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Sick of minors on SL

WolfDemon Mechanique
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05-07-2005 15:45
From: Nikolaii Uritsky
It's offending to me because I recently -was- a minor. :) And when I was, I was not like any of the things described by Salem. So, I mean, yes, I'm not a minor anymore, but it's still offending to my past.



Well, see, that's different! If you were going to get involved with someone before you found out they were a minor, then they must not be -all- bad. I agree that minors should not be on the main grid, for various reasons, and this certainly qualifies as one. It's just a little much to start a forum thread explaining that all minors are stupid and self-centered. :) They're not all.

I think your angry tone towards minors has a lot to do with you recently losing someone close to you (that 14 year-old), and now you feel ashamed that you "fell for it", so you're turning that around and just getting angry at all young people. That's understandable, but not healthy. I would suggest, as concerned person, that you look through the events again and come to a conclusion other than "All minors suck. WTF." I mean, anyone would come to something resembling that at first if they were lied to. But it's important to not make generalizations based on one or a few people.

Anyway, I hope that you are okay, Salem. It's no fun being lied to.



Salem has a point though - I mean, there are serious *LEGAL* issues that you might have to deal with - like - oh, what if you had cyber with a 14 year old? Hm? What happens when the FBI shows up at your door? "I didn't know he was 14!" No, that doesn't fly. Seriously. It doesn't fly in RL and it doesn't fly in SL.

And pardon me for my rudeness, but why do we care about offending your past? Big deal. it's your past, move on.

Yes, minors do suck, they leave crap around the sandboxes, and the lindens have to come delete stuff - and most likely something that gets deleted it something that you've been spending hours working on, but thanks to some little twerp, those hours you spent working on it - are now wasted.

That's just my 2 cents.


YMMV.
Inferniel Solvang
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05-07-2005 15:47
From: Lo Jacobs
Your point accused Nikolaii of not reading the ToS. She is well aware of the 18 and over age limit, thanks. And anyway, you're missing HER point -- the very valid point that she was a 17-year-old not so long ago. Did she suddenly realize how to spell correctly at the stroke of midnight? Did she realize how to use the "Take" option in the pie menu when cleaning up prims?

She is offended because of the implication that all minors are rude little jerks running around with machine guns, and she is using herself as an example. Your sidenote about child molestation, while valid in other instances, has no bearing here.

And no one said anything about wanting to allow minors in SL.


You obviously did miss my point. I never said all that suddenly happens when they are 18. My point was do not advocate minors being in a sexually charged adult environment. And the terms of service reflect that. Again why be offened if she's 18. If she was on SL when she was 17, then she should not have been. But now that she is 18, the TOS says it's ok for her to be here. Evidently you like to read into things something that is not there and totally miss the point being made??? And also like to confuse what one person said with what another said?
Lo Jacobs
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05-07-2005 15:49
From: Inferniel Solvang
My point was do not advocate minors being in a sexually charged adult environment. And the terms of service reflect that.


I repeat, no one said *ANYTHING* about wanting to allow minors in SL. Are you illiterate?
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Salem Stygian
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05-07-2005 15:49
Exactly Wolf. The one i mentioned earlier wanted me to "call them", gave me their # etc. amongst other things. Just glad I never did anything with them. :eek: Don't need the feds knocking on my door. :p
Inferniel Solvang
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05-07-2005 15:51
From: Lo Jacobs
I repeat, no one said *ANYTHING* about wanting to allow minors in SL. Are you illiterate?


Evidently you are illirate, because Salem started this thread about getting the minors off this grid. And now people like you are attacking her as if to defend minors being here.
Salem Stygian
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05-07-2005 15:51
But they are going to start allowing minors on sl on the teen grid and there already are minors on SL on the adult grid, that is what this topic is about.
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05-07-2005 15:52
From: Inferniel Solvang
Evidently you are illirate, because Salem started this thread about getting the minors off this grid.


I understand that, wacko, but YOU were arguing with Nikolaii's post. Smell ya later.
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Inferniel Solvang
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05-07-2005 15:54
From: Lo Jacobs
I understand that, wacko, but YOU were arguing with Nikolaii's post. Smell ya later.


Evidently you have a maturity problem and just because you are over 18 doesn't mean you are mature enough and can handle this environment either. I was arguing with Nickolaii's post because she too was not on subject of this thread. So you are like her, just trying to pull the point out of focus and well that is dirty pool. Keep the thread on topic. If you have an opinion on things said here, but are not on topic, then you should start a new thread.
Salem Stygian
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05-07-2005 16:01
Yes like I said it isn't just about maturity and like Wolf said if a minor gets involved with an adult that could lead to serious problems and even jailtime. I also have known of a few other minors who were involved with adults on the game. This is serious shit, not something that should just be swept under the rug.
pandastrong Fairplay
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05-07-2005 16:10
From: Salem Stygian
:confused:


Here are a few things I noticed about minors, first of all they leave their junk everywhere after building, they don't clean up their mess. Second they can't spell worth a damn. It's just getting on my nerves, LL needs to find another way to verify peoples ages when they sign up, but how?


The teen grid won't help at all, they're on the adult grid now they'll keep coming to the adult grid, and what about pedophiles posing as teens on the teen grid. It's just a bad idea as well. :(


The above quote has nothing to do with the reasons why minors should not be allowed in SL.

It has the tone of a temper tantrum.

