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Isis Becquerel
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01-20-2005 10:10
A large majority of people questioned in a BBC World Service global opinion poll think US President George Bush has made the world more dangerous.

Almost half of the nearly 21,000 people in 21 countries who responded to the poll published on Wednesday made no distinction between the Bush administration and the US itself.

They saw US influence in the world as largely negative and viewed Americans negatively as well.

In none of the countries polled was there support for contributing troops to Iraq.

"Negative feelings about Bush are high and are generalising to
the American people who re-elected him," said Steven Kull, director of the programme on international policy attitudes at the University of Maryland, which carried out the poll in collaboration with international polling company GlobalScan.

"This is quite a grim picture for the US," he added.

Need for diplomacy

In US Senate confirmation hearings, Bush's nominee as secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, on Tuesday acknowledged the need for more diplomacy and for the rebuilding of alliances.

She said US interaction with the world "must be a conversation, not a monologue".

Typically, one British contributor to the World Service website on Wednesday said Bush's re-election "means more pollution, war and social injustice [particularly in America]".

"Whatever happened to the freedom-loving, forward-thinking, right-minded people that made America the envy of the rest of us?" he asked.

More dangerous

On average across all countries, the BBC poll indicated that 58% of people think Bush's re-election has made the world more dangerous.

Only in three countries, Poland, India and the Philippines, was there a majority of support for Bush.

Even in traditional US allies such as Germany, France and
Britain, as well as in neighbouring Canada and Mexico, sentiment was predominantly anti-Bush.

In Turkey, a US ally and the only Muslim member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, 82% of those polled said Bush's re-election was bad for world peace.

Anti-Bush sentiment was also strong in Latin America, with 79% of those polled in Argentina and 78% in Brazil describing his re-election in negative terms.

In the poll, which took place from 15 November to 5 January,
500 to 1800 people were surveyed in each country.

The margin of error in extrapolating the results to the entire population was placed between 2.5 and four percentage points, depending on the country.

I found the following quote from Bush a bit disconcerting seeing as how so many have said that these wars are not fought under the name of the Christian god who guides the US presidents actions...not to mention the fact that he states that our form of government is honorable while at the same time signing acts which strip the individual rights which made this country the symbol of freedom and justice:

"I believe that millions in the Middle East plead in silence for their liberty. I believe that given the chance, they will embrace the most honourable form of government ever devised by man.
I believe all these things because freedom is not America's gift to the world, it is the Almighty God's gift to every man and woman in this world."
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Alby Yellowknife
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01-20-2005 10:41
From: Isis Becquerel
A large majority of people questioned in a BBC World Service global opinion poll think US President George Bush has made the world more dangerous.





Let me clue you in on something. The United States is not run by foreigners. So the rest of the world can take their opinions and stick it where the sun doesn't shine. George W. Bush was ELECTED by We The People.

And where do these folks get off saying that Bush and/or America has made the world a more dangerous place? Was the world safer on Sept 10th, 2001? Sorry, but its the United States that has the guts to stand up and call Evil, Evil and do something about it. Unlike the rest of the world who rather look the other way, hope the problem goes away, all so they don't stir the pot which is already boiling over.

The only people who think Bush made the world more dangerous are the people who want to roll the clock back to Sept, 10th when they could hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Sorry, but its time to Squash Evil when you Hear It, See It, or find folks Speaking it.

Thank God for President George W. Bush.

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01-20-2005 10:49
From: Alby Yellowknife
Let me clue you in on something. The United States is not run by foreigners. So the rest of the world can take their opinions and stick it where the sun doesn't shine. George W. Bush was ELECTED by We The People.

And where do these folks get off saying that Bush and/or America has made the world a more dangerous place? Was the world safer on Sept 10th, 2001? Sorry, but its the United States that has the guts to stand up and call Evil, Evil and do something about it. Unlike the rest of the world who rather look the other way, hope the problem goes away, all so they don't stir the pot which is already boiling over.

The only people who think Bush made the world more dangerous are the people who want to roll the clock back to Sept, 10th when they could hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Sorry, but its time to Squash Evil when you Hear It, See It, or find folks Speaking it.

Thank God for President George W. Bush.



Um...alot more folks are dying now, then were dying right before Sept. 11th. United States citizens in particular, as well as civilians from other countries.

More folks dying = not as safe

And the threat of terrorism is just as bad, if not worse, than it was before, seeing as how we have pissed off almost every nation in the world. In fact, many reports suggest that terrorist activities are far greater and more numerous than they have ever been.

