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Wipe All Rates to 0 ?

Merwan Marker
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01-11-2005 17:26
The more i think about this and talk with others, the more i like this idea!

Assume LL does implement all that they have said in the last 24 hours - including $25 per rate.

Then if we're all wiped to 0 then we all start over.

There has been so much discussion about how meaningless the rating systems is, that short of re-designing it, I'm liking the Wipe All Rates to 0 (WAR0) idea.


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Hank Ramos
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01-11-2005 17:30
Seconded. Wipe all of the ratings to Zero.
Forseti Svarog
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01-11-2005 17:31
From: Merwan Marker
Then if we're all wiped to 0 then we all start over.


you are right merwan. If ratings are to serve any function at all, then everyone should start with a clean slate. You can't mix the 1L ratings with 25L ratings and expect to find that number useful at all. Bummer to those who have built up huge counts tho.

But to be honest with you, I'm not sure what function the rating system serves at all these days, apart from a way to pay someone a big compliment.
Talen Morgan
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01-11-2005 17:34
it was brought uip in another thread and it should be so....wipe em to zero then abandon the system
katykiwi Moonflower
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01-11-2005 17:35
I think wipe out is a good way to go.
Weedy Herbst
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01-11-2005 17:42
Disagree...it lets asshats off the hook to easily.
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Siobhan Taylor
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01-11-2005 17:46
I don't like the idea, but it's fairest, so yes, I agree.
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Darwin Appleby
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01-11-2005 17:47
Definetly. Wipe them all.
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Torley Linden
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01-11-2005 17:48
If it happens, it happens.

There are flipsides to all of these coins.

I'd personally be disappointed, because I am not a very social person and it has been a personal challenge -- at least for me initially -- to meet and greet people in SL. Something I am personally very proud and thrilled of, and if my ratings were going to be wiped, I would at least like a historical record kept somewhere. Otherwise, for me, it'd be like "last few months... whaaa?" Of course, someone's going to bring out the unquantifiable "human element" that "people know anyway and that rates don't mean a dang thing"... so another LOOP!!! there. *smiles cheekily*

I have friends who are fine, fine people who were given negs in ill-mannered, ignorant situations. They might be relieved to see their slates wiped in this way. Of course, along with the negs go the positives.

So, I can't say I'd be happy if rates were erased, but I'll embrace change as it comes and continue to have faith in the Lindens's decisions for the long-term.

The future's an exciting place to be. I just want the best for us as a community. :D
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Lance LeFay
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01-11-2005 17:50
Wipe it.

I don't just mean to zero, I mean get rid of ratings. What purpose do they serve?


None.
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TinaStar Dawn
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01-11-2005 17:54
NO NO NO NO NO NO! And by the way, NO!

It really doesn't seem right to just wipe out every rating that a person has gotten in their 3 months, or 6 months, or year and a half or whatever of SecondLife. I'm not naieve enough to think that every rating that anyone has was "earned" but those ratings do represent a history and taken overall, represent a person's time comitment and at least a hint (not a perfect reflection of course) of how their peers esteem them.
I find it really troubling that we would just wipe that all out like it never happened so a few currency traders can get a slightly higher value on their L$ to US$ sales.
Tessaloniki LeMay
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01-11-2005 18:11
WIPE A** FOR .. ooh no.

WIPE RATINGS FOR PRESIDENT !!
Lance LeFay
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01-11-2005 18:21
From: TinaStar Dawn
NO NO NO NO NO NO! And by the way, NO!

It really doesn't seem right to just wipe out every rating that a person has gotten in their 3 months, or 6 months, or year and a half or whatever of SecondLife. I'm not naieve enough to think that every rating that anyone has was "earned" but those ratings do represent a history and taken overall, represent a person's time comitment and at least a hint (not a perfect reflection of course) of how their peers esteem them.
I find it really troubling that we would just wipe that all out like it never happened so a few currency traders can get a slightly higher value on their L$ to US$ sales.

Tina, if you're comitting time to getting ratings, you're what I like to call a "Rate Whore". That's why we want them wiped in the first place!
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01-11-2005 18:23
Make it so.
Dragon Stryker
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01-11-2005 18:23
So those of us who only have basic accounts and don't sell anything in-world will have to depend solely on that base weekly stipend of a whopping L$50? Oh yeah, that sounds like a great idea. [/sarcasm]

If they do reset the ratings to zero for everyone, will we all get the L$ back that we spent rating other people? [<--- not sarcasm]
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01-11-2005 18:25
From: someone
If they do reset the ratings to zero for everyone, will we all get the L$ back that we spent rating other people?


I think that would be the most fair way to do it.
Lance LeFay
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01-11-2005 18:26
WHAT!? Get all the money back for the ratings!?


And you're worried about cutting event funding ruining the economy!

Oh, and:
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So those of us who only have basic accounts and don't sell anything in-world will have to depend solely on that base weekly stipend of a whopping L$50? Oh yeah, that sounds like a great idea. [/sarcasm]


Uh, yeah, If you don't do anything for SL... why should SL do anything for you? :P
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01-11-2005 18:28
From: someone
And you're worried about cutting event funding ruining the economy!


On the contrary, I think it will give this sudden economic change the cushion it needs in order to minimize overall shock :-)

Plus I never said cutting event funding would ruin the economy. Quite the opposite in fact over on the Economy forum.

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Lance LeFay
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01-11-2005 18:30
"YOU" as in "PEOPLE IN GENERAL"
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Dragon Stryker
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01-11-2005 18:32
From: Lance LeFay
WHAT!? Get all the money back for the ratings!?


And you're worried about cutting event funding ruining the economy!

Oh, and:


Uh, yeah, If you don't do anything for SL... why should SL do anything for you? :P


You're right, why should SL give me a weekly stipend to spend on things other people have made, such as clothes or cool scripted objects. I don't need to buy anything that other people make, I mean, why should I do anything for them if they don't do anything for me?
Antagonistic Protagonist
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01-11-2005 18:33
Nevertheless, I still think its a good idea :-)

-AP
Luminia Olsen
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01-11-2005 18:34
From: Lance LeFay
WHAT!? Get all the money back for the ratings!?


And you're worried about cutting event funding ruining the economy!

Oh, and:


Uh, yeah, If you don't do anything for SL... why should SL do anything for you? :P



nice way to lose members there.....
Lance LeFay
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01-11-2005 18:35
From: Dragon Stryker
You're right, why should SL give me a weekly stipend to spend on things other people have made, such as clothes or cool scripted objects. I don't need to buy anything that other people make, I mean, why should I do anything for them if they don't do anything for me?

They're supplying you with a product.

And note the :P
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Dragon Stryker
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01-11-2005 18:44
From: Lance LeFay
They're supplying you with a product.

And note the :P


And I'm supplying LL with an additional membership to make their Execs/PR people stronger when pitching SL to potential investors. "We've got X number of active members!"

L$50/week also doesn't exactly encourage Basic account users to try their hands at creating anything other than untextured objects. At least the Stipend Rating brings in SOME additional moneys to use for uploading textures, sounds, or animations.

:P noted.
feniks Stone
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01-11-2005 18:49
If rates are wiped, they need to NOT be related to any source of income.

Now that is fair.

If they are not separated from income, they will just be gamed again. So.. leave them alone, or get rid of rates, and the bonus.


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