Is Second Life Mature or PG?

I dont' mean this as a personal attack. So please don't take it that way. I don't have any problem with you calling anyone a bitch.

But the truth is, you pissed someone off and you got your card pulled.

Is it possible that the person who reported you was being an dumbass, manipulative bitch? Fuckin'-a-right it is possible.

But.... ya know.... that's the way it goes sometimes. See ya when yer time's up.

Edit: I really believe we need to preserve the right to report people and have stuff done about their actions. Sometimes we might end up on the wrong side of that deal. But we have to be able to draw a line somewhere.

You can't have the same freedoms in SL because SL is privately owned and they make the rules. The fact that you said bitch probably had nothing to do with it it sounds like you got a vacation for harrassment.

SL is actually XXX. You just have to keep it on the downlow.

As one of the many people you've probably called "bitch" in your SL days, I can say from experience that you handle conflicts in anything but a mature manner. It's funny you should say we should be allowed to handle our conflicts like adults, because that's not at all how you handle them. Calling everyone who pisses you off a "bitch" is by no means a mature way of resolving anything.

Disclaimer: I am not the person involved in his current issues. I have dealt with him months before now.

I think it makes sense to have PG and mature sims. No one is forced to buy land in PG areas -- PG sims are in essence lightly-zoned communities that you can choose to visit or not. To get suspended for the word "bitch" does seem like a bit much, but Mike's post is right on target I think.

You should be able to say "bitch" as often as you want in private IMs and no one should bother you... as long as the person on the other end is fine with the conversation. If you repeatedly IM someone calling them a bitch, then that would be hassling and one would expect an abuse report.

(Note: I am not saying this is what you did -- I am just walking through the hypotheticals).

There is a distinction between PG/Mature, which defines what is publically said/shown, and the actual treatment of someone, which can lead to an abuse report.

Total tangent from your point Stormy, but I always laugh at the "behave like an adult" line. Of course when we say it, we all mean "behave like an **idealized** adult", but really most adults act like normal human beings... i.e. asses half the time.

Well I suppose my point is, from my own experience dealing with Mex, it's not a surprise he's been suspended for harrassment. Harrassment is how he handles things. I doubt he was suspended simply for saying the word "bitch." If that were the case we'd likely be missing 1/2 the SL population atleast.

i find this entire complaint just plain funny. you knew the rules when you started playing the game. i am sure that was not your first complaint...and i can hedge a winning bet that it won't be your last. the bottom line is, there are rules in everything that you do....if you want to play, you follow them and play happily ever after...you break them then you can play vicariously through the forums as you wait your sentence out. if the rules of the game bother you that much...cancel you subscription...but don't whine after you finally get what you basically asked for...and for record "bitch" is a curse word when used in the context that you used it in...don't believe me...walk up to a woman and call her a bitch and see if you don't get "bitch-slapped"

Personally, in any place where I have had administrative power I have always believed no one should ever be punished for insulting someone else during an argument. When someone calls you a bitch in real life they don't get arrested(save maybe 1 out of 100,000 times). It's niave to think human beings can all get along in a big happy family.

Now, where I usually draw the line is harassment. If someone on an IRC channel or Forum offends someone my general suggestion is to ignore/block said user. This is a little trickier on forums -- since posts can't be "blocked".. but in SL you have the mute option.

NOW, if somone feels its their duty to constantly find ways to remind people about his or her bitchitude then I have a problem, interject/ban/do whatever. Frankly the whole abuse report system is bullshit. Someone can be harassing you/pushgunning you and when you pushgun em back -- BAMF, BANNED. Now you didn't report em. Why? You wanted to be somewhat "cool" about it.

Now, I don't have an easy answer for situations like that. The Linden's are probably busy enough with abuse reports... But foul langauge/insults? Pfft. Mute the bastard and be done with it.

You didn't simply use adult language (the fact you purposely try to shift the balance of the issue on the freedom of using adult language is the first proof or your guilt), you insulted someone, and yes, this is part of what is called harrassment, the fact that it's "adult language" is completely secodary.
Maybe next time you will learn to cope with conflict in a mature way (and no, this doesn't mean using mature rated language), so you won't get suspended.

PS: It would be nice if you wrote your post in a decently readable font.

Not to take sides or anything but "bitch" is allowable under the rules of "PG". It can, in some uses of the word it can be used in "G" ratinngs. In case you haven't watched TV in the last 10 years, "bitch" is as prevelent as "hell" and "damn" and in reality, all it means is female dog.

On the other hand, it doesn't matter what sim you are in, any sort of verbal attack can be grounds for an abuse report. Doesn't have to be vulgar in the least.

Sure but being suspended for saying "You are an insignificant speck of interstellar dust" would be hysterical.

I agree with Shiryu. The word "bitch" wasn't the issue. On a sidenote: use of the word "retarded" isn't helping your argument about adult behavior any

Alien invasion?

Ratings creep may just very well strike again.

Heck, I'm reminded of that scene in Poltergeist where the dude's face melts off. And THAT was PG?! That's an example. I bet posting screencaps of that wouldn't go over well -- nor do I recommend it. Seriously.

That eyestrain-inducing font he's using isn't helping any, either.

Aimee has a headache

Mex, if you are going to be all badass calling some chickie a bitch, why don't you stay in badass mode and take the punishment like a man. Show us all that nothing bothers you.

But if you are going to cry and appeal to us when you get punished for something you admitted was wrong, maybe you should be working on a personae that can earn our sympathy. A kinder, gentler personae. One that doesn't call people "bitch".

Ewww face melting. Made me think of Robocop, I think it was, when the guy falls into acid or something and then melts. Or like, The Rock, where some guy gets hit by a poison bomb and HIS face melts.

Not in SL. I know of people who've had groups deleted because they had the word 'bitch' in the title. Personally, it wouldn't offend me, but it obviously offends the Lindens, and it's their world.
I can't comment on Mex's situation. He's always been nice to me when we've met... but then I was buying stuff

I'd suspend you for using tiny red fonts....but that's just me.

EWWW EWWW EWWW!

Those are on my list of "melting" scenes, right next to the Wicked Witch in the Wizard o' Oz... yeah, in Robocop, it was that crim who got dumped into the radioactive waste and then howled out, "HELLLP ME!!!" and in The Rock, it was VX nerve gas.

... and me