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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
02-03-2005 17:33
From: Weedy Herbst
Jeska, why is this allowed to continue?


I would imagine not wanting to be overbearing in censorship would be part of it. As much as it pains me, I agree with Prokofy in that sentiment - if you run to the Lindens because someone called you a bitch, an asshole, etc..., that is just sad. I am sure in this case there was more, since I can't imagine them suspending someone for calling someone a bitch, though I suppose nothing surprises me anymore.
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
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02-03-2005 17:35
From: Talen Morgan
I have called some people in the forums things but never once in world have I called anyone a name nor harrassed them...in real life I dont waste my time name calling ...people tell me I have a very intimidating look that takes care of any problems I should have. Harrassment is the issue not the word bitch.... No one asks to be harrassed and that is obviously the issue here you just refuse to believe it.


Talen I am curious how calling someone a name here versus in world is any more tolerable? What is the distinction?
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Malachi Petunia
Gentle Miscreant
Join date: 21 Sep 2003
Posts: 3,414
02-03-2005 17:35
A little late to the party, but there is little about SL that could consistently be considered mature.

Edit: myself included
Stormy Roentgen
Prim Putter Togetherer
Join date: 25 May 2004
Posts: 342
02-03-2005 17:44
From: Mex Thorn
Stomry you don't know me so don't say anything about me if can barely pronounce my name or know what it means. So I would really apreciate it if you wouldn't talk your stuff about me in forums when you dont even know me. And NO you have never dealt with me I don't even know who you are. If we had a conflict im sure I would remember it conflits don't get forgotten so easily.


No Mex, there's no mistaking you for someone else. At the time I was playing my main character, Fem Daguerre, and Stormy was just my alt. Since then I've switched up because I liked Stormy's name better, which is another topic.

Anyhow, you left a bunch of scripted objects scattered all over my mall. I deleted them and neg rated you in one cateory, behavior (for leaving your trash on my property... lots of it) which I am perfectly within rights to do.

Your immediate response was "bitch, why you neg me??" I explained why. It lead to nothing more than alot more of your immature attacking and flaming, and that was followed by being neg rated by you and every alt and friend within your reach. I reported you but nothing could be done because it's not against tos to neg rate people and I failed to capture and include the IM's you sent me. I thought the gang banging of neg rates I received was harrassment enough and the only thing really trackable. I am not very accustomed to effectively reporting abuse in a way to gets things done since I am so rarely faced with someone who needs discipline as much as you do. I signed on Stormy and neg rated each of you and your alts/friends that were still standing near my mall chatting, and that was the end of it.

You may recall a few weeks ago, the day the economical patch went in and ratings went up to $L25 per, I went to Mexicantown and removed the negs from each person I could find.... I know both you and Brianna Thorn got negs removed, and a message telling you I removed them. I thought perhaps it being the day the prices increased would in itself be a nice gesture. I thought maybe there might be a nice guy in there somewhere and I'd get as much as a "hey thanks :) " but no such thing. Oh well, no biggie.

Remember now? :D

Love,
"Stomry"
Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
02-03-2005 17:44
From: Cristiano Midnight
I can't imagine them suspending someone for calling someone a bitch, though I suppose nothing surprises me anymore.


