Another Activist Judge Overrules the Will of the People

John Kerry made all his money from suing people - same as John Edwards. Thanks to the two of them it's almost impossible to get malpractice insurance in Massachusetts and North Carolina.

just as much as it would be wrong for Wiccans to expect the rest of us to worship trees and carry out human sacrifices.

Get your facts straight, David...

While its true that Edwards made a ton of money as a trial lawyer, Kerry never did so. Immediately after graduating law school, he began work as a prosecutor in the Middlesex District Attorney's office. He was eventually elected Middlesex District Attorney, and has been in politics ever since.

- Ace

I think I'm more of a 'civil unions' type. Something about calling it a "marriage" sets off sirens to me. I think anyone should have the legal rights we're talking about because, well, it's THEIR stuff, and THEIR person.

*bangs his head against the desk.... I am NOT saying that gay marriage is RELATED to child or animal marriage!!!!! I'm saying that it is a slippery slope and the more you move the line, the closer you get to those things. I'm also saying that the same arguments that everyone claims are so valid for gay marriage can be applied to those other things so if we agree that they are valid for gays, how can we say they are not for the rest? The child marriage thing is valid because the only thing standing in the way is the age of consent law which varies from state to state. All it would take to remove that obstacle is one judge "protecting the rights of the minority against the will of the majority".

On the other hand, THANK YOU, for giving your definition of marriage.
-Kiamat Dusk
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Kerry is currently suing a number of Catholic Priests who declared him a heretic, he's also involved with lawsuits against the PAX Roman Catholic broadcaster, NewsMax, theSwift Boat Veterans and a plethora of other libel and slander suits against groups and individuals. On the other hand, the shareholders of Sinclair Broadcasting are suing him for destroying about 100 million dollars of the company's value. Kerry was in fact involved in the raft of hair replacement malpractice suits about twenty five years ago, but, no, he never appeared in court.

You guys are missing the point......Where are those Bush appointees when we need them?

..., these people WERE trying to change their constitution and look what happened! Third, there are other states with gay marriage bans whose judges haven't overruled them. How can it be that in Nebraska and Massachusets it's unconstitutional, but in the other states who voted for a gay marriage ban it's not?

Chip,

I wasn't trying to make that comparison, but I was explaining the course of logic used by these groups to make this argument. They don't highlight the fact that one involves consenting adults and the other adults preying on children. Instead they push the argument that pedophilia is a sexual orientation and thus entitled to protections from prosecution. The protections, as written, don't provide any language that would automatically prevent pedophilia from gaining protection as a sexual orientation. That's where groups like NAMBLA hang their hat. I don't know what the right answer would be for this, but if they ever manage to establish, scientifically, that their cause is a sexual orientation we could easily see some serious scrambling to re-define those protections to exclude predators.

I know you weren't putting that out there as being representative of your own views I'm just commenting on their argument and why I think it has no merit. The consent issue negates it.

Plain and simple, "judicial activism" is nothing more than a code word for "making decisions unfavorable to the radical right". Since the radical right is fundamentally opposed to the power of the judiciary to put the brakes on the tyranny of the majority, they see a lot of "activism". They're going to see a lot more as they keep pushing their anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-minority, anti-choice, anti-science, anti-any-religion-but-mine agenda.

-Anti-woman, but Condeleeza Rice has held two of the highest positions in the country and thereby the WORLD.

-Anti-minority, but the Bush administration has had more minority cabinent members including, again, the two most powerful ones (Sec of State, Nat'l Intel Advisor), one of which was a woman to boot!

-Anti-any-religion-but-mine, except with all the aid we sent to Indonesia, the world's most populous MUSLIM country, Christian conversion wasn't part of it. Nor have we made conversion to Christianity a requirement for Iraq to have its sovreignty. We give *billions* of dollars in aid to Middle Eastern countries every year without the stipulation that they convert. In fact, the very fact that you are able to BE a Wiccan completely negates what you've just said.

-Anti-choice. Well holy smoke! He doesn't believe in a woman's right to kill her unborn child! Let's lynch him while we can! And you wonder where the human sacrifice jokes come from.

-Anti-science. By that I'm assuming you mean anti-any-science-that-doesn't-predict-massive-global-warming-and-melting-polar-ice-caps-despite-all-the-evidence-to-the-contrary.

The fact is, nobody has a right to impose their views on my body or my life. I'm married to a woman and a man, both of whom I love very much.

-*slams on the brakes... You're a bigamist!? And in which state did you legally marry two people?

-Kiamat Dusk
Inquiring mind

If you disagree with gay marriage, then don't have one. Why should other people not get to do something because you don't like it?

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Just out of curiosity, why do you quote whole things and just put your name at the bottom?

YAY FOR GAY MARRIAGE!!! You got my support!! Bullet to the head to you conservative fucks!!

YAY! Paris is here to prove my point about the utterly hypocritical nature of the so called peace loving, tolerant, diverse Left!!!

-Kiamat Dusk
...sometimes it's almost too easy!

Juro,

I understand your confusion. I think I'm more of a 'civil unions' type. Something about calling it a "marriage" sets off sirens to me. I think anyone should have the legal rights we're talking about because, well, it's THEIR stuff, and THEIR person.

Also, keep in mind that this was *not* an anti-gay marriage thread. This was an anti-activist judge thread.

-Kiamat Dusk

There are those on both sides who present their opinions in violent and derogatory terms--the difference is, the so-called "Left" rarely lynches, bombs, or opens fire on individuals and institutions they see as representing the other side. In the 60s, yes, but these days the bombs are invariably planted by right-wingers who don't take the trouble to make sure everyone has left the building.

Right, because the ELF never planted a bomb.