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Lo Jacobs
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05-11-2005 11:04
From: Ella Rockwell Although, I have run into Violet on occasion, I personally don’t know (in any sense of the word) her. But I think this conversation has gotten a little out of hand… First of all, I can’t believe some of you have taken it upon yourselves to diagnose her with a mental illness. Kris Ritter has addressed this issue perfectly so I feel no need to re- hash the issue. Secondly, who says she has no reason at all for negative rating someone? You may not like her answer but she obviously has a reason. For example: 1 negative rating in appearance…perhaps her reason is she doesn’t like the way you look. Lindens have given us these tools, whether we use them or not, it’s not up to us to decide she is doing something wrong if it isn’t breaking the ToS. As far as newbies, walking into the game and getting negative ratings – yes, slightly unfair but I don’t know if it is something to walk away from the game. I didn’t even know what a rating was for a couple days when I started. I honestly don’t believe people are walking away because of this (I want proof). If people did cancel their trial account because of this the are too sensitive to be well…living (rl or sl). Let’s face it folks, life is unfair, people are rude, it happens every day and yet some how we all seem to struggle through it. If a negative rating is the worst thing that happens to me in a day I should be grateful. In conclusion, I would like to hear from those of you that have had their second lives completely ruined by a negative rating (not your grandma’s girlfriend’s cousin’s friend). I am sure Lindens are doing their best to keep SL running smoothly but if you don’t report abuse (if you think it is abuse) then how are they to curb/fix this “problem.” I think I will become a lobbyist for Cletus Hatfield’s Sarcasm Button/Sensitivity Level Indicator ( /13/7c/45171/1.html) so I know which of you to look out for in the future. Actually, Ella, Violet just plain isn't a worthwhile person. I don't think she has a mental illness either, I just think that the size of her personality is smaller than the period at the end of this sentence. And if she neg rates anyone in my presence, I'm gonna say something. I don't give a shit if she's negged me 3 times already (and she has), this just takes away any "weapons" she has against me. Now I can be as rude about her as I like!
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Dianne Mechanique
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05-11-2005 11:05
From: katykiwi Moonflower So many threads posted about the Linden need for rating. Is there any part of the program worth keeping!? GET RID OF RATINGS! Even with the 6 month price increase fix, it is just abuse waiting to happen. Come on LL...what is the current purpose of rating? The purpose of rating is to be able to know when you meet an "asshat" or a "fucktard" (to use the standard forum expressions). This is valuabe to me and to many others as well. I still think if might be better if Linden simply published a sub-set of the stats that I assume they keep on avitars. Like when someone offers you a business deal it would be nice to look them up and find out that 45 people made complaints about them before or whatever. And looking at the problem in a wider sense, it is pretty clear that you are not going to get any kind of good social interaction in any game or artificial world without *some* kind of social controls (which ratings are a part of). In RL this is referred to as "laws & morals" or "reputations & community standing." Sometimes all are included under the blanket term of "civilisation" 
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Dana Unsung
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05-11-2005 11:12
From: Violet Manhattan Wow some of you have some wild crazy imaginations. Let me clear this one, first of all I do not neg rate any newbies. If I did please bring them to me because you are full of it. And I love how you all think I have 4 alts and neg rate. rofl are you kidding me. I think I am the fall woman for every person that has ever neg rated here. Oh and as for my mental illness, thanks for everyone being so concerned but the lithium and electric shock treatments don't work so well for me anymore. Thank you everone for analizing me it was very entertaining. They all think you are me and they think I am Angel. They are half right. Now stop this and please only neg rate those who have it coming. Some of us do things here besides cause anarchy, some of us work.
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Cletus Hatfield
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05-11-2005 11:14
From: Dianne Mechanique The purpose of rating is to be able to know when you meet an "asshat" or a "fucktard" (to use the standard forum expressions). This is valuabe to me and to many others as well. I still think if might be better if Linden simply published a sub-set of the stats that I assume they keep on avitars. Like when someone offers you a business deal it would be nice to look them up and find out that 45 people made complaints about them before or whatever. And looking at the problem in a wider sense, it is pretty clear that you are not going to get any kind of good social interaction in any game or artificial world without *some* kind of social controls (which ratings are a part of). In RL this is referred to as "laws & morals" or "reputations & community standing." Sometimes all are included under the blanket term of "civilisation"  First of all, is someones reputation really going to suffer based on one, two, or three negative ratings? Also, i prefer to rely on my own impressions of people. I've met dozens of people with thousands of positive ratings, who i would prefer to never see again, and i have yet to clutch at my wallet as someone with a few negatives walks by. I don't know. Maybe i'm retarded.
