SL Forum Jury for Taco Rubio. Forum Jury decides fate.
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David Valentino
Nicely Wicked
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12-20-2004 13:30
From: Ferran Brodsky this is an official plea....
let these threads die, thanks. I'd like to read about some other drama instead...
How's that L$ value doin? any trolls wanna take that one back up? please? Awww..Ferran..it's kind of an interesting legal/TOS quandry (at least to me). The L$ is way more boring! 
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
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12-20-2004 13:59
From: Ferran Brodsky this is an official plea....
let these threads die, thanks. I'd like to read about some other drama instead...
How's that L$ value doin? any trolls wanna take that one back up? please? I think I am just about with you Ferran. Even *I* run out of passion. I need to find a Law & Order marathon to help return my brain to its natural vegetative state. DOINK DOINK! -aimee
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Ferran Brodsky
Better living through rum
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12-20-2004 14:04
From: Aimee Weber DOINK DOINK! remind me to drop you that wave file to go with that gesture hehehe
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
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12-20-2004 14:43
UGH. Ok let me make one last reply to answer David Valentino. I am only doing this because he is looking at this as an interesting legal/TOS issue rather than some kind of battle. Thanks David!  Here is how I would word the policy: "Users will not publically display mature content of another user without their consent."I know you instantly have concerns but I think I can set them at ease because there is no gray area in that rule that doesn't already have precedence in Linden TOS/CS. Consent Precedence exists in the current Harassment policy and in the aformentioned chatlog policy. Example, if you orbit me with a script, the only thing separating you from an abuse violation is my permission. How will the Lindens know I gave it? Whatever techniques Lindens currently use to determine consent for harassment and publishing of chat logs can also be used for my policy. What is "mature content?" Again, this is already defined in the CS, and the Lindens have to make judgement calls on this on a regular basis. I think this largely saves the use of SL snapshots as an SL feature. Depending on the context it MAY even permit panty shots in Taco's museum. This doesn't sound like tyranny to me, nor does it sound unenforcable. OK. Law & Order time. -aimee
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Ferran Brodsky
Better living through rum
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12-20-2004 14:49
From: Aimee Weber OK. Law & Order time. Oooohhhhhhh Yeah! =D
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
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12-20-2004 14:53
*plays the signature chimey gavel sound*
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Adohan Zephyr
Bang bang
Join date: 20 Sep 2004
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12-20-2004 15:51
If you has spent as much time making some pantys as you have making yourself a pussy we wouldn't have this problem.
Case dismissed.
P.s 18 of you are god-damn retards.
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Champie Jack
Registered User
Join date: 6 Dec 2003
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12-20-2004 16:13
From: Adohan Zephyr P.s 18 of you are god-damn retards. This hasn't really been a discussion about the application of TOS to the issue. What has really happened here is Activist Residents who WANT the TOS to incriminate Taco. The problem is that he has done nothing wrong according to TOS. Aimee nicely stated the language of a policy that WOULD incriminate Taco, IF it were part of the TOS. The problem is, no such policy exists. You can't rewrite the law to suit your needs, no matter how right you THINK you are. Champie INNOCENT
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Adohan Zephyr
Bang bang
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12-20-2004 16:14
From: Champie Jack This hasn't really been a discussion about the application of TOS to the issue. What has really happened here is Activist Residents who WANT the TOS to incriminate Taco. The problem is that he has done nothing wrong according to TOS.
Aimee nicely stated the language of a policy that WOULD incriminate Taco, IF it were part of the TOS. The problem is, no such policy exists.
You can't rewrite the law to suit your needs, no matter how right you THINK you are.
Champie 18 of you are still god damn retards
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Ilianexsi Sojourner
Chick with Horns
Join date: 11 Jul 2004
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12-20-2004 16:16
From: Adohan Zephyr If you has spent as much time making some pantys as you have making yourself a pussy we wouldn't have this problem. Oh, OK....so it's the female's fault for dressing in a sexy manner? Sounds to me (correct me if I'm wrong, please) like you're saying females are 'asking for it' by dressing in sexy/skimpy clothes and appearing in public so attired. Interesting to see that some asshat attitudes from RL have carried over into SL. From: Aimee Weber Here is how I would word the policy: "Users will not publically display mature content of another user without their consent." Sounds perfectly reasonable and easily enforceable to me. Don't know why people have a hard time with this 'consent' concept. I guess it's more fun to not get consent and wait for the fallout. It amazes me that so many people don't seem to think Taco's done anything wrong.... in my opinion, the problem is not that he took the pics, but that he didn't ask for permission to display them. Surely if he asked if it was OK to display them, he'd still be able to get a fair number of girls who wouldn't object.... or, is hearing them object and getting attention from it part of the game? I know, I'm just giving this issue more attention by adding another post.... but I had to throw in my two cents worth. This whole issue has really been getting me pissed off.
