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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
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05-15-2005 18:51
From: Prokofy Neva "It is interesting that in 24 hours, you have both the most appropriate thread title ever,and now the most ironic thread - well not so much irony as unmitigated hypocrisy."
Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument. He didn't call you a name or use a swear word. I think that you just became a parody of yourself.
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Prokofy Neva
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Join date: 28 Sep 2004
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05-15-2005 18:51
From: Schwanson Schlegel Prokofky,
You are doing it all wrong! Do it like this and they will see it better:
Do not argue with a person just because you don’t like them; try to respond to an idea, and if you don't really have an intellectual response to their idea or a legitimate critique to make of their debating point, don't bother to reply to them.
Be conscious that the 784 people who were once logged on this forum -- the largest number ever logged on -- is only .02 percent of the total population of some 28,000, and that only 5 percent of the total population ever bothers to read the forums, let alone what you write on them. Adjust your humility accordingly.
Don’t hasten to a thread to rebut a person you’ve acquired a dislike for in another thread if you have nothing to say.
Do not start a thread or a post naming an individual player, or which is really just a backhanded way of insulting them. It's against the TOS.
Don’t hide an insult in a rhetorical question, or package a vituperative reposte in an alleged generic statement that everyone can see is targeted at one person.
Don’t question somebody’s sanity or intelligence in responding to something you disagree with.
Don’t dredge up real or imagined RL information about a person to make a point – this is the lamest of the lame in an argument and only reveals you are losing the debate.
Try to offer factual statistics rather than monkey math, based on clear and easy-to-understand formulas accessible to all. Remember that figures lie, and liars figure.
Cut the poetry, give me the numbers.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Try to offer a reasonable and rational counter-argument to an argument you see, rather than ridiculing, denouncing, picking apart, twisting, etc. someone’s sentences.
Ask yourself whether what you wrote could stand up as an idea of its own if it were all by itself in a thread, not responding to someone else’s post.
Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument.
Rather than respond line by line to a post you quote in your own post, try to reply to the gist of the previous poster, writing a whole paragraph to sum up your thoughts.
Omnibus answers with a line or a paragraph for 2 or 4 or 6 people at a time are a good way to keep the forums readable.
Don’t assume you have the only access to the truth.
Listen to other people’s opinions and try to acknowledge when they have said something helpful or relevant.
Don’t place people on ignore.
Put out your own positive ideas in a thread rather than ranting against someone else’s ideas you find in a thread you don’t like.
Don’t publish irrelevant photos that spam up the forums.
Stay on topic
Be conscious that the 784 people who were once logged on this forum -- the largest number ever logged on -- is only .02 percent of the total population of some 28,000, and that only 5 percent of the total population ever bothers to read the forums, let alone what you write on them. Adjust your humility accordingly
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Ardith Mifflin
Mecha Fiend
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
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05-15-2005 18:51
From: Jake Reitveld Yes but I like stirring the pot. I never said I didn't. My whole enjoyment of these forums is stirring the pot.
Really it depends on whose hand it is..
And I loved the MR. Rodger's reference, brilliant. Condescending and in violation, I am sure, of several of Prok's guidelines, but brilliant. My apologies if it came off as condescending. I just saw a golden opportunity to reference the Neighborhood of Make-believe and had to take it. |
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Prokofy Neva
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Join date: 28 Sep 2004
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05-15-2005 18:52
From: Cienna Samiam Reported as the useless piece of spam and attention whoring that it is... -yawn- Cut the poetry, give me the numbers. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Try to offer a reasonable and rational counter-argument to an argument you see, rather than ridiculing, denouncing, picking apart, twisting, etc. someone’s sentences. Ask yourself whether what you wrote could stand up as an idea of its own if it were all by itself in a thread, not responding to someone else’s post. Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument.
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StoneSelf Karuna
His Grace
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05-15-2005 18:52
"Sixty-two thousand four hundred repetitions make one truth." - brave new world From: Prokofy Neva <while (1) fork();>
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Prokofy Neva
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Join date: 28 Sep 2004
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05-15-2005 18:52
From: StoneSelf Karuna hmm... probably stuff that she realized she doesn't follow. Don’t dredge up real or imagined RL information about a person to make a point – this is the lamest of the lame in an argument and only reveals you are losing the debate
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
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05-15-2005 18:54
From: Prokofy Neva
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Try to offer a reasonable and rational counter-argument to an argument you see, rather than ridiculing, denouncing, picking apart, twisting, etc. someone’s sentences.
Ask yourself whether what you wrote could stand up as an idea of its own if it were all by itself in a thread, not responding to someone else’s post.
Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Try to offer a reasonable and rational counter-argument to an argument you see, rather than ridiculing, denouncing, picking apart, twisting, etc. someone’s sentences. Ask yourself whether what you wrote could stand up as an idea of its own if it were all by itself in a thread, not responding to someone else’s post. Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument. Thanks for your support! 
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Prokofy Neva
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05-15-2005 18:54
From: someone He didn't call you a name or use a swear word. I think that you just became a parody of yourself. Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument.
