Disturbing encounter in SL with racism and threats

What part did I not respond to? You deleted it so fast I may have missed something.. I am sure MSo would have been thrilled to see the things you had to say about him and I.

I didn't say anything bad about Mso, as he is a wonderful person. I said that he is the one who told me about the one prim dance machine and the circumstances surrounding it, and also about having been warned in advance of working with you too. He is a great, straightforward person and a talented scripter. You on the other hand..

Oh he was also warned in advance about working with me? that is so damn amusing .. as I said I never done business with anyone else.

and what are you talented at Cris? hmm? Every reply from you is nothing more then , name calling, temper tantrums, and lies.

His words, not mine. Someone does not have to do business with you to know what a generally nasty person you are, so imagine that might have been the warning. However, not having done business with anyone else, then you scripted everything else yourself? I believe you said in the past you purchased those scripts.

Let's see, Sensual, I have been a mentor and instructor, I have builds in 5 sims, I can also script (all of the vending machines that are in use by Taeja, as well as my own displays except my animation machines were scripted by me), and contrary to nonsensical statements you have made in the past, I am also talented in Poser. I also programmed portions of my forums, knowledge base, and other portions of my site, and work professionally in the software industry. So there are just some of my talents. I could not begin to be as talented at lying as you are, it has obviously taken you years to perfect that act.

Sensual, my tango queen , you are like me in some ways, but in others not. I would never dare tell a friend who they should or should not be friends with. I lived with that too much. But I also will not let friends of my own talk about others of my dear friends so horridly in front of me. I consider Cristiano my best friend (outside my husband). Going on 3 years now. Taeja is is girlfriend, and that I respect and understand, I have my own family. But you have to understand, I know Cris better than you. In ways that most do not. I trust his word without question. Let that be my fault. But that is who I am. Cris is not this person you claim him to be. Nothing you could ever say would make me think such. Without question I take his word above others. Well, I still question and he doesn't know.. hehe... but seriously... Sens. This thing between you and Cris, I cannot trace it back to anything but business related. And trust me, I've bitched at him about being competitive before too. He has no business sense when it come to friends. He is no business man, nor is he social. Hell, if it were not for me he would be hiding out in his hotel.

My hope is that you two get past this. I hate to lose either of you. As I believe much of this anomosity stems from crap that should not have existed. In the end though. If you make me choose Sensual. I will choose Cris. I do not blindly follow anyone. But I stand by my close friends. And I do not accept friends that make me choose. I am sure you understand.

Purchasing scripts and being a business partner are totally different. I bet you ownership to a private island I can get a list of at least 5 times longer than the people that dislike me (if not more) of people that adore me, KNOW me, and know that I am not a nasty person.

If you are not a nasty person, then why do you act that way, honestly? Hell I even really wanted to like you, and did for a time. It just seems that being friends with you means you can treat someone however you want to, and they are never supposed to take it personally. Strange definition of friendship in my book.

Did you check immediately how many prims his large build had? How did you know how large? Maybe was only less than 5 huge darn build.

Did you check how many prims you had left and that freaked you out?? You know how we count those darn prims!!!



No No No, sorry Cristiano, I am just kidding a bit to make you laugh a bit after going thru that.... He didn't have a right to insult you in that way.... He needed to leave your property, he didn't ask for permission or asked you at least if that was your land.... And then calling you names? Wow!!

Some people!!!!!!!

I wish you tell us his name... really.... Might help others

First off , I would not make anyone chose one person over another... but I will not silence myself or pretend t agree with someone for the sake of our friendship. I have not said anything untrue and I stand by my feelings and statements, if that makes you decide not to be a friend of mine, then I wish you the best.

How are YOU, NOT a nasty person? You criticize everyone and lie so much, I dont get it...and if you can not handle honesty then no I would not be a very good friend to you.
to each thier won.

Ooops,

I didn't realize my post ended in the middle of a discussion between two... sowwy...

I wish we can all get along

is so easy to insult here in SL and hate each other, and step on each others hearts and souls, and mind.... is so sad...

I talk for experience.... you can ask my SL ex.... blah!

Sensual, you resort to even lying about lying, which is hilarious to me. Again, you seem to think you can so whatever you want to someone, no matter how they feel about it, and that is just being honest. No wonder you end up losing friends all the time.

What friends did I lose?

I am not going to drag them into this publicly, as I said, your reputation preceeds you. You know what? I don't want to keep doing this. Not just here, but in all threads, I am honestly sick of sniping with you. I will not reply to you any more, it's not worth the aggravation, as it gets nowhere. Say what you want, I don't care. Happy Holidays.

For the record Cris, i have not lost any friends, so your little circle of drama and rumors can continue to think what you want about me. But before you go on a rampage feeling sorry for yourself or criticizing others take a damn good look in the mirror.

For the record I don't really care for Sens, and I believe it's mutual . But what ever else she is, she is stuborn and believes she's right. You will not convince her otherwise, and while I may dissagree with her, I have to respect that a little to be "honest" .

If this fighting and posting bothers you, the only thing I can recommend is not responding to it. It is a very difficult thing to shuttup and keep your opinion to yourself. I'm failing partially as we speak . It's also not always a good thing. If you never speak up then you can't effect anything. at most you might call me agnostic, but, "God grant me the strength to change what I can, to accept what I cannot change and the wisdom to know the difference".

I'm not sure what I'm trying to point out. I suppose I just want people to consider more points of view than their own.

I don't think she believes anyone she has lost as a friend the way you mean it ever trully was a friend.

