Avatar discrimination

That doesn't really make sense. Asking people to follow the sim rules is not the same thing at all, as only inviting specific avatars in. You also draw no distinction here between bans based on appearance or bans based on behavior.

So, if someone opens a shop in real life (or SL), anything goes? I beg to differ.

The owners of the land can invite everyone and eject every single person they invite if they want to. They may feel all-powerful because they can do it. Just because they are allowed to do it doesn't mean they aren't jerks.

Now, a mature and responsible land owner would consider not opening the land to the public if the owner did not want the public to come. Alternately, if the owner wants to enforce some rules, the owner would make those rules clearly available at the access point for the land. That way, if someone shows up in the cardboard box avatar, and the rules prohibit cardboard boxes, that someone has the opportunity to change or leave.

It's actually a lot easier on the owner of the land to give people to the chance to follow the rules themselves, rather than inspecting and booting everyone who shows up. But I guess that doesn't have quite the same power rush of judging someone's worthiness and then ejecting them.

I did not see any indication in the OP that any sim's posted rules were being violated.

Take that argument to any 5 star resturant wearing your ripped cutoffs and "Nekos rule" t-shirt. While your at it look for that conspicuous sign stating the dress code requirement. Then go to MacDonalds down the street if you're really hungry.........you won't get in to the 5 star.

Editing to add:

The management won't take any joy in rejecting you......but they will take joy in the reputation they have established by rejecting what is not considered appropriate in their establishment.

Heh! Dont feel bad! I make it a hobby to see where I get kicked out of.

Rotting corpses seem to raise a few eyebrows.

I just get tired of boring-sexy-avatars. Meh. Sexy Avatars in SL are a dime a dozen.

I've never gone to a formal establishment without knowing the dress code in advance. Establishments usually do advertise their dress codes if they have them.

Keep in mind that we are in SL. Is Dance Island the equivalent of a 5-star restaurant? Really? The Dance Island that invites me to "Join this festival?"

Your point is moot on many fronts but lets just focus on one for now. The OP's post is about the right to appear as he chooses to, and NOT conform to whatever appearance code the sim owner has, published or otherwise. He wants unfettered access to any sim as a box avatar. He doesn't want to have to change to accommodate the sim owner, period. Therefore talking about advertising a code for appearance is irrelevant.

Seriouslly answering - well its kafkesque I guess. But isnt it a bit nihilistic?
Anyway, boxes dont do much except get posted.
And at this time of the year, your prolly gonna end up getting lost in transit.

Why not be a banana or a plum?
Or a lamp?
I once met a balloon with a rabbit head. Very superior attitude.

The point is relevant to the posts to which I responded. You are free to point out fully every single front on which the point is moot, however.

I'm off to bed.
But discriminaton does happen here.
I've been kicked outta many laces coz I'm just being me.

Certainly. Let's start of with your position that "if one only wants one's specific invitees on one's property, one should not open it up to the public." In point of fact, for almost every single property that is made open to the public, the proprietor always has specific characteristics in mind regarding the kind of people that are desirable as visitors and the kind of conduct they expect. Under your proposition, if the proprietor is ever going to exercise those expectations by discriminating access based on the same, then the establishment should not be public. By that logic a huge percentage of existing public venues in real life should either have to change their status to being semi-public or private, or by your explicit publication requirement, have to publish a plethora of rules about what is and is not acceptable in terms of appearance and conduct that could never be exhaustive in any case and would deny the establishment the ability to exercise discretion and common sense specific to the facts of each specific situation.

In the real world, aside from rigid dress codes for dinner clubs and restaurants, the criterion are rarely every published and when they are they are usually done with the caveat that the management reserves the right to deny access or refuse service at its discretion.

Retail stores and especially entertainment venues exercise this discretionary unpublished right all the time. For many entertainment venues it is not only a part of the practice but often integral to the business model (night clubs are a perfect example).

Your point about receiving an open invitation to an entertainment venue is also moot. In the real world, nightclub promotions spam numerous locations with open invitations to the venue and hundreds of those recipients are turned away at the door in real life based on what are often very subjective decisions by the door management staff. This is how the real world operates regardless of how you believe or perceive how it might work and it is in no part largely tied into the widely held value that businesses should be allowed to operate in the manner they wish so long as it does not violate very fundamental rules regarding civil rights for tightly defined classes that are protected from arbitrary discrimination.

Open a warehouse or storage depot on a parcel of your own. Make it exclusively for boxes, bags and crates. No unwrapped items allowed. Maybe a lost and found desk? Go 'retro' and build a postal sorting office. You could fill quite a gap in the market.

There are plenty of residents with a thing for nice packages.

and boxes

Tinker.

Amity, I could not agree with you more on that. If only more of them did that it would save trouble on both sides.

I can't beleive I read this whole thing *laughs*

I have an idea for you...why not lay out your hard earned Lindens and buy your own sim. Then you can do whatever you like. You can invite over all the eclectic av's you can find and you all can be eclectic together! And guess what! If one isn't eclectic enough *POOF* you can ban them! Easy...you pay the cost to be the boss!

It's not too hard to figure out eh! Like minded/looking people like to hang out together. It's like that in RL and like that is SL...get over it...maybe you could move on to something even more obscure...like a blank sheet of paper!

PS - are you a plain brown box? Or a flashy white box? (it helps me decide if I need to discriminate against you, or snag you for a xmas present)

I use a furry AV. And I have never had a problem with anyone not agreeing with it. I have also been here since the beginning of time, so I don't really understand this thread.

People always say humans hate furries. But I have never seen it.

I don't think that there should be discrimination against avatar types in general. But at specific venues or events I think the owners or organisers should be able to make rules.

The most obvious example is giant robot or dinosaur avatars. If these turn up they can cause a big obstruction and spoil things for others.

Furries are fine, and generally they 'get' they fantasy idea of SL pretty well. I've always been human myself, although I've occasionally dessed up in a green bear costume.

Seems to me that most folks in SL fall into one of two camps - those who choose to bring the mores and conventions of FL with them, and those who prefer to let loose and think outside the box

What, you're rejecting the Propertarian basis of human rights in property rights over ones own body? You don't see a problem with using force against someone because they choose to express their boxness in their own avatar? Avatars are property too!

I wonder how a teabag av would get on. I fancy being a teabag.

Come on now, what would you say to a nice cup of tea?

I am a human avatar. I still have slider hair and skin. I have worn this avatar for more than 5 years. Other than the occasional rude avatar saying something like "GOD MAN get with the times get decent skin and hair" I haven't run into real discrimination based on my look.

I have run run into discrimination when out dancing with my RL/SL hubby though.

That settles it then. I'm not going to be a teabag because people would just want to drown me.

A while back, I used the cardboard robot avatar from the library.
I had it do a build in which everything was cardboard and packaging textures.
I rezzed the avatar components in-world and made a set of cardboard robots in various (PG) poses.
People passing along the road stopped to chat and seemed quite happy to talk to a small box.

I did wander around the Grid a bit like that, but I didn't see the sense in going to somewhere like a dance club. Whatever about the feelings of people who want to preserve a RL fantasy, boxes have limited dance moves available to them. My robot avatar was very unnervings as a dancer. Little skinny limbs of the crushed avatar inside would slither out of the box. Not nice!