What is the worst personal attack you have ever seen in these forums?

Had she displayed that sort of decency I think the sky would have fallen.

This is a personal attack. Just thought you might like to know. I don't think any less of you for it, nor do I think it should necessarily be verboten. It is, however, inarguably a personal attack.

Pot: Kettle?
Kettle: Pot?
Pot: Kettle?
Kettle: Pot?

thanks Jeska.

Eboni,

No, I regard it more as an observation. Ulrika has demonstrated many times that her kind of thinking is somewhat abstract, and that abstraction unfortunately sometimes makes her impervious to the kind of damage some of her more extreme statements can do.

I was echoing Cristiano's use of the word 'decency'. Had I been commenting directly on her posting the word I would have used would have been 'sensitivity'.

PS: And let me add that if you feel that remark of Ulrika's was acceptable, then you are living in a different world from me.

PPS: And let me also add that I would have no hestitation at all in making that observation to Ulrika in real life.

Selador,


I think your constant taking people to task for behavior you find unacceptable is just as bad as the behavior you wish to rebuke.


If you actually read the thread, you would know I don't support Ulrika's comment or her bullshit justification of it. I think the fact it remains on this forum is a clear example of why these forums are pointless and an embarassment to any corporation.

Fair enough. I don't believe anything I've ever said is a personal insult, and I would have no hesitation saying any of it in real life either. You wanker.

Whoa. Relax folks. I'll remove the quote from my sig. I don't want to encourage people to stay at the Motel 6, wear keep-on-truckin' belt buckles, or hang themselves from curtain rods. If the general public can't appreciate this black humor than I will capitulate to the general bland homogeny of the masses and censor myself.

However now that I know that deviant shock posts are so controversial, expect more soon.

~Ulrika~

This is not a personal attack. Selador is simply trying to equate the removal of the quote with decency and phrasing it in such a way that it encourages me to change my mind. It's a standard rhetorical technique.

Personally, I think the issue is, whether or not we agree with his definition of decency and whether or not those who violate what the masses define as decent should be allowed to express themselves.

~Ulrika~

I disagree. Both Cristiano, Selador, and Pendari have expressed themselves in an acceptable manner. Nothing they said bothered me in the least and their collective voice (especially Pen's) convinced me to begrudgingly remove the quote from my sig.

What's interesting, is that no one noticed that this thread was created by Cristiano with the sole purpose of addressing the topic of my sig with the goal of having it removed. Unable to name names, he created a post which would allow others to identify and discuss the quote of interest, and then take advantage of peer pressure to push for a modification. This is why ultimately the quote will be replaced with something even more skull skinning in the future.


Now that I've listed all the posts that to me are perfectly acceptable, let me point out one that I really didn't like. You have a rotten habit of taking honest and candid discussions of peoples motivations, feelings, and beliefs and dismissing them with a crude phrase like "bullshit". Personally, I find this lack of respect coupled with your crass vocabulary infinitely more harmful than a motel-suicide-thwarted-by-a-belt-buckle sig.

Stated simply, other people are sharing their feelings whereas you are denying them.

~Ulrika~

Actually, Ulrika, if I had started the thread for that reason, I would have mentioned your quote straight away. Give me a little more credit than that. I had not noticed it was on your signature until someone I was speaking with mentioned to me how much the quote had upset her. I had not see the quote originally at the time because I have not been reading forums much until the past few days - it had been removed before I ever saw it. You are the one who called yourself out in this thread about the quote, I just responded to you with my perspective on it. Pendari did the same, as did others. If you are going to make an accusation, at least make a valid one. I know you honestly don't care who you malign or upset so my opinion won't matter to you, but the quote did truly upset me upon seeing it.

Chris, to her credit Ulrika has changed her signature, which was the right thing to do. From her recent post in response to Cienna's thread, it is apparent maybe she realized words can be very hurtful. I suspect your comment may have induced this change of attitude.

Seriously? I was thinking you were the true master of the forums by crafting this thread to draw me out. My supposition was born out of respect for your perceived forum prowess. Now that I know it's not the case, I'll start entertaining the notion that someday I can displace you as the winner of the forum.

I'm sorry it upset you. I just ran into a horrible post that also really upset me, mostly because of its similarity to anti-Semitic Nazi propaganda.

Hopefully, they'll be as open as I am to removing offensive material.

~Ulrika~

Ardith,

I admit it - I do really enjoy self-abuse. Don't you?

I am a huge fan myself

Thank you Ulrika. Sorry to be part of the bland homogeny.

Cristiano,

Perhaps I ought to start a Wankers' forum.

When I searched for self-abuse in Wikipedia look at the page I am redirected to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-abuse

No wonder you $%&#$ enjoy it! haha!

While I appreciate the reference to my mad forum skillz, I would not be passive-aggressive on something I felt so strongly about. I'll catch you in my web some other time. In the meantime, I do appreciate the consideration, Ulrika. While I was taken aback by your initial response, it does mean a lot to me that you considered the feelings of others ultimately. It would have been nearly impossible for me to put you on ignore * sigh *.

Snowcrash,

The term Ardith used, 'You wanker', is a British term of abuse. 'Wanking' is masturbating. I don't know why this particular term is so abusive, since most of us are, indeed, wankers, but there you go.

chow.

Cat

It most absolutely, certainly, and assurredly does.

coco

Seven months, thank you so much, Cristiano.

coco

Cristiano, I don't consider the person who treated DogSpot's post with a total lack of respect to be in any sense, "Forum Elite." That notion belongs entirely to others. "Sarcastic" - that doesn't do half to describe it. Sheer sarcasm is never what I am objecting to.

And I would APPRECIATE it if you would quit referring to me as "St. Coco," a "net nanny," or a "self-appointed moralist," or any of the names you, Nolan, and a few others keep coming up with, just because I object to forum bullying, which I would like you to seriously maintain does NOT go on.

As I've said before, you would just like it if I didn't object when these things occur.

That is not going to happen.

But all these constant assaults on me, individually, as a person, isn't going without effect on me, and that is a shame. I daresay if I focused not on instances of bullying or a lack of respect for another person's post

AS IS REQUIRED BY THE TOS

and instead decided to tag you or Nolan with some kind of name, or adjective, such as your favorite theory, "hypocrite," and kept repeating it, month after month, then I think you might eventually get to the end of your patience with it, too, even if it were as long as mine is.

If both "sides" shut up about it and stop "trying to control each other's behavior," then what we are going to get is the bullying and the put-downs and the disrespectul posts from the ONE side, and total silence from the protesting side. That's what you really want, I think.

That just wouldn't be fair. So you aren't going to get it.

coco

I agree with refraining from calling people names. Although it is hard to refrain from the hypocrite tag as it pops up so often with so many threads here. Unfortunately when a good point is made by a hypocrite, the value of those words are inevitably diminished.