Wipe All Rates to 0 ?

I'd be happy to see rating's reduced to zero.

The RateBucks idea is interesting, but it removes a major money sink for $L, so probably ain't going to happen. But the idea could be interesting when the rate system finally gets really overhauled.

I agree with a wipe, but it has to happen concurrently with the rate change, so it isn't looking too good to happen.

As for dividing by 25, well, then all my rates by my friends are worth 1/25, while with a wipe they can acutally rerate me to a full value. Also, as folks reverse ratings it would be more difficult for LL to apply the correct adjustment factor. Not impossible, but it's likely not a trivial software change. May in fact be impossible depending on how they store rateing info.

well if incentive is gone then wipe them....i personally think it was fine. the only people it pisses off are the ones that get neg. rated and are totally dismayed that someone abused system because they certainly did nothing to deserve it. dont go thinking it must not have happened to me....because it has....and jimmy cracked corn. its same in real life...people dislike you because they are jealous or they think you are an ass for whatever reasons they have in their socially sad mind.

so chuck the rate system....it would appear thats where its headed if we want it or not.

I don't post a lot on the forums, but in the current scheme of things, I guess its time to start. There have been a lot of great comments and suggestions for fixing the ratings system in this thread, and now Im going to put my 2 cents in...

The rating system does serve a purpose for me. I can look at a profile and see how others view this person. If the person has A LOT of negative ratings, I can kinda see that maybe they aren't such a nice person and know to avoid them in the future. (If you look at my current rating you will see I have never neg rated anyone). If they have just a few or no negs, and a lot of postives, then I can see that maybe this is a nice person that I might want to get to know better.

As for wiping the ratings, I have to say that if they are going to change the rating fee to L$25, that would only be fair. But LL should also refund what we have all paid for rating others in the past. In the event LL won't refund the what we paid for those ratings, then the old ratings need to be kept and seperated from the new rating system, maybe as an average for each category or something...I don't have it worked out in my head how exactly it should work, but if someone else has a better suggestion....

Personally, I feel that the L$25 per point will make it so that not many people rate at all, and if they do, it will only be for those who they are really impressed by in some way, whether it be that they have a great personality, appearance, or something they have created that is just above and beyond. I think that was probably what LL had in mind when they originally designed the rating system anyway, as the bonuses seemed to be designed to be given to those who work extra hard to earn them.

Im done. That is my 2 cents.

Madison

ROFLMAO You pay nothing, and your complaining that what your getting in return (for your nothing) is not enough??

Here's an idea, take the $10 your saving on your subscription, go to GOM and buy some Linden dollars.

Better still, actually pay for your subscription and get L$2000 a month from Linden Labs.

Talk about wanting something for nothing.

25l PER RATE OMG ITS LIKE PAYING FOR SEX!
But If it cutes down on these 3rates exchange I say ITS GOOD! I look at some profiles to be totally shocked 1200+ given in only 1 weeks!ok these people abuse the system and they should pointed out as the problem causers. But I need rating why? Because I am a dancer host and people look at me. But now that those new rules are applied i can trust rates of newbies from now. I careless about the rewards of rate back money!

No, actually, the rating system is so gamed that the only indication it is is of how much a person goes clubbing.

Agreed. Let the clock be reset!

Agreed......... Zero out the ratings..


** Excluding everybody else, the Ole Alby Meister should be compensated L$25 for each rating.

For those that go clubing? but hell i work the clubs its my life. Its my life blood. See I am not a role play like some.......

Lance, I agree with you to some extent on that point. But that was not the point of my post, it was just an explaination of how I use the rating system. The point of my post was that the rating system was probably originally not designed that way, but because it was SOOO cheap to rate, people took advantage of it. With the increase in the cost of ratings, it will eliminate the use of ratings as a social thing and return it to what I feel was the original purpose: being used to give someone credit for going above and beyond in some area.

The old ratings will still serve a useful purpose for some people like myself who use it to determine whether or not they might want to get to know someone. But, it would not be fair to anyone to keep them combined with the new L$25 price. They should be a seperate factor. Some people did EARN some of the ratings they got, some people got their ratings as purely a social thing. And yes, I will admit I have rated people purely as a social thing. BUT, i also know when I see something I think is really great, I will rate the person who created it on their building skill. If I meet someone with a really awesome personality, I rate them on their behavior. When I see someone who looks really good, I rate them on appearance. If someone ever gives me a reason to do so, even at the cost of L$25, I will give a negative behavior rating, but they will definately have earned that.

