I voted no. You place a telehub there and it will promptly become yet another massive commercial area, undistinguishable from the rest.
The flight there is not so bad and totally enjoyable.
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Tito Gomez
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03-29-2005 06:31
I voted no. You place a telehub there and it will promptly become yet another massive commercial area, undistinguishable from the rest.
The flight there is not so bad and totally enjoyable. Tito _____________________
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Cadroe Murphy
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03-29-2005 06:44
I get frustrated when the virtual world deliberately includes what I consider to be disadvantages of the real world. That includes travel time. I'm not voting because I don't like telehubs and I don't like flying across an imaginary landscape bumping into invisible walls when I have somewhere specific to get to.
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Cristiano Midnight
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03-29-2005 06:51
I voted Nay, with a caveat - I don't want hubs on the new continent, but I would like to see one added perhaps to where the prim rig thing is. The telehub in Periwinkle is a lag fest, like most of the crap telehubs, and then you have to fly through two crowded sims before getting to the entrance. I am all for no telehubs on the new continent - just make an entrance sim that does have a telehub - perhaps something in Cyclops or ANWR.
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Kris Ritter
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03-29-2005 06:54
I get frustrated when the virtual world deliberately includes what I consider to be disadvantages of the real world. That includes travel time. I'm not voting because I don't like telehubs and I don't like flying across an imaginary landscape bumping into invisible walls when I have somewhere specific to get to. Some people talk about SL becoming some sort of metaverse or 3D web. It'd be funny if Google started forcing you to click through a dozen random web sites before you could arrive at the site you're looking for ![]() Hear Hear! I couldn't possibly agree more. Shit, I don't find myself saying that in the forums a lot! ![]() |
Mikey Mechanique
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03-29-2005 06:59
I say, either one or none. If you put just one there to facilitate easier access to the continent, yet leave plenty of room for residential development and anything else you could want.
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Pol Tabla
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03-29-2005 07:02
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Beau Perkins
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03-29-2005 07:22
Look like I'm in the minority but I have to say Yay. If the land gets as big as the mainland, it would be a drag to have to fly across it just to get somewhere. Keep in mind, for the majority of SL residents, Vehicles are much to laggy to actually get somewhere. I always end up inside some unrezed structure.
I just want to add. If you dont like Telehubs, why use them? WHy make those of us who do like them suffer. Without them, I doubt I will ever explore the new land much at all. _____________________
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Annah Zamboni
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03-29-2005 07:40
If there are no telehubs what do you think the first few sims at the entrance will look like after awhile? Probably nothing but HUGE ADs as far as you can see. But hey I guess the advantage is eventually the ADs will stop? Maybe. And yes if you did put in telehubs they would also be huge AD zones. I guess my point is I feel sorry for those owning land in the first few sims at the entrance... well unless they sell out and make a huge profit to people wanting to advertise to passerbys.
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Alan Edison
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03-29-2005 07:56
i vote nay.
who wants TH's in this new continent. no1 has complained so far of having to fly about. there are vehicles that can be programmed to auto pilot to a sim/location so why worry about having to control your av to fly over the continent. i sure hope LL dont add the th's PLZZZZZZ _____________________
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Beau Perkins
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03-29-2005 07:59
i vote nay. who wants TH's in this new continent. no1 has complained so far of having to fly about. there are vehicles that can be programmed to auto pilot to a sim/location so why worry about having to control your av to fly over the continent. i sure hope LL dont add the th's PLZZZZZZ The land is relatively small right now, thats why no one is complaining. Someone please answer my question. If you don't like them, why do you use them? Why must those of us who cant use vehicles suffer? _____________________
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Bruno Buckenburger
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03-29-2005 08:25
I use vehicles to go everywhere but I still believe we need telehubs. I understand the motivations of some in this thread but telehubs are part of the basic infrastructure of SL and should be continued. Regardless of what the zoning issues are, people should not have to fly so far to get anywhere in the new continent. Nice thought but in practice it would be more frustrating for many.
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Kasandra Morgan
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03-29-2005 08:43
I voted yay, but after hearing the reasons I change my mind. No telehubs would be cooler.
