No. I'm about as cutting edge as a broken butter knife.
If this were true you'd be curled up next to the fireplace with a Jane Austen novel.
You're a little more cutting-edge than that.
Though there's nothing wrong with Jane Austen.
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Alvaro Zapatero
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09-26-2009 20:43
No. I'm about as cutting edge as a broken butter knife. If this were true you'd be curled up next to the fireplace with a Jane Austen novel. You're a little more cutting-edge than that. Though there's nothing wrong with Jane Austen. _____________________
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Viktoria Dovgal
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09-26-2009 20:45
What's keeping you out of the SL Answers blog? (O.o) they need to do way instain linden> who kill thier forrims. becuse these forrim cant frigth back? |
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Alvaro Zapatero
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09-26-2009 20:49
they need to do way instain linden> who kill thier forrims. becuse these forrim cant frigth back? Channeling Jig Chippewa these days? _____________________
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
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09-26-2009 20:57
they need to do way instain linden> who kill thier forrims. becuse these forrim cant frigth back? How is forrim formed? _____________________
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Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
Join date: 11 Oct 2008
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09-26-2009 21:00
If this were true you'd be curled up next to the fireplace with a Jane Austen novel. You're a little more cutting-edge than that. Though there's nothing wrong with Jane Austen. /me looks up from her paperback copy of Sense and Sensibility. Hmmmmm? Sorry, what was that? _____________________
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Kidd Krasner
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Join date: 1 Jan 2007
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09-26-2009 21:23
You folks are too harsh. Can it be that those who like to think of themselves as "cutting-edge" can't handle change? I found the layout to be quite intuitive and easy to navigate. Perhaps you could describe the navigation paths you use, as some of the ones I use can't possibly be described as intuitive. I did a basic analysis at http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-1314 . |
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SuezanneC Baskerville
Forums Rock!
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09-26-2009 21:53
You can start a discussion and not mark it as a question (or maybe un-mark it, I don't remember). That eliminates the point awarding BS.
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
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09-27-2009 07:45
they need to do way instain linden> who kill thier forrims. becuse these forrim cant frigth back? I've had a couple of brief stints trying to ask and answer questions on SL Answers. Yeah, the aesthetics and mechanics aren't great, and the point system is just an embarrassment IMHO, but one could learn to live with all that. It's not as if these forums are an elegant design, super-intuitive on first use, and totally devoid of stupid social artifacts. No, the thing that drives me away after every brief attempt is that it's boring over there. Really, really boring. And they don't even have a yawn emoticon. _____________________
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Kitty Barnett
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09-27-2009 08:03
No, the thing that drives me away after every brief attempt is that it's boring over there. Really, really boring. . And of course if the grid hick-up'ed you'd know because you'd suddenly get 100 flashing IMs full of angry people in under a minute .A good portion of the 'calls' was repetitive too (fix for the rainbow coloured textures bug and "shredded Jesus avie, multiple trash folders, etc) but many were "advanced" enough to make it challenging as well (plenty of sim owners with questions on how to set up their sim, mainland owners trying to juggle tier from one group to another, hunting down an object that was spamming someone, etc). And the way LL treated Life Help and resident helpers, particularly all the badmouthing from Lindens that came after it and their selective memory about it is why I don't personally bother with "Answers". And even if I wanted to, the fact that it's on the website rather than in-world is enough to make me not want to bother eiither. |
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
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09-27-2009 08:20
The problem that I have with the site id that it's all about problem solving and not about discussion. It lacks warmth. It doesn't feel like a community as this forum does. Indeed, I agree with you here. Sometimes we need a discusion, there's no 100% right answer for some issues and that's where it fails. |
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Mickey Vandeverre
See you Inworld
Join date: 7 Dec 2006
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09-27-2009 08:21
I just took the time to write out a long post for the commerce forum, in an attempt to point out some helpful tidbits. It might come off snarky. It's not. I could post it here, and as long as I inserted the proper amount of smiley faces in the proper places.....it probably would not come off too bad, and might lead to further discussion among merchants who have been there and done that, in order to help out a new business owner.