Another something I don't think you will be able to convince her otherwise on.

Anyway, it's once again mostly a matter of perspective.

LOL Rick, I can not deny or argue anything you said... I know we have a bit of disagreements in the past, and your silence is what always got to me most... sad to say but true... None the less you are an extremely smart and talented man, God has certainly blessed you in many ways.

right again... as I previously stated I dont cnsider someone I know nothing about or rarely talk to a friend. as far as my true friends, they are very true and special to me... and believe me, they know it.

No. And that is never something I could ask you could do Sens. But, you continue to riducule another very close friend of mine. And plainly. I believe you to be wrong. So, for a change, due to feeling forced. I'm going to take a stance. I shall no longer continue to be a friend of yours Sens if you make these accusations against Cris. I don't care what you say, I know they are out of business crap you two went through.

I'm so damn going to miss you Sens. But, I can't stand by and let someone talk so harshly about someone I know to be so much better than what you try to claim they are.

Ok. .. I'm off crying now... fuck

I am truley sorry if I have hurt you Pen, you are a great person and I commend you for standing by your friend, but at the same time I am a bit shocked... nothing I have said was untrue and I thought you were someone that didnt like to get in the middle of things, I assure you my prblems with Cris is nothing to do with business... I think he is a mean person that likes to take stabs at people when it makes him look good and then cry when someone "hurts" him, a person can not have thier cake and eat it too.. If you dont remember Pen, before Cris and I did business together, I disliked him and stood up to him many times when he bashed people... nothing has changed... I tried to see the other side of him that you and others do, and I just can't... he is not a person I would praise nor look up to, ever.

Cristiano, I understand exactly where you are coming from and how you are feeling. I'm glad you posted your experience here, you needed to. It would've been far worse for you to sit still and keep your mouth shut about this. Keeping quiet about it would've only given the bigot permission to keep harassing others and tell him it's okay for him to say those things and let him know he can get away with it. (Kind of reminds of the priests who get away with molesting boys for years because they boys are too scared to speak up, or women who are raped and never tell for fear of public repercussions). I know you don't need me to tell you that, lol, I'm saying it for the hopeful enlightenment of the others in this thread who are quite obviously just out to tear you down for whatever personal reasons and are using your post as an excuse to project onto you their own personal misery and unhappiness in their lives, as was the bigot who verbally attacked and threatened you. I just looooove it when people open their mouths at times like this with the intent to destroy and make you feel small, and don't see that they are only succeeding in showing everyone who they really are and how they really feel about themselves. I've read every single post in this thread from beginning to end, and you, Cristiano, are an honorable, wonderful human being who stood up for himself and I'm damned impressed by all that you have posted here. You showing that you aren't going to take anyone's personal BS is quite brave in a forum where you are open to attack at any moment (as has been made apparent in this thread, lol) I've been sitting here for the last 30 minutes reading all of this, either laughing at the complete idiocy of some of these posts (we know which ones those are! *wink, wink, nudge, nudge*) and my mouth truly agape at those who are tearing you down, all the while making it clear they are guilty of what they are accusing you of. I just wanted to be one of the many more who show that we support how you have handled this entire situation and am truly sorry that such stupidity still exists. Because of people like you, I firmly believe the ignorant will eventually see the light and join the rest of us who know how to treat others with respect or they will slither off into the bitter darkness, all the while yelling how they don't care if they become publicly crucified for what they say because they know they are right and the rest of us are wrong. I'm just smiling a bigass smile thinking about it. Hat's off to you, Cris, and the others here who "get it".
Anyone who says they have had actual racial slurs and/or violence done against them and in the same breath says it's better to keep your mouth shut and not call attention to it here in this forum is either full of shit and lying to try to prove their meager, feeble point or the epitomy of hypocrisy. If you really have had these horrible things done to you, yet still believe that Cris simply sharing his experience here is wrong or attention-getting, you need to be examining yourself and your reasons for opening your mouth about it instead of tearing him down. You are a hypocrite to open your mouth and telling him to shut his. It's called "projection"; Google it and see if the foo shits.
I'm grateful for forums like this, it shows which unstable people I should avoid in SL and who are worth getting to know better, hee hee.
Much peace & serenity to all!

Oh
My
God!

I may be a fag, but I'm a 6-2 210# fag that can kick some serious ass. This is just outrageous. You have consistently spoken up in favor of the oppressed, Cris. I am glad to see so many others are now coming to your side.

You know I got your back, C.

I'm sorry, I got caught up in a side dispute and ignored the threads original topic.

Cris, I hate any form of racism beyond words as I really hope most people do. As for the others. anonymity should not be an option for them. Slightly off topic but related. I've met a lot of people who believe not being racist means ignoring differences. If that's all they can manage then I suppose it's better than this form of racism. My personal opinion (and I didn't start out this way) is that not being racist is taking each person on a case by case basis and instead of ignoring differences, ignore... stereotypes I suppose is the word. My best friend is hispanic and we're very different. She cooks better, cleans better, studies harder, pays bills faster, and can stay out in the sun longer than I can . Her dad is an extremely successful businessman up in seattle. Her mother was a nurse for 30 years. but because of the way she looks I've heard people say nasty things about her, or just be condescending. It's sad, it hurts, it's sick, it's wrong, it's... evil.

The good news is I think people are headed in the right direction. This is definatly something that should always be brought into the open. I think, have to believe, that even most of these people know their wrong and the reason they're so angry is because they're ashamed of it. Wishful thinking maybe but the more people like you post Cris the more it can change.

Here's to changing the world.