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Lecktor Hannibal
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05-11-2005 14:48
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Yo mama?

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Pendari Lorentz
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05-11-2005 14:57
From: Dana Unsung
I just wanted to state again for those who are retarded. I will happily admit what account is or is not mine. Angel Leviathan is my account. The account running around by the name of Violet Manhattan giving mass negs with no reason at all is NOT mine. I do give out neg rates in situations where people deserve it due to malicious actions or statements against me or my business.<snip>.


Honestly, I have to step in and say I believe this. :eek: hehe.. There is NO love lost between myself and Angel (and anyone who has known me knows this to be true.. ). But I can at least be truthful enough to admit that Angel *always* has reasons for her Negs. They may be disputable.. one may think she is off her rocker.. but one thing I have never seen is her just do "fly by negs just for standing there" And really never a target of newbies either. Not with herself.. not with her alts. Not that I've ever seen.

Just my thoughts..
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Lecktor Hannibal
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05-11-2005 14:59
I believe her also. I cannot believe that people haven't figured it out yet as to who it actually is. :(
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Nolan Nash
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05-11-2005 15:00
From: Pendari Lorentz
Honestly, I have to step in and say I believe this. :eek: hehe.. There is NO love lost between myself and Angel (and anyone who has known me knows this to be true.. ). But I can at least be truthful enough to admit that Angel *always* has reasons for her Negs. They may be disputable.. one may think she is off her rocker.. but one thing I have never seen is her just do "fly by negs just for standing there" And really never a target of newbies either. Not with herself.. not with her alts. Not that I've ever seen.

Just my thoughts..

I saw her flyby neg a bunch of folks at the Aqua Mall one night last year. Star being among them. What was Star doing? Shopping.
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Lo Jacobs
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05-11-2005 15:03
From: Lecktor Hannibal
I believe her also. I cannot believe that people haven't figured it out yet as to who it actually is. :(


I think I know who you mean Leck, but I've seen Miss Anti-Av Sex and the color Purple hanging out together in the WA. Hard to believe they're one and the same. Good guess though :D
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Lecktor Hannibal
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05-11-2005 15:05
From: Lo Jacobs
I think I know who you mean Leck, but I've seen Miss Anti-Av Sex and the color Purple hanging out together in the WA. Hard to believe they're one and the same. Good guess though :D

LOL, I won't reveal my alter AV here but I do that all the time :D Two computers on a router is a loverly thang :p
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Pendari Lorentz
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05-11-2005 15:06
From: Nolan Nash
I saw her flyby neg a bunch of folks at the Aqua Mall one night last year. Star being among them. What was Star doing? Shopping.


True Nolan. But that *was* in a protest of Angel's.

Hmm.. Hard to explain. But from what I know, Violet will just neg someone totally unrelated to any situation she is pissed with. Like literally they could have just stepped off the "birth" pad.

That aqua mall situation, Angel was trying to make customers think about where they were shopping.. who they were doing business with.. Or something to that affect. She had an agenda basically..

NO! I don't think Angel was right. But honestly, at least all of her negs tied into something that made some kind of argument.

Nothing so random as it seems to be with Violet. That is my point.


And Leck.. PM me with your guess.. please? hehehe I'm clueless as to who it *could* be. :p
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Lo Jacobs
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05-11-2005 15:08
From: Lecktor Hannibal
LOL, I won't reveal my alter AV here but I do that all the time :D Two computers on a router is a loverly thang :p


It's possible ....

At the time it didn't look like it though ... :)
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David Valentino
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05-11-2005 15:12
Well..I knew who you were hinting at Leck..but didn't think she's slipped that far off the deep end. But who knows. SL, like the real world, is a strange place...
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05-11-2005 16:07
From: Dana Unsung
Angel Leviathan is my account. The account running around by the name of Violet Manhattan giving mass negs with no reason at all is NOT mine. I do give out neg rates in situations where people deserve it due to malicious actions or statements against me or my business.


OK, then, Dana/Angel, perhaps you would be good enough to clue me in as to why you accosted my friend and neg rated him three times each? It certainly couldn't be because of him, because he was charming and friendly when you first appeared at his house. In addition to which, you said you were giving him the neg rates I "deserved."

And since I don't know you from Adam, and don't remember any conversation which involved any malicious actions or statements against you or your business (which I don't even know what it IS), maybe you would like to tell me what this hideous crime was that caused you to neg rate my friend, the new player? Out of the blue? Along with 3-4 of your buddies, or perhaps yourselves? And laugh at him? And give him a rotten image of the game?