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Beau Perkins
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05-11-2005 11:15
Ok. I may be WAY off base here. But does anyone else find it strange that the only people defending Violet in this thread were born in Oct of 2004 and only have a few post on the forums?
Why does it smell like ALTs in here.
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David Valentino
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05-11-2005 11:21
From: Beau Perkins Ok. I may be WAY off base here. But does anyone else find it strange that the only people defending Violet in this thread were born in Oct of 2004 and only have a few post on the forums?
Why does it smell like ALTs in here. Well..I was thinking it..but didn't want to cast more henious and insidious accusations. After all..I'm one of those people who dare call others "mentally ill" instead of assholes or scum.
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05-11-2005 11:22
From: pandastrong Fairplay I'm hanging this on the bulletin board at the back of my classroom for my human relations class.  Thanks Pandastrong!
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Nolan Nash
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05-11-2005 11:24
From: David Valentino Well..I was thinking it..but didn't want to cast more henious and isidious accusations. After all..I'm one of those people who dare call others "mentally ill" instead of assholes or scum. Two thumbs up! It's amazing that some folks are so quick to trot out all kinds of highly derogatory epithets without blinking an eye, but one mention of mental illness sends them into a frenzy.
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Cletus Hatfield
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05-11-2005 11:25
From: Beau Perkins Ok. I may be WAY off base here. But does anyone else find it strange that the only people defending Violet in this thread were born in Oct of 2004 and only have a few post on the forums?
Why does it smell like ALTs in here. I agree, that is strange. I think everyone born in the month of october 2004 should be permanently banned from SL for being one of Violets alts. There is no way that multiple accounts could have been created in the same month, ALL by different people. Thats just insane! I mean, the month is only 31 days long! You should really apply to the FBI or something. Your detective skills could serve this country well. Plus, (edited) making it in positions of power is such a feel good story, to boot.
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Ella Rockwell
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05-11-2005 11:25
From: Beau Perkins Ok. I may be WAY off base here. But does anyone else find it strange that the only people defending Violet in this thread were born in Oct of 2004 and only have a few post on the forums?
Why does it smell like ALTs in here. UMMM Beau you are WAY off base...and you are confusing "defending" with "debating." I never said I approved what she did, I have never negative rated a soul. And this is probably the reason why I don't write MY OPINION in the forums because now I am OBVIOUSLY one of Violet's alts.
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05-11-2005 11:26
From: Ryla Twilight I'm not sure of mentally ill, but I do believe this person has some deep rooted psychological problems and should seek professional help. I see someone who throughout their life has been constantly berated, leading them to acquire a nasty inferiority complex. Because this person lacks the confidence to stand up and take action to those people in RL, her only outlet is to safely and anonymously fire back all this negativity onto people over the Internet who don't deserve it (much like she believed she didn't deserve the abuse that she received in RL). This person is also doing this because in RL, she was meant to feel like an unimportant nothing- Now she's trying to gain whatever fame, noteriety and attention she can, even if it's negative attention, and now is craving more by starting a thread about herself (Notice if you will that she even refers to herself as a 'queen'). My theory is based on the facts that she seems to dedicate most of her SL time to this, she dumps money to pay for more alts just to add more negative ratings, she compiles a catalog of people who disagreed with her on this thread to stalk them down to neg rate them, and now as Cocoanut Koala pointed out, this vendetta has now expanded to negrating even the friends of these people.
