, and more "deviant" questions available?
I sense, as you claim to study at a higher level, you will be able to. Unless you are just a "dark" deviant yourself, which we most likely would address as a "troll".

Additionally. Why is being deviant considered a study? Studying is considered deviant as well. It makes you discover things that are currently unknown, and out of the "norm"

Which is practically the explanation of the word.

If he would have done his research, he would have done a search on surveys and have seen we are getting fed up with them. Simple. If he would have come to my door I would have treated him the same way as I do in the forum: tell him to go to the next door. But this man could have known better by simply using search functionality. No rocket science.

Furthermore, this is not how SL is going, this is how the forums are going. Forums you decided to leave anyway, if I remember well.

Jig I was glad to see you decided to quit with the teh bullshit and check your spelling before posting, and this is not an attack to you. But there is no need to get so fed up, I guess.

He set himself up for fail from the outset. He claimed he was giving SLers a chance to disprove SL's alleged sleazy reputation to the outside world, one that is overhyped if you ask me. I think most people in the real world could give a frack about SL, and we need to stop the self important hand wringing over "What do they think of us?" Most people don't think about us at all. In any event, the title of this thread set his survey on a course of doom, he used the same tabloid buzzword methodology as the yellow journalism that we are supposed to be so angst ridden over. That shows to me he really doesn't know much about his topic of choice, as most of these "researchers" do. Let them go inworld , spend some time there and ask their questions.

I was waiting for you to show up. Great post, as expected.

Marcel, don't be so sanctimonious. Yes I did decide to leave the forums, but then I thought, well, why should I? I pay a high tier; I can post if I choose. Have you read the entirety of this thread? I realize that the forums is very much a "closed shop" and that men and women who have an interest in the complexities of the social behviours here really shouldnt ask any questions anymore.
There WAS a time when people did ask questions with less fear of being flamed. My point will ALWAYS be that there is NO NEED for "dark sarcasm in THIS 'classroom'" as Pink Floyd might sing. What joys do we get from insulting? Or initiating cyncial responses? Are people so bored in reality that they must hurt others here? What pleasure is there in any of that?
This was a good place. To some extent sl is still a good place. But now people who post must literally take a deep breath before being "passed" by the Board of Inspection.
The forum is being killed - I am almost sure it is being done on purpose by people who get some sense of pleasure in flaming and griming. I made a real effort to spell correctly in forums - my Oxford dictionary is at hand, but I have a brain and know how to use it. No doubt I'll still be put on ignore but I will simply carry on with MY belief that this forum can serve as a venue for the exchange of ideas and complex issues that directly/indirectly impact sl.
But, I am totally fed up. I am not sur how long I can happily pour a cup of coffee and settle down to some thinking and music lplaying and reading here. This forum is just so opposite to what secondlife set out to achieve.

Further, the credo of secondlife is to encourage education and dialogue and harmony. This forum has been hi-jacked from those values.

Marcel didn't say he was pleased you quit the forums.

Pie (Missed the teh point again, Jig)

Sanctimonious even. Uncalled for.
Read below why you should leave though.


Actual questions get answered, even by me as well. Read the question about the collar and Master, if you care. Senseless postings get sarcasm. But every question that belongs here in RA gets answered if anyone knows the answer.


No need for dictionaries, I do not use one either and I am no native speaker. Spelling correction is your best friend.
And no one is killing this forum. It is called resident answers and people can ask questions. About Second Life, that is.


No one hijacks nothing. Do you remember the initiative for Chris, just to mention something? Is that the opposite of what SL is set out to achieve? What IS SL set out to achieve anyway? Enlighten us.

Back to the reason why you should leave: Read your own posting. If this forum feds you up, simply take a break. It is only the greaking forum you know.

Okay, Marcel, you win. So I should leave? I'm a nasty little bitch. stupid also to - even though I PREFER to use a dictionary. What has the initiative for Chris got to do with the price of eggs? Who judges if a posting is "senseless"? Who died and made you judge. jury and executioner? Why should the fact that you speak ESL be of any consequence? So I'm a little dyslexic - so f**king what? I might add that I dont think any posting is "senseless" - I regret what I typed at the start of this thread and said so long ago.

SL has a credo when you first log on to Secondlife.com. It is also committed to education and recently is developing strategies for implementation of those objectives. Enlighten you? No, you suggest I should be the one enlightened.

Ah, why do I do this? How do you know it is th eonly "greaking forum" I know? How do you know ANYTHING about me at all? Except I am still sorry we treated that poster like we did. We are NOT a f**king "gang" - this SL forum is a global community and we should behave as if we were aware of that. No one will come to my defense coz the only people using teh forums now are a handful - 100 maybe? - of old forum/cartel members.

The forum is a broken-down shagged-out idea. Shame on us every time we diminish someone because he or she doesnt meet our "high and mighty" expectations. It is just NOT right,

I just want to say that "Deviant Life" would be a really cool name for an MMO.

Why can't we just all get along?