Judging from the way the discussion goes over there.....(can't pinpoint the right adjective at the moment)......I think there would be a pile-up, (and I've been trying to limit those).....and the points would be missed among the overuse of smiley faces, that aren't really necessary to get a point across. So I think I'll pass on posting it. I think others will operate the same. I'll miss those people, and their "not really snarky, but helpful and REAL" comments. Unless you dare me to post it as an experiment. ![]() |
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Benski Trenkins
Free speech for the dumb
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09-27-2009 08:28
I just took the time to write out a long post for the commerce forum, in an attempt to point out some helpful tidbits. It might come off snarky. It's not. I could post it here, and as long as I inserted the proper amount of smiley faces in the proper places.....it probably would not come off too bad, and might lead to further discussion among merchants who have been there and done that, in order to help out a new business owner. Judging from the way the discussion goes over there.....(can't pinpoint the right adjective at the moment)......I think there would be a pile-up, (and I've been trying to limit those).....and the points would be missed among the overuse of smiley faces, that aren't really necessary to get a point across. So I think I'll pass on posting it. I think others will operate the same. I'll miss those people, and their "not really snarky, but helpful and REAL" comments. Unless you dare me to post it as an experiment. ![]() I dare you ![]() _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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09-27-2009 08:31
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Mickey Vandeverre
See you Inworld
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09-27-2009 08:32
I dare you ![]() Easy for you to say! You never get the pile-ups because you're so sweet! oh wait......yes you did...... |
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Milla Janick
Empress Of The Universe
Join date: 2 Jan 2008
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09-27-2009 08:35
90% of the time I am reading or posting on the forums, I do so on my cellphone. My N97 has a hard time with the format there, so it is useless for me. LL, a company claiming to embrase new technologies, has fully overlooked, and after pointing it out to them, ignored this fact. The editor doesn't work on my iPod either, which helps kill it for me. _____________________
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Mickey Vandeverre
See you Inworld
Join date: 7 Dec 2006
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09-27-2009 08:40
Second Dang....I was going to make a fresh start over there. Here's the deal.....if not one person gets Bent.....then you will agree to submit a lengthy post to the topic of your choice over there, and eat any words of contempt for the new "forum." Safe bet? |
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Benski Trenkins
Free speech for the dumb
Join date: 23 Feb 2008
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09-27-2009 08:41
the so called forums there have too many elements that simply are frustrating to me.
Like I mentioned before, I like to use new technologies, and behold, that new technology has no issues with these forums, but are totally useless there. Secondly, they give constant warnings on my computer. And I will be cautious there to post, since I am considered a 'newbie' there. That status bar is a Big big mistake. Experts that would now consider to answer there, people that we all know are great at helping with issues, will be considered newbies. Some say ignore that, but real newbies might actually value that, and follow a so called "expert" advice on a topic while that other, way better answer is posted by someone that is marked "newbie" as well, so they cannot know more than the "expert" Get rid of that stupid point system. It failed years and years ago on several technical forums with people following 'expert' advise ending up with huge damage on expensive equipment. I love cutting edge technologie, and I do think these forums are out dated. But ehm... No matter how you look at it, it does the job 10 times better than the new Blogs, no matter how shiny they look. - The blogs are not cutting edge because they cannot run on cutting edge technology - The point system is misleading - Community feel is gone - Blogs are no forums. There is a destinctive difference - No ignore, flag function. - No way to comment on a 'correct' answer to point out that it is actually 'incorrect' _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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09-27-2009 08:44
Dang....I was going to make a fresh start over there. Here's the deal.....if not one person gets Bent.....then you will agree to submit a lengthy post to the topic of your choice over there, and eat any words of contempt for the new "forum." Safe bet? Sorry...I'm out. I have no interest in ever going there again. _____________________
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
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09-27-2009 08:50
I thought this was the aswers blog. Have I been coming to the wrong place all the time? No wonder you people have had me confused. You always yell, "Noooo NOT another question from Chippewa!!!!" Maybe I should ask there about men in tights and why men are such dingdongs.