Yes, I do believe this person should be removed. This person hangs around the Wecome Area- the place where new players get their first impression of SL, and leaves one hell of a nasty first impression. If I was a new user, and this happened to me, I would likely think of SL as an unmoderated playground for a bunch of kiddie jerks and would have cancelled my trial account. As well, for old players (that could be shelling LL a good amount of $$$ per month for land tier fees) who might already be disgruntled with a lack of LL's disciplinary action in other cases, this might be the straw that breaks the camel's back and pushes them to terminate their account. This person is hurting the community by driving away potential new players and fed-up old players, and at the same time is hurting LL's wallet. I think you hit the nail on the head. I don't think theres one word I would disagree with, don't think thats ever happened to me on the forums before As far as I'm concerned anyone who takes pleasure in upsetting people has something wrong, I just don't understand it, really.. Great post Ryla 
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Beau Perkins
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05-11-2005 11:27
Just find it strange that you people with less than 5 post, on accounts created in October of 2004, chose this thread on this day to become vocal.
Stranger things have happend though.
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Lo Jacobs
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05-11-2005 11:27
I can vouch for it that neither Ella or Cletus is an alt.
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Lecktor Hannibal
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05-11-2005 11:28
I just want AV sex.
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David Valentino
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05-11-2005 11:30
From: Lecktor Hannibal I just want AV sex. I would have AV sex more often, but after we are done my partner always triple neg rates me 
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Kris Ritter
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05-11-2005 11:31
From: David Valentino I would have AV sex more often, but after we are done my partner always triple neg rates me  LOL Way to enhance your reputation with the ladies, David. 
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Dakota Callahan
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05-11-2005 11:33
From: David Valentino I would have AV sex more often, but after we are done my partner always triple neg rates me  I DID NOT! er, um... at least, I wouldn't, if we had... you know... 
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Ella Rockwell
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05-11-2005 11:35
From: Lo Jacobs I can vouch for it that neither Ella or Cletus is an alt. Thank you Lo! I knew that some of my friends would come through here.  Beau, I have better things to do than negative rate people at the welcome center. But for the future, what would you suggest I become vocal in? Something I have no opinion about? okay let's test this out here: boxers or briefs? ....ummm.... (I am sure my opinions will be treasured there.)
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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05-11-2005 11:38
hey Ella bella. Welcome to the forums my friend.  and uh.. boxers. I'm going to dissacociate myself from Cletus though since he seems to be kicking up trouble. 
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Beau Perkins
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05-11-2005 11:39
From: Ella Rockwell Thank you Lo! I knew that some of my friends would come through here.  Beau, I have better things to do than negative rate people at the welcome center. But for the future, what would you suggest I become vocal in? Something I have no opinion about? okay let's test this out here: boxers or briefs? ....ummm.... (I am sure my opinions will be treasured there.) Ella I didnt mention your name because I have no proof. Was just one of those hunches. It is all just one big coinkydink I guess.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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05-11-2005 11:40
Considering that most people I know view how many neg rates are GIVEN as the measure of a person, not how many are recieved, I think this is more or less a non-issue except in that it's a mean, spiteful act in most cases.
And Kris, as tried to be pointed out: One person ironicly IS a mob in SL, because as far as SL is concerned, each alt is a seperate entity. They are punished seperatly, awarded seperatly, etc. So one person doing an alt-swarm IS a mob, by LL's established precedent.
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David Valentino
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05-11-2005 11:41
From: Ella Rockwell Thank you Lo! I knew that some of my friends would come through here.  Beau, I have better things to do than negative rate people at the welcome center. But for the future, what would you suggest I become vocal in? Something I have no opinion about? okay let's test this out here: boxers or briefs? ....ummm.... (I am sure my opinions will be treasured there.) Boxer-briefs of course. greatest invention in the last 20 years!
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05-11-2005 11:43
From: David Valentino Boxer-briefs of course. greatest invention in the last 20 years! I agree 100% with what David said! 
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05-11-2005 11:44
From: David Valentino I would have AV sex more often, but after we are done my partner always triple neg rates me  lol... makes me wonder what that negative building rating is for tho. so sayeth: marilyn
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David Valentino
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05-11-2005 11:45
From: Marilyn Murphy lol... makes me wonder what that negative building rating is for tho.
so sayeth:
marilyn Well..I made my own penis..... Guess they don't like the plaid texture on it 
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