Telehub in the new continent -- yay or nay?

I *HATE* telehubs.

But they are the only way to get anywhere. If you try to landmark anywhere north of Cecropia you get a "no telehubs within 1km" message. In other words, you can't get there from "find places", from a landmark, from the event list, etc.

That would be an advantage for some people -- no Tringo, no clubs, no events, no traffic.

I think it would be great to have remote areas like that, some people WANT that. However, if an area is going to be "remote" (i.e., out of range of any teleport), it must be labeled that way before it is auctioned. I don't know whether such land would be be valuable or worthless, and I don't want to experiment with $RL. Let the market figure that out without using my RL$, please.

Buster

No - the "new continent" is at the north end of the map, connected to the "main continent" by a series of water sims.

well to keep people from traveling 4000 meter after they expand upthere they wil have to put one up there eventually

yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes

please!

i sorta disagree with the 'there will be no malls' statement.

i think having no telehubs would make a good quality mall up in the new continent do well. Think about it... if you had to travel a long distance just to get to this 'cool, neatly designed' mall, wouldnt you stay up there longer and make sure u got the most out of your visit. it would make going places more meaningful.

i have rented land up in the new continent and i love aving to travel up past the rig. i bet there has been a massive influx in water vehicles.

OMG... Lindens, you should make a new water path up there and have the 'longest bridge in sl' going up connecting the 2 road networks... then people could drive up... that would hella cool... you could hold the record for 'longest bridge in an online game!'

The point is not to punish anyone, it's to create places that take more effort to get to and are therefore "remote." Right now you have to put up with flying (takes a minute and twenty seconds to get from Purple to Cecropia, I timed it) or use a vehicle. I know vehicles don't work the same for everyone, but I think Havok 2 will make that better. If they put a telehub on the new continent, it will eventually fill up with malls (some of which are extremely hideous and spam thousands of updates EVERY MINUTE to make their bling work) and all that other crap that some of us would love dearly to get away from.

Larry Niven once wrote a (futuristic) short story about a man who decided to celebrate his birthday by teleporting across all the timezones of Earth. So he teleported to each timezone for ten star credits or whatever it was, and the story notes that the easy access had more or less sapped all of the individuality out of the cities around the teleporters. So, you could be in Los Angeles or Singapore or Istanbul, and it would all look exactly the same. No local flavor anywhere, the same shops and people and homogenized culture wherever you'd care to teleport to. Water seeking its own level, if you will. Pretty much the same thing has happened around telehubs in SL.

The whole theme of the new continent seems to imply isolation and solitude. It won't after the land is all sold, but it will still seem remote and thus somewhat mysterious and special. Unless they put telehubs there anyway, in which case it will be like any other locale - just with different ground textures.

TBQH I'm not even sure if the Lindens have decided what to do about telehubs up there. I assume they are leaving them off for now, since they tend to install telehubs on new land the very first day it is floated up.

Easy alternative to flying - far quicker

see, itll be even easier without ths when every1 gets this

thanks to shack dougal for the script

In my opinion I think there should be no telehub. Even better though would be if one was placed perhaps near the oil rig but out of the sealane so that those who might not have a vehicle could fly to either the main land or the new world. If there is a telehub placed ( I hope there is not) then hopefully it will be only one some where in the middle of the new world.

looks to me like those who already have massive amounts of land surrounding all the existing telehubs vote nay..............

i disagree

i dont own any land around a th, anshe hasnt posted and why would they vote nay? surely they would want more ths to get more business?

does ne1 think that LL have let the private sims come a bit too close to the side of the new continent? surely that will mean the continent cant expand much more to the left?

Private sims are probably much easier to move since most of them are not connected to other sims unlike public ones. I would guess that a private sim can be moved rather easily on the grid unlike linked public ones.

...define massive?

Well - I can speak for myself at least. I have a 4096m about 150m from a telehub, in a telehub sim. That's my whole tier.

I *like* the fact that there are defacto commercial zones today, and prefer to do buisness there. Its just one less thing I have to worry about - the last thing I want to do is have my business piss off residential folks, and deal with that hassle. And, being near a telehub enhances any buisness - just via the extra flyover traffic. *Residential* areas aren't concerned about traffic. And once they do, I don't think you can consider them residential anymore.

Like it or not - anywhere you have a common egress point, it attracts commercial buisness like a magnet. It works that way in RL - and carries over to SL as well. And this isn't just limited to Telehubs.... It wont surprise me at all if the "flyover" area at the entrance to the new continent becomes commercial - again, its a common egress point.

If you take all common egress points away.... watch what will happen. You may like the conveience of getting from point A to point B in one second rather than one minute.... But I also hope you're prepared for DynoMall or Club Lagg <tm> to setup shop right next to your rural summer retreat by the waterfall. Because if the land is cheap - that's exactly what is going to happen.

Travis

I was referring to those that have land at every or almost every telehub. Not that it matters, Anshe did post.

I say let's get rid of telehubs entirely.

ok i stand corrected

I chuckled when I read tha alpha male comment. What does rile me up is the shitty selection of male clothing. But that is for another thread

Yeah and my cars will still disappear under their record breaking bridge.

Hey, those of you who really want isolation should post a poll trying to convince LL to make the new continent completely no-fly. You want your isolation. You want to keep out the riff raff; make them walk if they want to get near your isolated paradise. LOL

The concept of a "No Fly" continent is free to happen right about the time when one can traverse the continent in a vehicle without severe lag, border crossing issues, and pointless security scripts that teleport you home 10 times a second for your horrid crime of flying a cubey airplane 600m above their perpetually unattended sexball shack.

Maybe by then we'll have roads that don't have ban lines jutting in to the centerline. We can dream.

Hahahahaha, thanks for this.

I live on the new continent (I call it Mothra!) and I don't want telehubs. I like the remote feel of the place.

if there are ne telehubs how wil shops be known and gotten to and dont forget those nasty map edges in my opinion htere should be telehubs *hmph*

well first off, there r an unbelievable amount of shops on the old continent.

it is still expanding and tetlhubs r always added quite frequently.

we are trying to get an area/continent where the residential are is quiet and less laggy with malls clubs and in your face BUY MY PRODUCTS splahed all over the place.

nasty map edges? whats that mean?

The point, I think, as much as anything else is to dissuade the usual boring samey array of uber commercialism that you see at every telehub

Same reason as some of the far southern eastern sims are beautiful and unspoiled without clubs and malls and stuff - there arent any telehubs within a km or so. You'd have to *gasp* fly there! Why would you do that unless you live there?! *grin*

If we can keep another little area of second life as nice as some of those other remote areas just by leaving it free of telehubs ripe for another hub of express service commercialism, I'm all for it.

I voted Nay as well, but ... IF it stays with no telehubs, Lindens should do something about sercurity systems there as well. I was exploring the other day and some clown in the middle of no where had a system set for a huge radius that included the beautiful waterfal and river region. You want to talk about being pissed off about being sent home ? If they should set a telehub, it should be set at the Oil Rig, thats the perfect setting, in the middle of both worlds.