I'm curious. My memory isn't perfect at remembering every little thing I ever said about anything anywhere, so, what was it? Cause you know, I don't even KNOW you.

Man, this is really a sterling person, all right . . .

coco
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05-11-2005 16:41
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OK, then, Dana/Angel, perhaps you would be good enough to clue me in as to why you accosted my friend and neg rated him three times each? It certainly couldn't be because of him, because he was charming and friendly when you first appeared at his house. In addition to which, you said you were giving him the neg rates I "deserved."

And since I don't know you from Adam, and don't remember any conversation which involved any malicious actions or statements against you or your business (which I don't even know what it IS), maybe you would like to tell me what this hideous crime was that caused you to neg rate my friend, the new player? Out of the blue? Along with 3-4 of your buddies, or perhaps yourselves? And laugh at him? And give him a rotten image of the game?

I'm curious. My memory isn't perfect at remembering every little thing I ever said about anything anywhere, so, what was it? Cause you know, I don't even KNOW you.

Man, this is really a sterling person, all right . . .

coco




I neg rated your friend? I don't know. Maybe some more info? Who is this friend? Who are you? I don't neg rate people I don't know.
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05-11-2005 16:50
From: Pendari Lorentz
True Nolan. But that *was* in a protest of Angel's.

Hmm.. Hard to explain. But from what I know, Violet will just neg someone totally unrelated to any situation she is pissed with. Like literally they could have just stepped off the "birth" pad.

That aqua mall situation, Angel was trying to make customers think about where they were shopping.. who they were doing business with.. Or something to that affect. She had an agenda basically..

NO! I don't think Angel was right. But honestly, at least all of her negs tied into something that made some kind of argument.

Nothing so random as it seems to be with Violet. That is my point.


And Leck.. PM me with your guess.. please? hehehe I'm clueless as to who it *could* be. :p


The Aqua mall situation is where I found that the owner of said mall was doing some very low down business concerning the mall's retailers. I at the time and admittedly wrongly neg rated some of the more supportive retailers one morning at the mall in question. Maybe 6 people with up to 3 negs each. I left the area and did not return. About 10 minutes later an avatar named by most accounts 'Angel' 'something?' showed up in the area and proceeded to neg rate almost every retailer in the mall. In the following hysteria, driven by the mall owner, MANY people decided I neg rated them. Most were simply wrong. In the past 12 months I have had several former retailers and associates of this mall's owner approach me and let me know that they found my accusations then to be true.












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Briana Dawson
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05-11-2005 16:54
From: Dana Unsung
The Aqua mall situation is where I found that the owner of said mall was doing some very low down business concerning the mall's retailers. I at the time and admittedly wrongly neg rated some of the more supportive retailers one morning at the mall in question. Maybe 6 people with up to 3 negs each. I left the area and did not return. About 10 minutes later an avatar named by most accounts 'Angel' 'something?' showed up in the area and proceeded to neg rate almost every retailer in the mall. In the following hysteria, driven by the mall owner, MANY people decided I neg rated them. Most were simply wrong. In the past 12 months I have had several former retailers and associates of this mall's owner approach me and let me know that they found my accusations then to be true.


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Cocoanut Koala
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05-11-2005 17:00
Well, I don't know what a cybervestite is, but she is very definitely a liar.

How many Angel Leviathan's can there be?

coco
Briana Dawson
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05-11-2005 17:03
From: Cocoanut Koala
Well, I don't know what a cybervestite is, but she is very definitely a liar.
coco


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Briana Dawson
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05-11-2005 17:06
What is her business?

coco
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05-11-2005 17:26
From: Briana Dawson
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You are the root of so much woe in SL Briana. Someday people will see who the true enemies of our world are. You are a liar and a criminal. Your crimes here are massive to the point of mind boggling. Your deception with alts is famous and your skill at manipulation is acute as an instrument of social death. Remove your many masks and step into the light if you are not afraid of being blinded. Create instead of destroy. Build instead of bargain. Script instead of scripting wild tails from your many personalities. I am sick of your brand of deception and those who would be you. We don't have to adhere to your world because its not yours regardless of how many pics Philip has of you, regardless how many sims you own/owned, regardless of how many accounts you employ. You are less than nothing.

I wondered why after so long, what? 8 months? Why you would contact me just as I released Mgo. Now I know, now I understand, now I see for my veil is lifted.