I love that the youngest people in this thread are the most lucid.

That forum AV is still seizure-inducing.
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Salem Stygian
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05-07-2005 16:18
sorry panda did not know you were under 18, you have a right to be angry.
Inferniel Solvang
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05-07-2005 16:18
From: pandastrong Fairplay
The above quote has nothing to do with the reasons why minors should not be allowed in SL.

It has the tone of a temper tantrum.

I love that the youngest people in this thread are the most lucid.

That forum AV is still seizure-inducing.


This is what I'm talking about. Immature and can't get the point. Your accusation of Salem having a temper tantrum is not as you said. She isn't having one. You too have missed the point. And saying twice that her AV is seizure-inducing proves, without a doubt, that you missed the point and are not understanding that she is saying that Minors should not be on SL. Re-read this thread please, and this time pay attention. And believe me, Salem is in her later 20's.
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05-07-2005 16:18
From: Salem Stygian
sorry panda did not know you were under 18.


no problum dood
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Salem Stygian
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05-07-2005 16:20
:p
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05-07-2005 16:21
From: Inferniel Solvang
This is what I'm talking about. Immature and can't get the point. Your accusation of Salem having a temper tantrum is not as you said. She isn't having one. You too have missed the point. And saying twice that her AV is seizure-inducing proves, without a doubt, that you missed the point and are not understanding that she is saying that Minors should not be on SL. Re-read this thread please, and this time pay attention. An believe me, Salem is in her later 20's.


Please go back and evaluate the original post. Maybe use a Burkean Pentad to identify the key points. You will find it incongruous with the meaning that you are trying to imbue it with.

and teh av is stil doody, dood.
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Branduff Kojima
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05-07-2005 16:24
What makes you people think that you can immediately assume that someone is under eighteen by their behavior? Just because someone is selfish and irresponsible doesn't mean they're a minor.
Inferniel Solvang
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05-07-2005 16:25
From: pandastrong Fairplay
Please go back and evaluate the original post. Maybe use a Burkean Pentad to identify the key points. You will find it incongruous with the meaning that you are trying to imbue it with.

and teh av is stil doody, dood.


You are just digging yourself deeper into immaturity. Your big words don't prove you are mature. It just proves you know how to read a dictionary.

And again I must say that you have missed the point of this thread. Re-read Salem's original post. It is about Minors not suppose to be on SL. I am talking to Salem right now as I type this.

And a third time you say her avatar is bad. Go create a new thread about it. That statement doesn't belong here in this thread.
Salem Stygian
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05-07-2005 16:27
From: Branduff Kojima
What makes you people think that you can immediately assume that someone is under eighteen by their behavior? Just because someone is selfish and irresponsible doesn't mean they're a minor.



I'm not assuming, I have had many admit it to me in the past, not being aware you have to be 18 to play this game. So I'm positive there are many others and these are a few of the things they all had in common before I knew they were minors. I did not however report them all, mainly the ones who were most annoying.
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05-07-2005 16:28
From: Inferniel Solvang
You are just digging yourself deeper into immaturity. Your big words don't prove you are mature. It just proves you know how to read a dictionary.

And again I must say that you have missed the point of this thread. Re-read Salem's original post. It is about Minors not suppose to be on SL. I am talking to Salem right now as I type this.

And a third time you say her avatar is bad. Go created a new thread about it. That statement doesn't belong here in this thread.


If the original point was to say why minors shouldn't be allowed in SL, I have faith that she could have provided better reasons other than "they leave stuff around".

This was a weak rant dedicated to insulting young people (and to show off the seizure-con).

My cat doesn't belong in SL. However I don't start a thread calling her a douchebag.
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Salem Stygian
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05-07-2005 16:29







Branduff Kojima
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05-07-2005 16:30
From: pandastrong Fairplay
If the original point was to say why minors shouldn't be allowed in SL, I have faith that she could have provided better reasons other than "they leave stuff around".

This was a weak rant dedicated to insulting young people (and to show off the seizure-con).

My cat doesn't belong in SL. However I don't start a thread calling her a douchebag.



:D I agree...
pandastrong Fairplay
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05-07-2005 16:30
From: Salem Stygian









minor!
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~ Ingrid Ingersoll on the topic of LL refusing to pay pandastrong for being in their game.
Inferniel Solvang
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05-07-2005 16:31
From: pandastrong Fairplay
If the original point was to say why minors shouldn't be allowed in SL, I have faith that she could have provided better reasons other than "they leave stuff around".

This was a weak rant dedicated to insulting young people (and to show off the seizure-con).

My cat doesn't belong in SL. However I don't start a thread calling her a douchebag.


Temper temper. I am offended by you implying I am a femanine hygeine product.
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05-07-2005 16:33
From: Inferniel Solvang
Temper temper. I am offended by you implying I am a femanine hygeine product.


The analogy implied that the original poster was insulting to minors.

Therefore, if you were offended by it, it means that:

Inferniel = douchebag = minor.

Inferniel = minor

Unless you are a furry in SL, in which case I apologize!
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~ Ingrid Ingersoll on the topic of LL refusing to pay pandastrong for being in their game.
Salem Stygian
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05-07-2005 16:34
I knew this thread would get a few replies, so I have stated other reasons why later on it it. Besides that was at around 6:30 in the morning so DEAL.

And shaddup, you are a child therefore your opinion does not matter.

:)
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