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therefore:
repeat yourself often.

this constitutes "a reasonable and rational" counter-argument.

*kisses ingrid on teh back of the neck to see if she will slap me into page 10*


Sorry about the baiting guys. I quit at ten.

Yes, undoubtedly it has been made. Forum spamming is a-okay with Linden Labs.

Thanks for letting us know.

OOH, I tried it! I think it works!

Good point!

My insult wasn't hidden. It was right out in the open. And if you're going to invoke the golden rule then I guess I should get busy inventing a shadowy group for you to belong to that I can then accuse of plotting to destroy SL.

Let me add another maxim to your list... don't be a libelous foul mouthed jackass making unwarranted accusations of wrongdoing based on technological ignorance and then try and pretend it never happened by posting maxims for good forum conduct as if you're the forum mother Theresa... unless you're going for comedy value, in which case well done!

It's nice to see you reflecting on all the things you've been doing wrong. Good luck with your repentance. I still recommend a public apology to Cristiano as a better use of your time.

Well, the "fuck you hedonist" quote is a reference to some classic Prokofy. I'm not sure how versed you are on the class system which Prokofy has propounded in these forums, so forgive me if this is redundant. Prokofy has hypothesized that the world may be broken into any of a dozen or so different groups or classes. There are the "techi-wiki/scripterati", who possess considerable coding talent but evidently use that talent to prey upon newbies. There are the "feted inner core" who are very well connected in this social network, and use their connections to prey upon newbies. There are "fuck you hedonists" who do what they like, which often includes bondage, sex, and preying on newbies. These are the most important groups I can remember off the top of my head. There are also a couple of minor factions, such as the pro-communism, anti-newbie, anti-land militants as well as the pro-capitalism, anti-newbie, anti-land militants. These two groups seem to defy logic, but they do appear to be included in the official class structure of SL.

A more thorough study of the forums would reveal more. I'm afraid my memory is not great enough to do the rich tapestry of this hypothesis justice.

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Wanna mash pixels?

Do you think if we all made another forum somewhere and didn't tell Prokofy about it, we could get back to having mostly reasonable discussions?

Prokofy, I have abuse reported you for this thread. As much as I am tempted to I will not put you on mute, but I will abuse report every post or comment you make that is abuse, an attack, trolling, or otherwise dragging a thread into the mud. But I also want to offer a sincere apology for anything rude or nasty I've said to you in the forums. I do know better than that, and I should have known it was best not to say anything at all. Keeping with that philosophy, I'll be refraining from making any comments to you that are not constructive. If I don't respond to you, it's because I have nothing to say that wouldn't break your rule.

Similar quotes could be dredged up for every rule on the list. Let us consider the possibility that Prokofy has finally realized that his flavor of discourse is very bitter indeed, and that he is reforming. His quoted replies seem to bely this fact, but perhaps we should give him the benefit of the doubt.

Do not argue with a person just because you don’t like them; try to respond to an idea, and if you don't really have an intellectual response to their idea or a legitimate critique to make of their debating point, don't bother to reply to them.

Be conscious that the 784 people who were once logged on this forum -- the largest number ever logged on -- is only .02 percent of the total population of some 28,000, and that only 5 percent of the total population ever bothers to read the forums, let alone what you write on them. Adjust your humility accordingly.

Don’t hasten to a thread to rebut a person you’ve acquired a dislike for in another thread if you have nothing to say.

Do not start a thread or a post naming an individual player, or which is really just a backhanded way of insulting them. It's against the TOS.

Don’t hide an insult in a rhetorical question, or package a vituperative repost in an alleged generic statement that everyone can see is targeted at one person.

Don’t question somebody’s sanity or intelligence in responding to something you disagree with.

Don’t dredge up real or imagined RL information about a person to make a point – this is the lamest of the lame in an argument and only reveals you are losing the debate.

Try to offer factual statistics rather than monkey math, based on clear and easy-to-understand formulas accessible to all. Remember that figures lie, and liars figure.

Cut the poetry, give me the numbers.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Try to offer a reasonable and rational counter-argument to an argument you see, rather than ridiculing, denouncing, picking apart, twisting, etc. someone’s sentences.

Ask yourself whether what you wrote could stand up as an idea of its own if it were all by itself in a thread, not responding to someone else’s post.

Don’t call people names or use swear words – if you have to do that, you have already shown that you have lost an argument.

Rather than respond line by line to a post you quote in your own post, try to reply to the gist of the previous poster, writing a whole paragraph to sum up your thoughts.

Omnibus answers with a line or a paragraph for 2 or 4 or 6 people at a time are a good way to keep the forums readable.

Don’t assume you have the only access to the truth.

Listen to other people’s opinions and try to acknowledge when they have said something helpful or relevant.

Don’t place people on ignore.

Put out your own positive ideas in a thread rather than ranting against someone else’s ideas you find in a thread you don’t like.

Don’t publish irrelevant photos that spam up the forums.

Stay on topic

- Don't tell lies about people.

- Don't neg rate people on appearance or building when you have a forum dispute with them (unless the disagreement has to do with their appearance or building)




I think that this is all the rules that where suggested in this thread. Does anyone have a valid reason why any of these suggestions would not work well, or maybe more that could be added to the list? I know that these are not set in stone, but maybe we could have more useful discussion of what would make these forums better?

It is amazing what can be done with SL down

if you really want to do this... start a new thread.

Page 10. I'm done as promised, thank you all for playing.

Thanks for discussing the ideas themselves.

I think they could use some additions for sure.

I personally would not endorse this one:



Reason: a triple negrate is a powerful statement. Some people only respond when you can get at their vanity. They pride themselves on having no negs, and when they get a neg, they become terribly preoccupied with it.

I think the triple neg is a special act that should not be used in excess, and not just some random griefing, and not just to disagree with some random forum poster.

I think it should be saved for that repeat, egregious, unrepentent forum harasser who constantly makes person attacks and engages in malicious slander.

Absent in-game player dispute mechanisms, and without a Better Business Bureau or other agency to deal with slander and libel, a triple negrate is really the only way you have to legally show your great disapproval of a person in a profound way. When a person has so harmed you by spreading malicious libel about you, there is really good you're going to see about their building or appearance

They added a feature where you can neg rate yourself?

Dnate,
Thank you for including my two suggestions. When Prokofy replied to me and started to argue just because he doesn't like me (refusing to respoind to my idea with an intellectual, legitimate critique of my debating point) I was afraid my suggestions would not be counted.

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From another thread posted a couple of minutes ago.



Just thought that it was funny to juxtapose that.

Quite right! I think it's quitting time. Let's all clock out and go home for the night/day/geographically-appropriate-timeframe.

See now I disagee. If someone discovers I have a neg rating in appearance, they they will think that my appearance is poor. They will NOT be thinking "this person posts bad things in the forums". You are misusing the rating system, and causing a miscommunication.

Don’t hasten to a thread to rebut a person you’ve acquired a dislike for in another thread if you have nothing to say.

Try to offer a reasonable and rational counter-argument to an argument you see, rather than ridiculing, denouncing, picking apart, twisting, etc. someone’s sentences.

Ask yourself whether what you wrote could stand up as an idea of its own if it were all by itself in a thread, not responding to someone else’s post.

I'll be sure to swing by and triple neg you for your libel against Cristiano. I highly recommend that everyone follow this most excellent suggestion by Prokofy. Read this thread and then look up prok and let him know how you feel about his conduct.

Those don't even apply! Are you picking them randomly now?!?!

Stay on topic.

Topic on stay.