Me neither, it's about demeanor. I don't know Mex, but his demeanor speaks louder than his profanity in these theads.
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Mex Thorn
Mex It Up
Join date: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 608
02-03-2005 17:45
Talen calling someone a name is harassment so your scary look isn't enough you harass too. My harassment was she provoked me and I did call her a name and she reported it >>>>> Me got suspended. Why havent you gotten suspended yet? Or are you not saying that you haven't? :eek:
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Mex Thorn
Mex It Up
Join date: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 608
02-03-2005 17:54
Stormy I remember the incident. But the removal of the neg rates I dont. Dont hold it agenst me if I had gotten a message saying that you took my negs off I would have taken yours off. But I didnt. And if they are still off when I get my account back I will take them off both your accounts. I didnt meddle with neg rates those were my first neg rates it pissed me off cause we had a scripted prim fight in the next sim and somehow my prims flew to your mall you got mad and neg rated me before I knew they were there. That is why I got mad and neg rated you back then when you got on alts and neg rated me with 4 alts is when I told my friends what happened and they all neg rated you most of which dont play SL anymore. But in all im sorry Stormy as soon as I get Mex back on the 14th I will take negs off you so theres no hard feeling. I dont want enimies and dont have any there are a few people I dont like but we are on a understanding level "you leave me alone I leave you alone." So Stormy you can take the death sentence off Mex Thorn as soon as I can log into the game :D
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Stormy Roentgen
Prim Putter Togetherer
Join date: 25 May 2004
Posts: 342
02-03-2005 17:58
From: Mex Thorn
Stormy I remember the incident. But the removal of the neg rates I dont. Dont hold it agenst me if I had gotten a message saying that you took my negs off I would have taken yours off. But I didnt. And if they are still off when I get my account back I will take them off both your accounts. I didnt meddle with neg rates those were my first neg rates it pissed me off cause we had a scripted prim fight in the next sim and somehow my prims flew to your mall you got mad and neg rated me before I knew they were there. That is why I got mad and neg rated you back then when you got on alts and neg rated me with 4 alts is when I told my friends what happened and they all neg rated you most of which dont play SL anymore. But in all im sorry Stormy as soon as I get Mex back on the 14th I will take negs off you so theres no hard feeling. I dont want enimies and dont have any there are a few people I dont like but we are on a understanding level "you leave me alone I leave you alone." So Stormy you can take the death sentence off Mex Thorn as soon as I can log into the game :D


Mex, I don't have 4 alts for one thing. For another "Bitch" isn't very nice for the first word you ever say to someone. You don't get away with talking to people that way for long. And the verbal harrassment did not end at "bitch." Like I've said, it's no surprise at all you are now on suspension.

You did not neg rate Stormy. She signed on, negged as quickly as possible, and escaped all but one of your crew. Fem is the one loaded with negs from you and your friends, but it's no matter. I don't play her anymore anyway.
Mex Thorn
Mex It Up
Join date: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 608
02-03-2005 18:05
From: Stormy Roentgen
"Bitch" isn't very nice for the first word you ever say to someone. You don't get away with talking to people that way for long. And the verbal harrassment did not end at "bitch." Like I've said, it's no surprise at all you are now on suspension.

Hmmm. Try to talk nice and correct my mistake but yet you down me for what happened what 4 5 months ago and still dont know me but yet you can judge me from what you started. If something lands on your land what is the first thing you do? Find out who made it and neg them? No darling, that is why YOU deserved to be called that name you provoked it so dont get mad. I only want to correct the problem but if you want to act immature then forget it I am only trying to be a nice guy and take off negs you want to be a smartass be it.
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Stormy Roentgen
Prim Putter Togetherer
Join date: 25 May 2004
Posts: 342
02-03-2005 18:17
From: Mex Thorn
Hmmm. Try to talk nice and correct my mistake but yet you down me for what happened what 4 5 months ago and still dont know me but yet you can judge me from what you started. If something lands on your land what is the first thing you do? Find out who made it and neg them? No darling, that is why YOU deserved to be called that name you provoked it so dont get mad. I only want to correct the problem but if you want to act immature then forget it I am only trying to be a nice guy and take off negs you want to be a smartass be it.


