robin linden's response to hypocrisy thread

Why are you all being so polite and silent about the alleged circumvention of an officer recall ?
Is it true ? How was it done ?
Doesn't it make the open-ness of membership a sham and a farce ?
If the open-ness is a sham, doesn't that strike at the heart of why Philip gave them his time, as he clearly indicated ?

You all puzzle me.

One thing about all of these Linden "Rules" about what Linden can and can't do, how they respect people's rights, etc, isn't always true. I know from first-hand knowledge that LL will jump in and violate the accepted rules they state to benefit one of their close friends (call it friends, FIC, whatever) at the expense of another resident.

You bring to light an important reality that many attempt to ignore. Sadly, it is not the one you think you are exposing. Here it is in a nutshell:

Linden Labs is not obligated to live up to your expectations.

While we're at it, here's another:

You are 'owed' no more or less than what you agree to by accepting the EULA.

And one last one, just because it apparently needs to be said:

If you truly cannot accept something, vote with your wallet, because all posting here demonstrates is that your mouth has no decision-making power.

Oh, I've already voted with my wallet. And thanks for the bitch-slap for having the audacity to speak up!

Believe me, that was anything but a slap. I'd offer you one, but judging from this, I don't think you could handle it.

Personally, I find it amusing that some folk have this much difficulty facing a simple reality.

Still silence...still puzzlement....
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That issue has been raised in other threads, and answered. It's moot anyway, as Anshe left the group after a major dispute last night.

No ma'am, to my knowledge he has no way of getting in touch with me, and neither did Anshe.

Yes, the thingie is checked so that it will go offline messaging to my e-mail, but I rarely check my email, and when I do, I figure I have already read whatever that was. (Not a great system, I know, but I'm not very patient with e-mail.)

As I have said before, I received all the messages about meetings that everyone in the group did. The problem was they would occur only hours in some cases (maybe less) after the messages went out. I'm just not on the game 24 hours a day to get them.

Right now, I'm fixing to post my sum-up of the whole situation, and how I relate to it.

coco

If that is so, Hank - and I'm not privy enough to that situation to take anyone's word on it - but if that is so, that is exactly the sort of thing I am against.

coco

Well, I was kicked from groups as an officer and had my land confiscated by Linden Lab for their personal friends, which would fly in the face of LL being some kind of benevolent dictatorship or a company that follows their own rules. I'm a long-time member of SL and wouldn't just make something like that up.

It might be a good idea to set up a secondary method of communication if you plan on doing more foundation shaking with special interest groups fighting for the important cause of justice for all.

Or you could just continue to cut yourself out of the loop by spending your time rebutting every single post you don't agree with on the general forum, day in, day out.

*shrug*

I searched - I can't find it. It does matter still to me because my opinion of how Anshe behaves is still evolving, and is significant because of the power she holds through her financial muscle. Ah well.....
I would really like to find evidence to improve what I think about her.

You are right about all the above, Nolan.

Hopefully I won't be thrust into a leadership role in the next group I discover belatedly is monumentally controversial and dysfunctionally organized.

coco

Good luck with that one.

Coco, I agree this communication thing for groups isn't that easy, nor the task of grasping the order of events and what is happening.

I have a suggestion. Not many of us seem to be aware of the "groups" section of this forum, which appears to have been created specifically for this purpose of intragroup reporting and discussion. I believe they can even be access limited to group members though I'm not sure.

Last time I discovered them and had a look, they seemed to have fallen almost into misuse. Bit if we are to see the formation of special interest lobbying groups (of which I do not disapprove subject to suitable conditions, and which I see as inevitable) I think these special forums may be a very valuable tool which we should all consider bringing into play.

How many of us even know they exist ?

Ok - I asked, and, via PM, I have had it kindly explained to me. What I could not understand was how circumventing a recall vote could ever be other than self-serving and disrespectful to the membership. I now see its value to the membership is in shortening the period of paralysis caused by the recall, and in fast moving situations this may possibly be justified.

Here is part of the PM conversation (I'm sure s/he wont mind):
Me : Aaaah - now I understand - thank you xxxxx. The one sort of vote the software does understand is a recall, and when the officer is gone, it knows to terminate.
Ok, that's good, and I can now see that circumventing it does potentially have a non-selfserving element. Which could well be justified if the paralysis is long, things are moving fast, and one is absolutely confident an honest vote would not support the recall. All of which may have been true in this case.
I accept (with some relief) that this is not really quite as bad as it looks.