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Artemis Fate
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05-11-2005 17:46
I might add that in addition to the Dana Unsung and Angel Leviathan alts there is also:

Archu Leviathan
Andy Uritsky

With Violet being a possibility, granted I don't have any proof of that just conjecture. But I would point out if you look at the Negs given of all 5 of these people, they're almost identical. As well as all the profiles have the same sort of one sentence pattern (save for the main of course, Angel Leviathan).

I'd also noticed (with no proof of this either besides my word) that when the group neg ratings of a friend of mine started that Violet had logged off wheresa she had been on before it started. I could also point out that Violet and Angel don't ever seem to be on the boards at the same time. Also Angel responds to violets threads but not the other way around (why bother after all because then you'd just be getting in a conversation with your self).

Not to mention funding here, since 190 negs is no laughing matter financially, a 2 month old newbie would be hard pressed to come up with 5250L$ for neg rating, not to mention any clothing or objects she would buy (and by her profile picture she has bought something). Angel has plenty of money from having old time accounts where they gave bigger stipends as well as having a semi-successful store.

One thing a friend of mine pointed out as curious when she got group negged was that, Angel mentioned to her on one of her alts after the negging that she couldn't neg for more than 5 alts without breaking the rules and that's why she couldn't neg anymore, but since she had only negged with 4 of them, that begged the question to be asked, who's number 5? When she asked about this and pointed out Violet, she suddenly became a lot nicer and retracted all the neg ratings.

If anyone has some succinct proof otherwise i'd be willing to apologize for that, but until then i'd stand by my opinion on the matter.

Oh and thanks for the Negs Archu/Andy/Angel/Dana, but like i'd said earlier if you want to waste the money neg rating me that's fine, they don't mean anything to me personally.
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05-11-2005 18:00
That is the crew, Artemis, that neg-rated en masse my new friend, the new player, when they couldn't find me.

I guess I will just have to go to my grave wondering why.

coco

P.S. Yes, I was wondering why no one mentioned the financial aspects. Everybody keeps saying that they don't really mean anything, but I think they do mean something financially, especially to a new player such as my friend.

This sort of thing should not go on and is NOT good for the game.
Lo Jacobs
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05-11-2005 18:09
From: Cocoanut Koala
That is the crew, Artemis, that neg-rated en masse my new friend, the new player, when they couldn't find me.

I guess I will just have to go to my grave wondering why.

coco

P.S. Yes, I was wondering why no one mentioned the financial aspects. Everybody keeps saying that they don't really mean anything, but I think they do mean something financially, especially to a new player such as my friend.

This sort of thing should not go on and is NOT good for the game.


Coco, that was a pattern that happened to a friend of mine. Violet had already negged me, so she negged a friend of mine instead. Sounds too close for comfort.
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05-11-2005 18:11
Yes, well I still wonder WHO THE HECK this person is, and what I could possibly have ever done to her, lol.

coco
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05-11-2005 18:20
From: Cocoanut Koala
That is the crew, Artemis, that neg-rated en masse my new friend, the new player, when they couldn't find me.

I guess I will just have to go to my grave wondering why.

coco

P.S. Yes, I was wondering why no one mentioned the financial aspects. Everybody keeps saying that they don't really mean anything, but I think they do mean something financially, especially to a new player such as my friend.

This sort of thing should not go on and is NOT good for the game.


Well I mean not so much the financial aspects of people losing money on negs, I don't really even know how that works anymore. But the financial aspect of it costing 25L$ for each neg rate she gives, totally out to a price that's way more than a newbie should have. (Especially one who seems to generally spend all her time harrassing the general community).

I guess at this point there's a lot of reasons for Violet to be one of the Angel's infamous alts, but I haven't seen a whole lot of reasons from Dana that she's not.

Seems the way Violet rates is similar to Angel as well, that is if you can't find the person then neg rate their friends.

I don't think she's mentally ill, but i'm sure there's some reasons for all this that a psychologist would have to pry out.

Either way i'd say that there's not a WHOLE lot of people who neg rate with such reckless abandon in SL (actually only her not counting Violet since it's still under debate whether or not they're even different people), and there's a lot of similarities that would need to be taken into consideration.
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Briana Dawson
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05-11-2005 18:20
From: Dana Unsung
You are the root of so much woe in SL Briana. Someday people will see who the true enemies of our world are. You are a liar and a criminal. Your crimes here are massive to the point of mind boggling. Your deception with alts is famous and your skill at manipulation is acute as an instrument of social death. Remove your many masks and step into the light if you are not afraid of being blinded. Create instead of destroy. Build instead of bargain. Script instead of scripting wild tails from your many personalities. I am sick of your brand of deception and those who would be you. We don't have to adhere to your world because its not yours regardless of how many pics Philip has of you, regardless how many sims you own/owned, regardless of how many accounts you employ. You are less than nothing.