I don't need you to make anything right and remove negs from Fem, babe. This thread alone is enough to put a smile on my face, and for that, thank you! :D
Mex Thorn
Mex It Up
Join date: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 608
02-03-2005 18:25
From: Stormy Roentgen
I don't need you to make anything right and remove negs from Fem, babe. This thread alone is enough to put a smile on my face, and for that, thank you! :D

Infact, this is one of two things I've seen in the past year that are proof of something. If someone wrongs you and you're patient enough, just sit back and relax, and you'll see them get theirs in the end. It's pretty sweet really. I'm sorry for enjoying this too much. I've been drinking a bit. I'll shut up now. hehe

yeah.... shut up..... but its okay cause your going under slowly have fun :D
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
02-03-2005 18:35
From: Stormy Roentgen


You may recall a few weeks ago, the day the economical patch went in and ratings went up to $L25 per, I went to Mexicantown and removed the negs from each person I could find.... I know both you and Brianna Thorn got negs removed, and a message telling you I removed them. I thought perhaps it being the day the prices increased would in itself be a nice gesture. I thought maybe there might be a nice guy in there somewhere and I'd get as much as a "hey thanks :) " but no such thing. Oh well, no biggie.


If the vendors in MexicanTown did not hear a peep out of Mex before or even after he sold the sim without any warning, it's not shocking that he didn't bother to thank you. I had always had a good, though limited experience with him, until the point where he just sold off a sim without any warning. It was certainly his to sell, but a professional person would at least have the courtesy to inform the vendors what was going on. Thankfully it worked out well, as Blue Burke is an incredible sim owner - but the experience did leave a bad impression - and this thread does little to dispel that.
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Zuzi Martinez
goth dachshund
Join date: 4 Sep 2004
Posts: 1,860
02-03-2005 19:08
calling someone a bitch breaks at least 2 of the "Big 6" community standards. mature or pg doesn't even come into it. if you were in a mature sim and said "editting is a bitch" then cool. if you say "you're a bitch" anywhere than according to the rules you deserve what you got.
Lynn Lippmann
Toe Jammer
Join date: 12 Jun 2003
Posts: 793
02-03-2005 19:32
From: Pete Fats
Hi doe.


Hi Petey. Be my biotch? I could dress you and Talen as triplets.
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Stormy Roentgen
Prim Putter Togetherer
Join date: 25 May 2004
Posts: 342
02-03-2005 19:33
Maybe it's just me, but if I "had a fight with scripted objects" which ended up scattered over 2 sims all over everyone else's property, I'd not only expect some negs from them, but I'd be embarrassed. Well actually I wouldn't even do that to begin with because of the fact it'd spread litter on others' property, but maybe that's just the difference between us. I certainly wouldn't respond with "Bitch" knowing full well I'd littered everyone's property in the surrounding sims. You owned a sim with a mall, but ever try owning one in a public sim and clean up trash everyday? Autoreturn doesn't make tenants happy because they don't want to have to be in your group to rent a stall. Your huge scripted garbage was actually covering stalls, beating the sides of the mall... it was large and everywhere. I negged you in one category which was no big deal and perfectly suiting. I woke up everyday to garbage on the property but yours took the cake. Your reaction was abusive and stunning to say the least. You deserve whatever you've gotten. If anyone is to be felt sorry for, it's the poor girl who was stupid enough to deal with you long enough to have this issue which lead to your suspension.
Lynn Lippmann
Toe Jammer
Join date: 12 Jun 2003
Posts: 793
02-03-2005 19:34
From: Cristiano Midnight
Talen I am curious how calling someone a name here versus in world is any more tolerable? What is the distinction?


Cris, be my biotch and I'll buy you hoopie hair to wear.

:)
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Marker Dinova
I eat yellow paperclips.
Join date: 13 Sep 2004
Posts: 608
Is it me...
02-03-2005 19:35
Or does every new post mex puts out some in smaller sized fonts? I had to wear my prescription glasses on the last two..
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The difference between me and you = you - me.

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I never thought we were so similar :eek:
Baby Thorn
doh rae me me me me
Join date: 21 Apr 2004
Posts: 73
Got caught huh?
02-03-2005 20:07
For as many as you called me a skank and a bitch I'd be surprised they banned you for just that. Maybe they found out YOUR the minor at 17 (or so your in game child says). Or is that a lie just like why you got banned...?

Get what you give....