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Champie Jack
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12-20-2004 16:17
Maybe you misunderstood Adohan. I agrre that there are 18 retards.
I also think that the whole discussion has been stupid beyond belief.
My point is that anyone who thinks Perma-Ban is appropriate has their head way up their ass.
Champie
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Ilianexsi Sojourner
Chick with Horns
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12-20-2004 16:23
From: Adohan Zephyr 18 of you are still god damn retards Adohan, please don't continue to show your immaturity in this way. Believe it or not, people aren't wrong just because their opinion differs from yours. (I know that may be difficult for you to understand.) If you can't contribute anything intelligent to the discussion, if all you can do is call people 'retards' like you're an 8th grader (are you?) then maybe you should go back to whatever online chatrooms you lurk in and stay out of the forums.
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Champie Jack
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12-20-2004 16:27
the word retard is a fun word to use. It usually creates quite a stir. I think the simple sentence was itself a remark about how silly this witch hunt really is. And since so many want to rewrite the TOS to punish Taco, I think it's appropriate to mock this thread with "18 of you are god damned retards"
Champie
INNOCENT, and I think Taco deserves an apolgy from 18 retards
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Adohan Zephyr
Bang bang
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12-20-2004 16:28
From: Champie Jack I also think that the whole discussion has been stupid beyond belief.
I like you.
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Adohan Zephyr
Bang bang
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12-20-2004 16:29
Oh My God Some Guy Took Screen Shots Of Me In Counterstrike Ban Him!!
Edit: there are now 19 retards
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Ryen Jade
This is a takeover!
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12-20-2004 16:33
voted Comedy "Perma Ban" option.
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From: Korg Stygian Between you, Ryen the twerp and Ardith, there's little to change my opinion here.. rather you have reinforced it each in your own ways IM A TWERP, IM A TWERP!  Whats a twerp? 
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
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12-20-2004 16:38
From: Adohan Zephyr Oh My God Some Guy Took Screen Shots Of Me In Counterstrike Ban Him!!
Edit: there are now 19 retards hmmm, the people who object to this kind of behavior are "retards" and not the guy who gets his jollies taking panty shots of avatars? mmmmkay.
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Adohan Zephyr
Bang bang
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12-20-2004 16:41
From: Chip Midnight hmmm, the people who object to this kind of behavior are "retards" and not the guy who gets his jollies taking panty shots of avatars? mmmmkay. ITS A GOD DAMN AVATAR
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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12-20-2004 16:41
From: Chip Midnight hmmm, the people who object to this kind of behavior are "retards" and not the guy who gets his jollies taking panty shots of avatars? mmmmkay. I am not surprised those in support of upskirt dwell gathering schemes, or *art*, see no issue with calling people 'retards' because of their opinions. Who would have thought?!!
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Ferran Brodsky
Better living through rum
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12-20-2004 16:43
Ya know, I really like white fudge oreos..
Whatever happened to Big League Chew? do they still make that stuff?
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Adohan Zephyr
Bang bang
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12-20-2004 16:44
From: Ferran Brodsky Ya know, I really like white fudge oreos..
Whatever happened to Big League Chew? do they still make that stuff? Persoally I like reeses peanut butter cups
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
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12-20-2004 16:45
hehe, my thoughts exactly Nolan. I guess I'm the 20th retard. Woot!
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Adohan Zephyr
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12-20-2004 16:47
From: Chip Midnight hehe, my thoughts exactly Nolan. I guess I'm the 20th retard. Woot! So.. You want to permanatly ban a member who paid $10 because he took screenshots. gg nextmap.
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Nolan Nash
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12-20-2004 16:47
From: Ferran Brodsky Ya know, I really like white fudge oreos..
Whatever happened to Big League Chew? do they still make that stuff? Looks "Big League" to me...  
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Nolan Nash
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12-20-2004 16:48
From: Adohan Zephyr So.. You want to permanatly ban a member who paid $10 because he took screenshots.
gg nextmap. Not "screenshots, "art" remember?
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