I wondered why after so long, what? 8 months? Why you would contact me just as I released Mgo. Now I know, now I understand, now I see for my veil is lifted.

I did not contact you. You contacted me and sent me an MGO which i might add I deleted.

You do have a flair for the dramatic oration.

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05-11-2005 18:36
From: Artemis Fate
I might add that in addition to the Dana Unsung and Angel Leviathan alts there is also:

Archu Leviathan
Andy Uritsky

With Violet being a possibility, granted I don't have any proof of that just conjecture. But I would point out if you look at the Negs given of all 5 of these people, they're almost identical. As well as all the profiles have the same sort of one sentence pattern (save for the main of course, Angel Leviathan).

I'd also noticed (with no proof of this either besides my word) that when the group neg ratings of a friend of mine started that Violet had logged off wheresa she had been on before it started. I could also point out that Violet and Angel don't ever seem to be on the boards at the same time. Also Angel responds to violets threads but not the other way around (why bother after all because then you'd just be getting in a conversation with your self).

Not to mention funding here, since 190 negs is no laughing matter financially, a 2 month old newbie would be hard pressed to come up with 5250L$ for neg rating, not to mention any clothing or objects she would buy (and by her profile picture she has bought something). Angel has plenty of money from having old time accounts where they gave bigger stipends as well as having a semi-successful store.

One thing a friend of mine pointed out as curious when she got group negged was that, Angel mentioned to her on one of her alts after the negging that she couldn't neg for more than 5 alts without breaking the rules and that's why she couldn't neg anymore, but since she had only negged with 4 of them, that begged the question to be asked, who's number 5? When she asked about this and pointed out Violet, she suddenly became a lot nicer and retracted all the neg ratings.

If anyone has some succinct proof otherwise i'd be willing to apologize for that, but until then i'd stand by my opinion on the matter.

Oh and thanks for the Negs Archu/Andy/Angel/Dana, but like i'd said earlier if you want to waste the money neg rating me that's fine, they don't mean anything to me personally.




I neg rated you after I contacted you in reference to an earlier post in this thread where you said this Violet person is me and explained to you that your post was incorrect and asked you for a retraction. You declined to respond to me and also declined to edit your post. I gave you the attention you seek. I neg rated you with my current alts. Those being the following.

Angel Leviathan - Me. Always has been me thru good times and bad. This account is old.

Archu Leviathan - For all intensive purposes this account is mine. Archu is the guise of a little girl and sometimes I use that avatar for privacy and also neg rates. This account is old.

Andy Uritsky - Andy was originally an information resource agent created to learn about some of the social clubs in SL. If I go as Angel nothing but drama erupts. Andy also makes a nice avatar for merchandise photography. I have used Andy for neg rating. Recent Account

Dana Unsung - Dana is a completely undeveloped avatar that has been used for forum posts and some neg rates. Recent Account

?? Glitterbuck - I forget. He was part of a batch made the same time as Andy and Dana specifically created to neg rate some people who had it coming. That account was dissolved. Recent Account - Dead

No other accounts.

Now at this point I have decided its a severe weakness to be associated with alot of neg rates so again for a time I will discontinue the practice with all accounts, no matter how painful. People in the past have imitated me thru "similar" action to pin crimes on me that I did not commit. This is the case in this instance I feel.

I understand how neg rates royally F%$k up your day. Thats why they are given, probably because at some point you F&%Ked up someone else's day. It's abuse in response to abuse. After a time some of us may lash out more aggressively than others. It's not right. None of it is but its just one big cycle and when some want to get off others are just hoping on. This place of ours has no clear history and games are played within our "game" and sometimes we share deeper emotions, ideas, and dreams and the games feel real and people can be hurt. There has to be a point where people move on and let go and teach the next generation of SLr that it can be different, but much like RL I doubt the path to that utpoian difference will ever be realized. I do know that I can withdraw as quickly as I can pounce and so I will for now, let it go.










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Artemis Fate
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05-11-2005 18:41
From: Dana Unsung
I neg rated you after I contacted you in reference to an earlier post in this thread where you said this Violet person is me and explained to you that your post was incorrect and asked you for a retraction. You declined to respond to me and also declined to edit your post. I gave you the attention you seek. I neg rated you with my current alts.


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