Btw Mex is known for harrassment, even 3 months after a break up and I have the IM for proof of it...
Burke Prefect
Cafe Owner, Superhero
Join date: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,785
02-03-2005 20:16
I'm guess mex has browser size issues or something. I know feel like I lost a couple of IQ points listening to the whole argument.
Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
02-03-2005 20:24
From: Lynn Lippmann
Cris, be my biotch and I'll buy you hoopie hair to wear.

:)


Yay! Me loves the +3 Hoochie Hair Clubbers!
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
02-03-2005 23:11
From: Torley Torgeson
EWWW EWWW EWWW!

Those are on my list of "melting" scenes, right next to the Wicked Witch in the Wizard o' Oz... yeah, in Robocop, it was that crim who got dumped into the radioactive waste and then howled out, "HELLLP ME!!!" and in The Rock, it was VX nerve gas.



Check out the end of the movie 'The Devil's Rain'. Almost EVERYBODY melts in that one.
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
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02-03-2005 23:15
From: Mex Thorn
But okay this thread has gone all over and far from what I wanted. Look I got suspendeed for calling someone a bitch. What will happen when you call someone a bitch and they use it agenst you? :eek: And about the restrant thing.... NO! LOL you make me sound like a little kid I know what the word means and how it can be used. So would you go to a restrant and call you waitress a bitch? HELL NO! So dont think that I would. C'mon people we are adults lets think like adults even though some arnt as mature as others even if im half way in the pool with the less fortunite less mature few. Bottom line..... Lindens have childlike rules some like them and some don't. So im gonna become an anarkist avie :cool:


You aren't a little kid. You sure? You sound like a minor to me. Oh, I should have read your entire post. A little MORE than half-way I think, but maybe enough suspensions will cure that. ;)
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
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02-03-2005 23:18
From: Mex Thorn
Because I know the person that I called and bitch and they asked for it. Talen you shouldnt comment if you dont understand what happened. Read some of my posts.
And I bet you have called someone a bitch when they asked for it don't say you haven't cause everyone has.


Odd, I have NEVER heard ANYONE in RL say: 'Please call me a bitch.'
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
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02-03-2005 23:20
From: Prokofy Neva
Wow. Please tell me this isn't true. Please tell me that you can't get suspended for calling someone a bitch in this game, like MOMI and TSO. Please please please.

I think the answer is: you can't. I don't think a Linden flew by, heard you calling someone a bitch, and said "You're out."

Instead, what happened is somebody you were in a drama and an argument with reported on you. And THAT is the problem, that there are people in this game whose real and virtual lives are so miserable that they have to call out the dogs on someone over a silly thing like being called a bitch, just to have a sense of power. Sheesh. That sucks. I wondered why all your houses and businesses were so quiet the last few days. That is just not fair, and yet another reason why we need to fire the Gods here...

But...dude...Seriously, call me a bitch, heck I *am* a bitch, but...could you look into taking that seriously ugly yellow THANG out of the sky in Cayuga? I'm going to hold my tongue about your huge red building with giant legs thrust into the river canyon -- yes, I'm not going to even comment on that giant red box in the colour of the font you use here, inversely LARGE to a precise ratio as your font here is *weeny tiny*. But...

...That thang that says 3rd Life and is some kind of giant mall floor or store or something with fashion or whatever in the sky? The, um, sky?

I mean, a big mofo thing like that does NOT belong in the sky -- and I mean, does NOT. It belongs on the ground where customers can see it and buy stuff -- I think, but that's just me.

Since you are not trying to sell the land underneath it through an extortionist practice like *ahem* some other people I could mention in that exact same neighbourhood -- and you know who you are Rhymes-With-Prancin'-InDa-Sheets -- well, what's up?

Could I help you find a nice commercial lot for rent or sale very reasonably priced with high traffic where you could put that yellow THANG? The reason I ask, is that this guy wanted to rent my land near the yellow THANG but he wondered, like, what is that yellow THANG?


Profky, you bitch! (You DID ask for it.) :)
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Devlin Gallant
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02-03-2005 23:31
After reading the entire thread, I have decided the original poster IS a minor. He may be over 18, but he is definately a minor.
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