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
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05-15-2005 18:54
Great idea! Let me add a couple...
- Don't tell lies about people.
- Don't neg rate people on appearance or building when you have a forum dispute with them (unless the disagreement has to do with their appearance or building)
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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,920
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05-15-2005 18:55
From: Prokofy Neva Cut the poetry, give me the numbers.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Try to offer a reasonable and rational counter-argument to an argument you see, rather than ridiculing, denouncing, picking apart, twisting, etc. someone’s sentences.
Ask yourself whether what you wrote could stand up as an idea of its own if it were all by itself in a thread, not responding to someone else’s post.
Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument. Sorry, I missed that. Could you post it again?
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
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05-15-2005 18:55
Prok has himself on mute.
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Artemis Fate
I'm a big stupid-face.
Join date: 24 Oct 2003
Posts: 746
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05-15-2005 18:55
From: Prokofy Neva Cut the poetry, give me the numbers.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Try to offer a reasonable and rational counter-argument to an argument you see, rather than ridiculing, denouncing, picking apart, twisting, etc. someone’s sentences.
Ask yourself whether what you wrote could stand up as an idea of its own if it were all by itself in a thread, not responding to someone else’s post.
Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument. Don't repeat the same points over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again like it actually means something. It's obvious at this point anyways that he isn't really reading any of these, just picking out things he doesn't like and making finding some quote that's loosely related to it from the original post to reply with.
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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
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05-15-2005 18:55
From: Prokofy Neva Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument. Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument.
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Robin Linden
Linden Lifer
Join date: 25 Nov 2002
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05-15-2005 18:56
Some great sentiments expressed here. Please, do us a favor, and don't let this spiral out of control. You're baiting each other -- I think that's known as trolling, no? I think the point has been made.
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Jake Reitveld
Emperor of Second Life
Join date: 9 Mar 2005
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05-15-2005 18:58
From: pandastrong Fairplay He didn't call you a name or use a swear word. I think that you just became a parody of yourself. We are all paradoys of ourselves here. No post can truly be anything but a pale impression of the person making it. Besides I think Proks intent was that he was being called a name "frankensteins monster." I suppose you could use an analogy, or is it a similie, as a thinly disguised insult. |
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Artemis Fate
I'm a big stupid-face.
Join date: 24 Oct 2003
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05-15-2005 18:58
Eh I knew this was going to turn into a huge Prokofy attack thread.
But Prokofy tends to invoke problems on himself like a nude man with a bad back in prison.
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Waves Lightcloud
SexBall Safety Designer
Join date: 22 May 2004
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05-15-2005 18:59
UT OH........ moms home,
Let pull together here and help Chip have his dream of 10 pages.
We can do this--- come on Team
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Ardith Mifflin
Mecha Fiend
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,416
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05-15-2005 19:00
From: pandastrong Fairplay Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument. Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument. Mmmmmmm... delicious recursion. |
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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
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05-15-2005 19:00
From: Jake Reitveld We are all paradoys of ourselves here. No post can truly be anything but a pale impression of the person making it.
Besides I think Proks intent was that he was being called a name "frankensteins monster."
I suppose you could use an analogy, or is it a similie, as a thinly disguised insult. Then he didn't quote the right person. This is just spam, against the rules of the forums, and just plain stupid!
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Artemis Fate
I'm a big stupid-face.
Join date: 24 Oct 2003
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05-15-2005 19:01
From: Artemis Fate Eh I knew this was going to turn into a huge Prokofy attack thread.
But Prokofy tends to invoke problems on himself like a nude man with a bad back in prison. I think he likes it though lol
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
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05-15-2005 19:02
From: Jake Reitveld We are all paradoys of ourselves here. No post can truly be anything but a pale impression of the person making it.
Besides I think Proks intent was that he was being called a name "frankensteins monster."
I suppose you could use an analogy, or is it a similie, as a thinly disguised insult. Frankenstein's monster, fuck-you hedonist, eh, what's the difference?
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Prokofy Neva
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05-15-2005 19:02
From: Nolan Nash Frankenstein's monster, fuck-you hedonist, eh, what's the difference? Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument.
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StoneSelf Karuna
His Grace
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05-15-2005 19:02
From: Prokofy Neva Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. From: Prokofy Neva It totally disagree. I think using negrates against people who defy all ethics in the forums by using coarse, vulgar, hateful, vituperative language against you in the forums, and harassing you regularly in the forums, is legitimate and indeed helps to strengthen the ethics in the forums. so remember, when you disagree with someone. follow her example, and go in world and negrate the person. but first call them "coarse, vulgar, hateful, vituperative".
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Prokofy Neva
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05-15-2005 19:03
From: pandastrong Fairplay Then he didn't quote the right person. This is just spam, against the rules of the forums, and just plain stupid! Don’t question somebody’s sanity or intelligence in responding to something you disagree with.
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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05-15-2005 19:03
From: Prokofy Neva Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument. Frankenstein's monster, fuck-you hedonist, eh, what's the difference? Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument.
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