So..how is it safer?
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Isis Becquerel
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01-20-2005 10:50
Alby, I hate to be the one to tell you this but the US doesn't run the rest of the world either. And what is Evil anyhow? Could you offer up an exact delineation of the term with regards to what we are fighting...as in something tangible beyond the rehtorical gobbledygook of the Bushie clan. You likely have very little knowledge of the Bush family history or the "evil"concepts which they supported in the past, so your opinion is mute as you would choose to follow rather than think. I will not suffer your circular logic or your assumptions of the rest of the world as they are insular and xenophobic.

David, When people have thier heads stuck so far into the darkness of their leaders anal cavity they are unable to answer your questions in an insightful manner as the stench is likely overwhelming...

The rest of the world r stupider and the US r smarterer than them pfft..
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Lianne Marten
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01-20-2005 10:50
I can't decide whether or not Alby is being satirical in all these...

That's the thing with sarcasm... if it's done too well you can't tell if it's real or not :confused:
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Alby Yellowknife
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01-20-2005 11:06
Funny... All the foreigners and leftist want to blame the United States and Bush for the woes of the world. But I didn't see you all marching in the streets when Clinton was in office and the World Trade Center was bombed, USS Cole was bombed, Embassys in Africa were bombed. Where was this call about "Ohh the world isn't safe because of Clinton or America" then?

Yeah, you leftist are just pissed that Republicans hold all the cards and you've been left out in the cold with nothing. So whenever you get the chance you scream Fire,Fire at every little thing in hopes that somebody will listen and join with you in believing the sky is falling.. Sorry, but the world has always been dangerous and America has always had enemies.

Hell, for all I know. Some of you folks are the enemy posting from Downtown Baghdad trying to spout your propaganda that America is Evil. But hey, Smart Americans can see through the Lies of the Leftist Radical.
Akuma Withnail
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01-20-2005 11:07
Yeah, good question.

Alby, are you being satirical?

If he doesn't answer maybe we should take a poll.
Lance LeFay
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01-20-2005 11:12
From: Alby Yellowknife
Funny... All the foreigners and leftist want to blame the United States and Bush for the woes of the world. But I didn't see you all marching in the streets when Clinton was in office and the World Trade Center was bombed, USS Cole was bombed, Embassys in Africa were bombed. Where was this call about "Ohh the world isn't safe because of Clinton or America" then?



Maybe that was because Clinton wasn't warned before they happened? :confused:

Or MAYBE... because Clinton didn't get us bogged down in a war?
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Lianne Marten
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01-20-2005 11:13
Oh I see...

No, he's for real :D

(Why i'm happy about that I dunno...)
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01-20-2005 11:29
As a Brit, if I may comment in this thread, the majority of people in, eg the UK, do not dislike Americans, but they do dislike Bush - a big difference. I have had one or two Americans say to me in SL, well you hate all Americans. We do not. Hell I nearly married one.

We do not trust Bush on foreign policy or pollution and think he is a warmonger. I don't think he is going to be good for American domestic policy either.

But half of you voted for him, so we now watch and wait.

Alexa
Alby Yellowknife
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01-20-2005 11:38
From: Alexa Hope
As a Brit, if I may comment in this thread, the majority of people in, eg the UK, do not dislike Americans, but they do dislike Bush - a big difference. I have had one or two Americans say to me in SL, well you hate all Americans. We do not. Hell I nearly married one.

We do not trust Bush on foreign policy or pollution and think he is a warmonger. I don't think he is going to be good for American domestic policy either.

But half of you voted for him, so we now watch and wait.

Alexa




Alexa:

Better get used to Bush as President, Jeb is on deck in 2008-2016.
Isis Becquerel
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01-20-2005 11:44
He is not. Stop with the propoganda bs. Even the republicans are against a dynasty. In fact even Jeb himself is against continuing the Bush regime according to Richards... "Gov. Bush has made it clear that he's not going to run, which probably has dampened enthusiasm for the favorite son," Richards said. "Jeb has said no so many times that they believe him."
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01-20-2005 11:46
From: Alby Yellowknife
Alexa:

Better get used to Bush as President, Jeb is on deck in 2008-2016.

