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Siobhan Taylor
Nemesis
Join date: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 5,476
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01-15-2005 12:13
Thanks Torley...
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 10,231
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01-15-2005 12:22
I don't think they will ban them, this happened to Garth and me too while I was landscaping our plot in Olive over a year ago. Said griefer is still alive and enjoying his SL. That's a policy that really needs to be changed. Vandalism isn't something that should be tolerated. Anyone with so little respect for others doesn't beling here. _____________________
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
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01-15-2005 12:39
contact LL Sio see if they can rollback the sim. Sorry to hear what the jackass did. Just not right!Cat _____________________
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Siobhan Taylor
Nemesis
Join date: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 5,476
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01-15-2005 12:41
contact LL Sio see if they can rollback the sim. Sorry to hear what the jackass did. Just not right!Cat I already have hun. About 8 hours ago. _____________________
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Darko Cellardoor
Cannabinoid Addict
Join date: 10 Nov 2003
Posts: 1,307
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01-15-2005 13:09
Sio I just found this thread and like everyone else I am disgusted. I am very sorry this happened to you. If there is anything I can do please let me know.
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Andrew Linden
Linden staff
Join date: 18 Nov 2002
Posts: 692
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01-15-2005 13:11
No worries. We can and will roll it back. The terraforming actions will show up in the logs and will identify the person who did it.
Such behavior is against the Community Standards. It is grounds for suspension or banishment, and can also jepordize all of their alts. I'll now start looking into the matter. |
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
Posts: 7,141
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01-15-2005 13:13
No worries. We can and will roll it back. The terraforming actions will show up in the logs and will identify the person who did it. Such behavior is against the Community Standards. It is grounds for suspension or banishment, and can also jepordize all of their alts. I'll now start looking into the matter. YAY! It's good to know that the person can be identified and that it can be rolled back. Sorry to hear about the vandalism Sio, I am glad it will be resolved. ![]() _____________________
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
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01-15-2005 13:18
No worries. We can and will roll it back. The terraforming actions will show up in the logs and will identify the person who did it. Such behavior is against the Community Standards. It is grounds for suspension or banishment, and can also jepordize all of their alts. I'll now start looking into the matter. WTG Andrew! Excellent news Sio!! Cat _____________________
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Unhygienix Gullwing
I banged Pandastrong
Join date: 26 Jun 2004
Posts: 728
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01-15-2005 13:25
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Siobhan Taylor
Nemesis
Join date: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 5,476
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01-15-2005 13:27
No worries. We can and will roll it back. The terraforming actions will show up in the logs and will identify the person who did it. Such behavior is against the Community Standards. It is grounds for suspension or banishment, and can also jepordize all of their alts. I'll now start looking into the matter. Thank you so much, Andrew. Ive spoken to the other Mocha residents, and so far nobody objects to rollback. I've not seen two of them yet, but they've not modified any land for a good while. _____________________
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Misty Rhodes
SL Muse
Join date: 5 Aug 2003
Posts: 312
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So sorry...
01-15-2005 13:52
Sio I just found out now. If I can help let me know... Gardens and waterfalls I love to do. and I have all my own Florals and great Higbee trees if you want I would love to help u rebuild.
Hugs and while this was a horrible thing to do, we get closer at times like this. You have so many that love you and are here to help. Love, Misty _____________________
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Siobhan Taylor
Nemesis
Join date: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 5,476
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01-15-2005 13:54
Thanks Misty hun. Andrew's rolling it back as I write, or is starting to. Hopefully in a half hour, it'll be all back to normal.
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Pahoa Jade
Just Me
Join date: 16 Jul 2003
Posts: 115
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01-15-2005 13:55
Seeing the pic put a rock in my stomach. This is just plain sick and it boggles my mind that someone could get a thrill doing that to a beautiful piece of land or someones hard work.
I know how it feels hun, We had something similar happen to us. But it was minor compared to this and an accident. I had spent most of a day terraforming and landscaping and went off to bed. When I came back everything on our land was floating above the ground. I had left the edit tool on also, and our neighbor was editing his own land. He inadvertently grabbed the edge of our land and everything on our land went down as he raised a hill on his. Needless to say he felt rotten and it was a hard lesson for me to learn. I never did get it too look as good as it did when I finished the first time. You can bet I never forget it now. So just a word of caution for all, always a good idea to be aware of wheather your neighbors are editing same time as one of you can effect the others land when both have edit on. Also, on the trees in land Edit: Although I think there are good reasons to remove them from edit land, I also wonder if it could backfire. I'd hate to see the same idiots decide they are gonna start looking for places to make a forest, or screw with someones garden. I think the best suggestion is to make an allow list for land edit. Glad you are back on track with the help of of friends and community Sio. And I hope you get the rollback to restore your hard work. P _____________________
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Ilianexsi Sojourner
Chick with Horns
Join date: 11 Jul 2004
Posts: 1,707
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01-15-2005 14:26
I feel your pain, Siobhan.... somebody just bought the 512 next to me and raised it to maximum height for some unknown reason, thus ruining the view and the land for me and my neighbors. I'm happy that LL is taking care of it for you. I don't understand why people have to be such asshats. Can we form a posse to lynch whoever did it to you?
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Lash Xevious
Gooberly
Join date: 8 May 2004
Posts: 1,348
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01-15-2005 15:15
Oh no. I often fly around Mocha whenever I go to Chartruese or Indigo and vice versa. I'm so disgusted that this happened to you, Sioban. But I'm glad the Lindens are working on it and they can even find out who did this to you. I hope they are permanently banned. Suspension is too generous for these losers.
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
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01-15-2005 15:20
Good to hear... *hugz* Come together!
