The Anshe antibash thread - only nice words here please.

Perhaps a generic discussion would have been a better approach. For example, how should people behave when discussing a controversial member of the community whose actions have been demonstrated time and again to violate rules and accepted ethical behavior? Are there ways to approach such a topic without allowing the dialogue to degenerate into vituperative name-calling? Can we agree on how to behave when we disagree about a person's behavior?

Probably not, but -- by centering the discussion around a particular person in this thread, the comments were guaranteed to become inflammatory.

Ursa,

I won't quote your condescending post point by point. Thank you for your ability to run to dictionary.com and copy and paste. I know fully well what the word disingenuous means. I wanted to express more than just hypocrisy.

I have never said that Anshe was the anti-Christ. However, on the issue of "someone who plays by the rules", there are several sets of them that can be violated, as she has demonstrated. You can play by the rules to the letter, and still be a contemptible asshole. There is nothing wrong technically with convincing a newbie to sell their land for pennies on the dollar and then turning around and marking it up 1000% or more. It's just a really shitty way to act. There is nothing wrong technically from bidding on every plot in an auction as high as you can to win them, just for the purpose of turning right back around and marking those plots up to sell to the people you just beat out. It is just a rather lame thing to do just because you have the financial resources to do so. Many people do not have thousands of dollars to blow on auctions, but would still like the chance to buy land cheaply to build on without interference by Anshe's "service".

You can play by the rules of the game and still have horrible ethics. You can be publicly very nice and be privately nasty, because image is important to business. Those who have experienced it, however, know differently. Again, no rule broken, but hardly worthy of praise. I won't even get into the hundreds of dollars in land tier fees that were recently skirted while making thousands off of land sales, we'll leave that one alone I am not sure which rules you speak of, they change so often, but Anshe has never played by the rules that many people hold to be important.

As Oneironaut said, Anshe gives as good as she gets, if not more so. While your intentions on this thread may have been good, even if not really about Anshe, we all know what they say about good intentions.

You just once more mentioned my name in a post where you talk about breaking rules, people who talk newbie into "selling for pennies" and being "asshole". Thank you very much Cris.

"Can't you respect anyone?"

i cant respect ANYONE who rips people off for their own personal gain

You just once more mentioned my name in a post where you talk about breaking rules, people who talk newbie into "selling for pennies" and being "asshole". Thank you very much Cris.

I hope that those involved in this discussion can take the frustration they are feeling with the land situation and channel it into a debate about ways to improve the system. While the debate over at Buying and Selling Land has problems, there is a much better chance of making some progress when the system rather than on individual is being discussed.

Anshe has been nice to me - although I've not spent much time with her.

Ursa you rock!