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Nala Galatea
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03-29-2005 08:53
The land is relatively small right now, thats why no one is complaining. Someone please answer my question. If you don't like them, why do you use them? Why must those of us who cant use vehicles suffer? However, this may be LL's way of indirectly "zoning" land, by making parts of the world easily accessible and others not so easily. As for vehicles, who says you have to use vehicles to get to the new continent? Last I checked you could still fly yourself all the way there. Everyone in SL is spoiled with teleporting and THs in that they want to get where they're going right now, not a moment later. Frankly, I don't mind spending an extra minute or two flying myself to the new continent, and if it concerns you that you might have to add a couple minutes of extra travel time to get where you want to go, then you need to either look at how well you're managing your time or stick to the mainland. Seriously.... I like the idea of places that are "hard to get to." It does allow for a greater sense of privacy, something SL has been lacking since its inception, and not everyone wants to be found all the time. So I say Nay. Let's keep the new continent free of telehubs and make it a place off the beaten path. |
Beau Perkins
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03-29-2005 09:01
1)Personally, I use them around the world because it is convenient when I'm going from one shopping/club/event place to another. 2)However, this may be LL's way of indirectly "zoning" land, by making parts of the world easily accessible and others not so easily. 3)As for vehicles, who says you have to use vehicles to get to the new continent? Last I checked you could still fly 4) then you need to either look at how well you're managing your time or stick to the mainland. Seriously.... My Response 1)Well we both agree here. Telehubs are convenient 2)No question about it, they have stated many times that was the whole logic. 3)The majority of the population can not fly somewhere because we end up trapped inside of unrezzed buildings. But if you are capable of flying without lag, all the power to you. Why must I suffer tho. 4)It is not a time thing, it is a technical aspect thing. Your response really is pretty selfish. Do a poll, I think you will find that MOST people can not fly around with any ease at all due to sim performance and bandwidth issues. I really wish I was able to fly from one side of the grid to the other with no problems, then I would be all for no telehubs. For you to say I should not be able to enjoy the new continent is absurd. Why cant you just not use the teleports? _____________________
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Khamon Fate
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03-29-2005 09:33
4)It is not a time thing, it is a technical aspect thing. Your response really is pretty selfish. Do a poll, I think you will find that MOST people can not fly around with any ease at all due to sim performance and bandwidth issues. I really wish I was able to fly from one side of the grid to the other with no problems, then I would be all for no telehubs. this is a poll |
Beau Perkins
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03-29-2005 09:42
ignore- misunderstood the last response. comment deleted
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Forseti Svarog
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03-29-2005 09:44
well, i first voted yes -- primarily because of the horror that was anwr-lag on the first day it opened and I never wanted to have to fly through a bottleneck like that again.
but the posts here are swinging me in the other direction. two notes: 1. i agree with Cris that bring a telehub closer to entrance would be good 2. annah raises a very valid point that enforced flying might cause some unfortunate effects -- i.e. advertising -- in the passageway. |
Annah Zamboni
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03-29-2005 10:03
Another thing is what if you are visiting and checking out the area or looking for people to meet, things to do, things to buy, etc.. and you run across one of these home security scripts on steriods that TPs you home even though you are no where near their home/land? Odds are you wont waste your time going back just to possibly be TP'd home again and it potentially could result in you not meeting new friends, not spending money at some business, not enjoying the siteseeing or some creators work. At least with a telehub your inconvience is minimized.
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Bruno Buckenburger
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03-29-2005 10:06
Another thing is what if you are visiting and checking out the area or looking for people to meet, things to do, things to buy, etc.. and you run across one of these alpha-male home security scripts that TPs you home even though you are no where near their home/land? Odds are you wont waste your time going back just to possibly be TP'd home again and it potentially could result in you not meeting new friends, not spending money at some business, not enjoying the siteseeing or some creators work. Good point although I would challenge your "alpha-male" comment. I've seen plenty of alpha-females pop these irritating devices up. Or perhaps they are not really females afterall. Hmmm... |
Annah Zamboni
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03-29-2005 10:08
Good point although I would challenge your "alpha-male" comment. I've seen plenty of alpha-females pop these irritating devices up. Or perhaps they are not really females afterall. Hmmm... Yes, I said alpha male as a joke to get a response like yours. ![]() |
Aimee Weber
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03-29-2005 10:19
I voted Yay, mostly because *I* want to decide when I am going to explore new places vs. when I need to get to a destination.
And even better than telehubs... DIRECT TELEPORT. Pleeeese for the love of god please Lindens!?! _____________________
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Beau Perkins
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03-29-2005 11:22
I voted Yay, mostly because *I* want to decide when I am going to explore new places vs. when I need to get to a destination. And even better than telehubs... DIRECT TELEPORT. Pleeeese for the love of god please Lindens!?! Cool I got Aimee on my side. I win, sorry folks. _____________________
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daz Groshomme
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03-29-2005 11:28
my first land is litterally on the edge of the map (sorry to the guys planning to sail around as we have just a blank edge, no ocean just nothing at the edge) how far away from a telehub are we being at the lower right hand corner of the map????
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Lash Xevious
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03-29-2005 12:01
I voted nay. Right now, all I do soar up to the highest point and fly over about 10 sims. I like hanging out in the firefly sims which is all the way up there. I also walk or bike along the roads, but the security scripts do mess me up. Encountered one last night even.
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Alan Edison
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03-29-2005 12:04
I voted nay. Right now, all I do soar up to the highest point and fly over about 10 sims. I like hanging out in the firefly sims which is all the way up there. I also walk or bike along the roads, but the security scripts do mess me up. Encountered one last night even. But I wouldn't mind a hub by the oil rig, and the option to directly teleport to sims there as long as I have a landmark to the place. Just like in private islands with no hubs in them. We drop in whereever. Lash, thats right, its the handiest way to get around sl... even when there r telehubs.. ppl still fly into builds... infact its worse the closer to a TH u are. simply fly up as high as u can and head in the direction u wanna go in. _____________________
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