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Charlotte Gillespie
2 - 0 Lindens
Join date: 19 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,101
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01-15-2005 15:25
It is fixed!
Props to Siobhan Taylor, Freya Becquerel, Kris Ritter, Nigel Linden, Jack Linden, Andrew Linden, Torley Torgeson and all the other people who have come to help and offer support through the day ![]() |
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Siobhan Taylor
Nemesis
Join date: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 5,476
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01-15-2005 15:37
Oh no. I often fly around Mocha whenever I go to Chartruese or Indigo and vice versa. I'm so disgusted that this happened to you, Sioban. But I'm glad the Lindens are working on it and they can even find out who did this to you. I hope they are permanently banned. Suspension is too generous for these losers. That's good to hear Lash... I'm surprised I've not met you in world yet, considering we seem to have the same friends, in the forum at least... You must drop by sometime when I'm there... ![]() _____________________
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Siobhan Taylor
Nemesis
Join date: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 5,476
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01-15-2005 15:42
It is fixed! Props to Siobhan Taylor, Freya Becquerel, Kris Ritter, Nigel Linden, Jack Linden, Andrew Linden, Torley Torgeson and all the other people who have come to help and offer support through the day ![]() Yes, special thanks to everyone who turned out to help... and especially to Andrew Linden who rolled the sim back a day (or the affected land at least). The Lindens will find who did this. I have confidence in that. _____________________
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Vade Blair
Tattoo Artist
Join date: 19 Mar 2004
Posts: 132
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01-15-2005 16:16
You know...
Aside from the island sim mix up that happened, I do not think someone who edits public editable land should get into any trouble. I do not mean to sound like an ass here, but you did turn it on. When I was a new player, I learned how editing land worked by finding public editable land to mess around with. If I made a mountain or whatever, I did atleast flatten the land when I was done but that is not the point. Land, like objects are only editable within a certain range, I believe 30m give or take. You could get a security script to set a parimiter while you are having your land edited. I just do not see how you can call this griefing, you allowed the feature to be on. You forgot, but that does not mean anyone should be punished for it in my honest opinion. It would be like me complaining about someone moving an object on my land that had the (allow anyone to move) option enabled. There are griefers yes, but do not jump to conclusions. I personally have not edited anyone's land since a couple of weeks after I first started, but, people will do what they can to learn. Would I be upset if this happened to me? Yes. However, I would not be after LL to punish someone for my mistake of leaving the public edit option on. Just my thoughts. _____________________
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Siobhan Taylor
Nemesis
Join date: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 5,476
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01-15-2005 16:20
Vade, it was the best part of 1/3 of a sim. Terraformed.
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Jsecure Hanks
Capitalist
Join date: 9 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,451
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01-15-2005 16:22
That's just out of order...
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Vade Blair
Tattoo Artist
Join date: 19 Mar 2004
Posts: 132
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01-15-2005 16:35
Well no, maybe not. However I do not see how it could be called vandalism if the option for anyone to edit to thier heart's content was enabled. If I erected a wall on my property in RL, and set tools out for anyone to make changes (spraypaint, hammers, chisels, concrete, etc) and placed a sign there that said "Have at it!" is that vandalism? It is an extreme example yes, but it is the same idea by having that particular option enabled. I am sure due to laws and such that my RL scenario would turn out alot differently, but this is not RL
I just could not agree with punishing someone sue to a public option being on. If they admitted they did it to destory, that is different. I do not see how intent could be proven without admittance. Could they have been practicing and say thier cable cut out? They got disconnected and could not log back in to revert the land to close to it's normal state? I am not blaming anything on you, however LL needs to fix this option and make it more explicit. Until they do, I can not see punishing anyone unless intent can be proven. Please, keep in mind I am not trying to justify what was done. I just have somewhat of a problem with people getting in trouble without intent being proven, as it happens quite frequently. Online... intent is the deciding factor for "trouble" cases. This is how I feel. _____________________
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 10,231
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01-15-2005 16:41
You make good points Vade. It's always hard to guess at intent, but if someone's land is developed already you'd think common sense would tell someone that it's not intended for random terraforming., and if there was any doubt that they'd have the courtesy to ask permission.
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Kats Kothari
Disturbingly Cute
Join date: 14 Aug 2003
Posts: 556
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01-15-2005 16:47
Well no, maybe not. However I do not see how it could be called vandalism if the option for anyone to edit to thier heart's content was enabled. If I erected a wall on my property in RL, and set tools out for anyone to make changes (spraypaint, hammers, chisels, concrete, etc) and placed a sign there that said "Have at it!" is that vandalism? It is an extreme example yes, but it is the same idea by having that particular option enabled. I am sure due to laws and such that my RL scenario would turn out alot differently, but this is not RL I just could not agree with punishing someone sue to a public option being on. If they admitted they did it to destory, that is different. I do not see how intent could be proven without admittance. Could they have been practicing and say thier cable cut out? They got disconnected and could not log back in to revert the land to close to it's normal state? I am not blaming anything on you, however LL needs to fix this option and make it more explicit. Until they do, I can not see punishing anyone unless intent can be proven. Please, keep in mind I am not trying to justify what was done. I just have somewhat of a problem with people getting in trouble without intent being proven, as it happens quite frequently. Online... intent is the deciding factor for "trouble" cases. This is how I feel. In the past I have had opportunities to modify people's lands and items, due to permission slip-ups or the player trusting me enough to have that privilege. That does not mean that I go ahead and modify to my heart's content without getting the green light to do so. Deep inside we know what is the right thing to do. If this person was experimenting with the land settings and didn't have any bad intentions, why didn't he/she revert the land to it's original state (I think that there's actually a button that does this) and/or send a message to the land owner to let them know what happened to the land's design? _____________________
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