the SL Economy

If you ask me, going into McDonalds is always agamble.

ROFL

True, but only with your colesterole level ^.~

~Jessy

What about the taste?

I've had some Big Mac's that have been awesome but i've also had Big Macs that were awful.

The person cooking it has a lot to do with the quality of the burger i think.

Well gambling was obviously a substantial part of the SL economy. I don't blame LL for banning it, they risked the whole platform if they'd allowed it to continue but I hope they'd learned some lessons from how the ban was implemented.

I'd wager that prohibition wasn't introduced overnight.

Responsive Lindens?

Forums where people can actually *talk* to the Lindens and not just the first 100 people who happen to be online when a blog topic you'd actually like to respond to happens to get posted?

Deleted by poster ... sorry for helping to drag the thread offtopic.

Under the UIGEA banks are allowed to block payments based on their interpretation of what constitutes a site operator that allows the flow of funds for unlawful internet gambling and the UIGEA shields them from any liability for the same even if the funds blocked actually have nothing to do with unlawful internet gambling. Site operators really don't have any legal recourse unless they are going to challenge the law itself. Now gimme some McFries please!

P.S. I think the only thing Second Life needs is what any massive multi player online game needs, stability and reliable performance. The better that is the better the player retention and participation will be.

2 SL Worlds...2 different login screens......2 versions of SL website. One for the U.S and one for the Rest of the World.


Haha...........only kidding!

I wasn't talking about the gambling ban in particular. The US economy in general is not good.

Its already on the way if internet gambling is legal in china.

www.hipihi.com

I have to agree, whatever has been happening in New York in the last weeks has definitely had a negative effect on my NZX investments.

Luckily i bought those shares with no intention of ever selling them, hmmm i love those juicy dividends(*rubs tummy and does what Homer does when he thinks of food*).

I suppose we all should just ignore the law in favor of doing what we want to do. The law is the law is the law. If LL wants to stay in business and provide a place for us to play, they HAVE to comply with the law of the land or get shut down. Call it a cop out if you wish; but what is the alternative?

I disagree. I knew gambling would go because the government(s) of the US (the states primarily) all have their gambling interests to protect, and actively do so all the time.

However, if what you say is true, then why is big business all over the web? The web is full of adult oriented stuff everwhere you look, but the big business ALL have a presence on the web despite this fact. I called the banning of gambling in SL long before it happened, ask any of my fiends, but dont' expect to see mature content getting banned, as, I highly doubt that will happen.

I don't really see that the SL economy Needs any improvement. An economy Is what it is, it grows, Changes, Fluctuates, adapts, and that is what the SL economy is doing.

Several months ago, some Clever person invented Copybot. Copybot was supposed to be, by all accounts, the End of the SL economy because it would Enable people to steal the prim construction component to any object available for Sale in SL. Those people Panicing failed of course to considter that a Prim television, for example is just three, or four Plywood boxes without it's textures, and scripts, so Stealing it is as close to Pointless as Copybot could possibly get, but that didn't stop weeks of Dire predictions of the End of the SL: economy as we know it. Well, i beleive it's been a Year,now, and the End is Still not in sight. I wonder if Pessimists actually CAN be disapointed? If so, they Must be so over that Non-event.

~Copybot IS a fact of SL, and the Economy has adapted to whatever minor effect it had, and continued.
~Stipends were Cut, or removed, and still the Economy thrived
~Dwell as a money maker was Eliminated, Still no end to the SL economy.

Now it's Gambling's turn, and the Same thing is going to happen. The money will Keep flowing. It will flow differently as markets change and adapt, but it Won't Dry Up. That is the way of Commerce. Once it starts, it never really stops.

Angel.

If they stoped all the banning of everythign and kept it as the open anf free world it once was and kill the age/idenity verifaction thing thats comeing at us like a train in a tunnle
There are a few more things comeing at us none of which are cool.

I think the BEST thing to save Sl would be to fire all LL staff from the top all the way to the janitor and hire the SLX staff to run LL lol but thats just a pipe dream lol

What HAVE you been smoking?

a working, stable grid with true 24/7 customer service, and in world help, for a start.
careful monitoring of all business transactions regardign theft and not frivilous abuse reports regardign the scuffing of ones "pumas".

Well there is a CC available within SL... It's a RL bank that issue you with your own CC for use ingame for any approved vendor (I assume they don't issue vending rights to ilegal usage such as gambling).

To make the SL ecomony better? Easy answer, making transactions, good 100% secure and transparent.
Currently, you pay for something and there are no assureties/laws to protect you that you will ever get those goods, or they won't be stolen/deleted from your inventory in the event of a system issue/crash/rollback etc.
Linden Labs actually getting rid of CopyBot, would perhaps be an encouraging sign that they take IP rights seriously. Some form of backup in resolving disputes when people are robbed through scams, rather than take the stance 'personal disputes are not supported by LL'.

It needs more then you to piss me off.... NEXT.

BTW there is also childporn in the US... just for your information.

Morwen.

Yeah, for example led to creation of USA...


Owww, only american kids can have sex with you?


good that not piss on, just off


I do. Even if this time you were the one who made me laugh, Amy.

I think the big danger regarding "banning mature content" is that it will be done in order to allow LL to merge the teen and adult grids.

At first I thought this wasn't such a major risk - until I read a report on these forums from a user who had a child who had visited the TG. They said that the TG had only one continent, and barely anything built on it. Now I'm sure I remember reading someone else talking about the TG a while back and saying that it had a lot more than that - which means that it's shrinking. (Logically it would be, since people on the TG will inevitably either eventually quit or move to the MG, and it's well-known that TG recruitment is down because of the "credit card/no credit card" issue.) Combine that with brands such as Ben and Jerry's and Coke who have no interest in a strong difference between age 17 and 18, plus the negative publicity that the SL sex industry attracts, and there's going to be a lot of pressure on LL to merge the two.

That means paypal shouldnt need to be verified or backed by 2 funding sources and most major credit and debit cards should be taken etc.

LL could buy an internet shop program for 100$ that is easier to pay than their payment methods.

By making it much easier for people to pay them, there will be many more people getting premium accounts or buying L$.

Make it easier to pay them?

I can only judge my way to pay them (Mastercard credit card). It couldn't be easier... All my teir is paid without interaction from my side. So it happens once per year for my premium account...

If I want to buy L$, I pull down the world-menu and enter the amount of L$ I want to buy.... or I do it through the account-page on their website.

As said, this goes for me.... I cannot judge other situations.

Morwen.

This is very interesting indeed. But to be honest... I'm not sure this would be such a negative development, on balance. If mature content is only available to age-verified residents, that would solve a lot of ugly problems. Although that would be at the considerable social cost of that age-verification process itself; I suppose that's the implied downside, right, or is there more that I'm missing, too?

Damn... I must have loaded up my NiAeVe version of IE again and got onto the wrong forums.. best not say too much about whats happening in the rest of the world.. in case you guys discover the world isn't really flat and ends at the two ponds eitherside of you... lol... almost kidding. Still 20% of nothing is probably worth having.... (now I am kidding)..

FYI, I am married to a smashing American Lady.. love the cultural exchanges... and in her words.. 'I (me) don't have a gameboy, I play Rugby (its a man thang), write poetry, put down the toilet seat, say sorry with more than words and set up an account on a website so she can get all the care packages she needs to make her stay here more complete'.....