Alby this simply isn't going to happen! If it does, the lefties will have every right to call the Bush emperors liars. Daddy and Jeb have both said he has no aspirations for the office. One of my more memorable quotes from Jeb on this was that "D.C. has serious problems and is in need of heart surgery" or something to that effect. If he did though, he would make a MUCH better President than his brother IMHO and that is coming from a registered Rep.
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Isis Becquerel
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01-20-2005 11:48
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Alby this simply isn't going to happen! If it does, the lefties will have every right to call the Bush emperors liars. Daddy and Jeb have both said he has no aspirations for the office. One of my more memorable quotes from Jeb on this was that "D.C. has serious problems and is in need of heart surgery" or something to that effect. If he did though, he would make a better President than his brother IMHO and that is coming from a registered Rep.


Very true Leck...the correct brother did not end up in office.
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01-20-2005 11:50
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Funny... All the foreigners and leftist want to blame the United States and Bush for the woes of the world. But I didn't see you all marching in the streets when Clinton was in office and the World Trade Center was bombed, USS Cole was bombed, Embassys in Africa were bombed. Where was this call about "Ohh the world isn't safe because of Clinton or America" then?

Clinton was getting the job done. I know Pugs hate to admit it, but it was true.

With every action there was a swift and tactical response from the US.

Who were the people crying when Clinton was taking care of business?

Well Alby, just go dust off your "No War for Monica" sign in the garage. That should give you a clue.

Georgie boy dropped the ball. He's done it all his life. The Bush family may want to invest in some petroleum-based glue for little Georgie's hands.
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01-20-2005 12:07
From: Isis Becquerel
Very true Leck...the correct brother did not end up in office.

It's hard to find the correct one when it doesn't exist... :\
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01-20-2005 12:09
From: David Valentino
Um...alot more folks are dying now, then were dying right before Sept. 11th. United States citizens in particular, as well as civilians from other countries.

More folks dying = not as safe

And the threat of terrorism is just as bad, if not worse, than it was before, seeing as how we have pissed off almost every nation in the world. In fact, many reports suggest that terrorist activities are far greater and more numerous than they have ever been.

So..how is it safer?

Oh... I see... that is President Bush's fault... not the friggin terrorists... I see. Get a clue David!
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01-20-2005 12:14
From: Isis Becquerel
Alby, I hate to be the one to tell you this but the US doesn't run the rest of the world either. And what is Evil anyhow? Could you offer up an exact delineation of the term with regards to what we are fighting...as in something tangible beyond the rehtorical gobbledygook of the Bushie clan. You likely have very little knowledge of the Bush family history or the "evil"concepts which they supported in the past, so your opinion is mute as you would choose to follow rather than think. I will not suffer your circular logic or your assumptions of the rest of the world as they are insular and xenophobic.

David, When people have thier heads stuck so far into the darkness of their leaders anal cavity they are unable to answer your questions in an insightful manner as the stench is likely overwhelming...

The rest of the world r stupider and the US r smarterer than them pfft..

Watches Isis stick her head in the sand while muttering...

There are no terrorists… there are no terrorists… there are no terrorists… there ar

Wake up... this is a post 911 world, your insults and slander will not change who the bad guys (the terrorists) are and who the good guys (President Bush, Dick Cheney, Condi Rice etc...) are.
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01-20-2005 12:16
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Oh... I see... that is President Bush's fault... not the friggin terrorists... I see. Get a clue David!

Yeah, it's not like he started an unjustified war in an already volatile country!
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01-20-2005 12:22
I am an American Boogeymonster....ooooooooooooo
Give me your candy or I'll pee on your house plants....ooooooooooooo
I am here to eat your children and poo them back out in...Detroit! oooooooooooooo

Me so scary!!! Booga booga!


Still, I'd rather be considered a boogeyman than a stinky frog or some other derisive name like camel jockey. Fear is the best reaction you can have from hostile nations.

Now give me some candy...oooooooooooo
I'm gonna whip out my ultra resource hogging, giant pollution making boombox and break it down proper for you all in true Boogey fashion..ooooooooooooo

Now...give me a beat!
Booga booga booga!
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01-20-2005 12:23
From: Billy Grace
Watches Isis stick her head in the sand while muttering...

There are no terrorists… there are no terrorists… there are no terrorists… there ar

Wake up... this is a post 911 world, your insults and slander will not change who the bad guys (the terrorists) are and who the good guys (President Bush, Dick Cheney, Condi Rice etc...) are.