By the way, men should NOT wear tights. Some women don't look too thrilling in them either. And why do women wear really tight lycra tops in supermarkets (which I avoid). Have you seen them recently? At the checkouts with malnourished looking kids and bloppy women with streeeetchhheedd tight tops so you have this Mrs. Wobbly in front of you. And they wear real bum-huggers too, and those shorts taht show behind the knee dumples. I just think "Mummy, make them stop!" _____________________
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Nika Talaj
now you see her ...
Join date: 2 Jan 2007
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09-27-2009 08:54
Here's the deal.....if not one person gets Bent.....then you will agree to submit a lengthy post to the topic of your choice over there, and eat any words of contempt for the new "forum." Safe bet? I guess that's an oblique way of saying that some folks might LIKE a place which is more boring, because it doesn't attract the kind of folks who flame others? Sure, I could see that. It just doesn't appeal to me - I'm willing to put up with the occasional roasting, in the name of diversity and entertainment. |
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Mickey Vandeverre
See you Inworld
Join date: 7 Dec 2006
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09-27-2009 09:03
Not sure I understand. Are you saying, that if you post over there and no one roasts you (even if no one responds), then everyone who dared you here must agree to put a lengthy post over there, and not criticize the new "forum"? I guess that's an oblique way of saying that some folks might LIKE a place which is more boring, because it doesn't attract the kind of folks who flame others? Sure, I could see that. It just doesn't appeal to me - I'm willing to put up with the occasional roasting, in the name of diversity and entertainment. I'm just saying that I don't think I can be myself over there, and that I'm not positive that others can be themselves over there.....and say it like it is. If you can't do that.....then they might not bother to participate. I did just discover that if you put a smiley face at the end of each paragraph - it will separate the paragraphs for you....which has been keeping me from posting. I can't make paragraphs over there. |
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Kidd Krasner
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09-27-2009 09:30
- Blogs are no forums. There is a destinctive difference Could you elaborate on that please? People seem to have different takes on this point. I'm not sure whether it's a real functional difference, a substantive qualitative difference, or simply a visual style difference. Why do you consider them to be blogs? My take: They're poorly implemented forums, but they are forums. Anyone can create a new thread, others can comment on them, there are subforums based on subject areas, and the list of threads (once you find it) is sorted by most recent comment, not thread creation date. |
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SuezanneC Baskerville
Forums Rock!
Join date: 22 Dec 2003
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09-27-2009 09:35
How do you see all threads listed sorted by most recent activity, regardless of whether it is marked answered or not, or marked as a question or a discussion, regardless of whether it is in a subforum or not?
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Indeterminate Schism
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Join date: 24 May 2008
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09-27-2009 09:54
You have to face the fact that LL have decided these forums are going to be migrated to the new system. You might find the following useful unless you are leaving completely:
1. "No 'report post' button" - it was there, then it went again, LL says it will come back. In the mean time you can always PM Pink or one of the other 'moderators'. 2. "Quoting is considerably non-existent" - er, no idea what this one means. Click 'reply' on the post you want to quote and then click the 'quote' button in the editor to include it. Editing the quote is a different matter ![]() 3. "Layout wonky" - there are several different layouts available. Within the blogs themselves you can use 'all content', 'discussions', etc. You may also edit your preferences so that threads are shown 'flat' instead of 'threaded'. This puts posts in chronological order and enables paging. 4. "Scoreboard pointless" - worse than useless, a lot of people agree. We've asked LL to remove this and the no. posts/top posters bar-gauge and side-bar. I think Ann O'Toole objects to this although I'm not sure why. No doubt she'll explain here? 5. "Marked as answered, discussion dies" - only if you want it to. The blogs are there to give answers. If you think more is needed it's up to you to add to it. 6. You are not obliged to use the forums LL provides. |
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Kidd Krasner
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Join date: 1 Jan 2007
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09-27-2009 09:56
How do you see all threads listed sorted by most recent activity, regardless of whether it is marked answered or not, or marked as a question or a discussion, regardless of whether it is in a subforum or not? Ah, for the Commerce Forums, I don't think there's a way to get the subforum listings merged in. It's one forum at a time, but meets your other requirements. For the Second Life Answers forums, the top level listing does include the subforums. I don't use that feature for these forums, either. I don't see it being useful for the Resident Answers forums, as the sibling forums are very different, but I could see it being useful for the Content Creation group. |