I would love this to happen. I've been here 8 months, and in that time spann, I've neg rated 3 different people by accident and have felt badly about it. I don't even know who received them and it was probably in a crowded event or club where I was rating people back, more than likely. I've been assured I wasn't the only one to do this by accident. Besides, starting over won't take anything away from us that was already gained

PURPOSE for future yes.........
Usagi built her base one single rate backs up to the rating game the other day. Atlease i can live with say 97% or 98% or my post are real and not 3rate games some played just to add money and value. When i see a player with 2000 rate back in 2weeks i say this player is using this system. Again like i posted in the another thread the misinformation / or abuse of the system caused this problem.

Thats exactly the point...what you've really gained as well as everyone else is friends and thats what counts.

To all the idiots screaming this and that about SL being social and needing rating bonuses and paid events...YOU NEED NEITHER OR MONEY TO HAVE FRIENDS

I would like to apologize up front. I replied before reading the entire thread, so if this has been covered already, I am sorry.



I like the wipe to zero idea. I disagree with you Weedy, the asshats will still be asshats, and would be well worth L$25 to let the world know they are still asshats. I think they would be right back to where they started in no time flat.

Just my L$2,
McW

edit: disclaimer at the top.

I agree, do it.

Crow

People bickered about ratings when they were 1l and others will argue about ratings when Linden Labs implements the 25l per rate. If you take the ratings away people will still protest as much as those who don't want the ratings to be gone.

Yes, I agree with those who say the rating system @ 1l is a great way to meet and greet people; however, it made those who didn't actually go out to meet people (such as builders or scriptors) displeased over the idea which is something I can understand from there perception.

Despite the consequences of what Linden Lab does someone will always find a way to misuse the system and LLabs are trying to do is find ways to circumvent that from occurring even though people who have lifetime accounts will disagree, as others with paid accounts will agree.

If Linden Labs decided to keep the ratings then so be it and if they decide to wipe it then fine. I'm not going to leave a game over a rating system. I didn't even think ratings made a big deal until this decision was made. The only thing we are going change when this is implemented is our rating habits.

Whatever happens happens; nonetheless, I am not leaving over a rating. It would just seem impractical to depart from this world I'm sure many of us grew to love. I came here to hang out with friends, escape from RL and not worry about how much I spend; To be honest, you don't really need to have a ton of $ in Second Life to have a good time. Just try to enjoy the client.

Eddie

I say wipe the ratings and take away the tie between stipend bonus and ratings. It's only fair, since those of us who have a high number of rates now have a much larger advantage over anybody newer who is trying to collect ratings now that it will be L$25 per rate. The simple fact is, those who are behind in ratings just won't be able to catch up, and they won't get a very good bonus as a result.

I wish LL would find another way to reward people who spend a lot of time in-world and socializing. Socializers are VERY IMPORTANT to SL, no matter what anybody says. I think that's what the rating system is all about, rewarding people for making contacts with other players. Hell, our rating bonus used to also be tied to the number of Calling Cards we collected, pre-1.2.

Though people bitch about clubs, the simple fact is, they are there because they serve a purpose: giving players something to do. Sure, I'd love to see events in SL like "Let's discuss the theory of relativity!" or something similarly highbrow, but let's face it, people want clubs. So, find another way to reward socializers, and zero out the ratings... and maybe even ditch the whole ratings system, while you're at it. It kinda sucks.

OOOO I really like your suggestion....nice!

I agree with you McWheelie. As I said before, even at L$25, if someone gives me reason to, they will be neg rated and will have EARNED it.

Madison

Yes, wipe please. Ratings seem to be highest for the folks that go to clubs a lot. So if i spend more time making stuff to prettify the SL planet, rather than dancing or auctioning off my AV's tight little butt, i am not as nifty a person? hmmm, something skewed there. (not there is anything wrong with dancing and stuff, but you know what i mean).

Besides, i have seen players with enormous build ratings that i KNOW can barely rez a box. ah, ratings are crap anyway. nm.

Ratings should be reset for consistency.

In fact, it'd be nice if a rating expired after some time -- say 3-6 months.

Whats the purpose of this? people are still going abuse the system anyways.

Why don't they just make the $ from the ratings go directly to the other person and eliminate the bonus totally it they keep it at all (which i just assume they didnt). You pay $1 to rate and the other avie gets it. Money would be swapping hands rather than new money coming in world. And personally ~ i'd rather someone give me the $25 rofl rather than give me a rating. Can't go shopping with ratings.

Whats the purpose of this? people are still going abuse the system anyways.