And before that it was post pearl harbor babe and before that it was the brits and before that it was the french...get a friggin grip. 9/11 does not give us the right to go around dropping bombs on any nation that doesn't agree with your parties sorry little platform. You know, I realize that there are asswipes in this world. In fact a ton of them have Birth Certs from the US. The fact that some idiot flew a plane into a tower does not mean that we can go out and bomb everyone ever associated with him. If we did then GW's house would be on the list as Bin Laden's brother was one of his first investors. Save your insulatory reactionary crap, your the rest of the world is a big meany and only the US Republicans know what is right and holy bs for someone else.
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As long as the bottle of wine costs more than 50 bucks, I'm not an alcoholic...even if I did drink 3 of them.
Isis Becquerel
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01-20-2005 12:24
From: Xtopherxaos Ixtab
I am an American Boogeymonster....ooooooooooooo
Give me your candy or I'll pee on your house plants....ooooooooooooo
I am here to eat your children and poo them back out in...Detroit! oooooooooooooo

Me so scary!!! Booga booga!


Still, I'd rather be considered a boogeyman than a stinky frog or some other derisive name like camel jockey. Fear is the best reaction you can have from hostile nations.

Now give me some candy...oooooooooooo
I'm gonna whip out my ultra resource hogging, giant pollution making boombox and break it down proper for you all in true Boogey fashion..ooooooooooooo

Now...give me a beat!
Booga booga booga!


hehe...ok so even I have to laugh sometimes.
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01-20-2005 12:38
From: Xtopherxaos Ixtab

Give me your candy or I'll pee on your house plants....ooooooooooooo


Hahah!
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01-20-2005 13:07
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And before that it was post pearl harbor babe and before that it was the brits and before that it was the french...get a friggin grip.

Very nice Isis… excuse me… “BABE” you trivialize the greatest tragedies in American history. I can see that is it was up to you, “BABE”, we would have never fought off the French, broken off from the English, defended ourselves from the Japanese, declared war on the Germans who you left out because they actually did not do anything to us, or defended ourselves against terrorists. You, “BABE”, are the one that needs to “get a friggin grip” here.

From: someone
9/11 does not give us the right to go around dropping bombs on any nation that doesn't agree with your parties sorry little platform.

Last I checked “BABE”, there were quite a few countries that do not agree with my parties “sorry little platform” and the only ones we have gone “around dropping bombs on” was Iraq and Afghanistan. Sorry “BABE”, there goes another of your petty, bias, partisan statements up in a cloud of smoke.

From: someone
You know, I realize that there are asswipes in this world.

I couldn’t agree with this statement more. We just disagree as to who the “asswhipes” are “BABE”.

From: someone
In fact a ton of them have Birth Certs from the US. The fact that some idiot flew a plane into a tower does not mean that we can go out and bomb everyone ever associated with him.

Ummm… yes it does. Associate with terrorism and you give us that right “BABE”. Speaking of “getting a grip” “BABE”, I hope you mis-spoke and did not truly make that statement out of utter ignorance. “Some idiot” did not just happen to fly a plane into the world trade tower killing hundreds of your fellow Americans “BABE”, it was a coordinated attack against our country with the promise of many more. They declared war on us… we are honoring their request.

From: someone
If we did then GW's house would be on the list as Bin Laden's brother was one of his first investors.

Right… President Bush… according to you, “BABE” is the bad guy. A fact that trivializes every death on 911. Very nice.

From: someone
Save your insulatory reactionary crap, your the rest of the world is a big meany and only the US Republicans know what is right and holy bs for someone else.

Do not put words in my mouth “BABE”, when you have proved that you haven’t a clue what I think. Save your sanctimonious BS for someone else.
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01-20-2005 13:24
Billy, I have no idea where these people are coming from... I swear to God, the Socialist Party of Syria or something has gotten themselves internet access and decided to preach that the US is the bad evil empire out to destory the world. Its just crazy talk.


When the Tsunami wiped thousands of Islamic people off the face of the earth, it was the UNITED STATES who sent aid, money, etc First and The Most. We Americans break our back to help the rest of the world and somebody is gonna tell me that America is the problem. Puhlez!!!! These fools need to get a clue. Americas die not only for Americans to be Free, but for the rest of the world. The French, English, Russians, Egyptians, etc would all be speaking German and saluting the swastika if not for America. How many American's died in WWII to ensure the freedom that The World takes for granted.

We "GIVE" our Sons, Daughters, and Wealth to the world and all we get back is sly remarks about how evil America and America's Policies are around the world. Maybe if they would take 2 seconds to realize that if not for us and our policies, they might not even exist.
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