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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
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02-02-2005 18:55
I won't name the name given the current policy, however, it surprises me given that this happened before that a player and their alt account has been awarded 2 developer incentives. A player holding large amounts of land under two separate accounts should not make them elligible for two incentives - with the way that they are calculated, it is not the same as the same person just getting a single higher developer incentive. It affects everyone else on the list, and keeps a legitimately elligible person off the list. I hope that once again this will be corrected.
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Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
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02-02-2005 19:01
If you have proof of this, report it, it is against the TOS and they should be punished either by being banned or denied any further rewards, that is BULL! I would also like to know who this selfish greedy person is, so please IM me the name.
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Essence Lumin
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Join date: 24 Oct 2003
Posts: 806
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02-02-2005 19:05
It is pretty obvious than someone has an extra e on their name in the announcements.
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billy Madison
www.SLAuctions.com
Join date: 6 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,175
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02-02-2005 19:06
Akiko Akebono
Ambyance2 Anubis Amy Stirling Angelica Zuma Anshe Chung Anshee Chung Antagonistic Protagonist Billy Grace Hmm i think thats tacky too.. that should not be allowed.. double dipping. _____________________
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Sensual Casanova
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Join date: 28 Feb 2004
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02-02-2005 19:08
It is pretty obvious than someone has an extra e on their name in the announcements. Oh it is all a bit clearer when they are in alpha order... *sighs* LL better say something about this.. Chung, I would like to hear from you regarding this too! Not cool! Did you give the money back? _____________________
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billy Madison
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Join date: 6 Jun 2004
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02-02-2005 19:12
Oh it is all a bit clearer when they are in alpha order... *sighs* LL better say something about this.. Chung, I would like to hear from you regarding this too! Not cool! Did you give the money back? Sensual you know i dont like you and never will but i would call LL if i were you.. you are at the top of the list for dwell.. that phone call could be worth 10+ dollars.. every penny helps offset land use fee's. _____________________
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Jauani Wu
pancake rabbit
Join date: 7 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,835
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02-02-2005 19:14
actually, it's three accounts.
but if you read the rules, the prize is in proportion to tier donation to the group land. so in essence, if this player put all of the tier allocation on one account, the total would be the same as when it is split proportionally to the tier donation of each account. it is not agianst the tos for this player to do what they are doing and it is very effecient way to manage high tiers. the developer incentive is inconsequential and likely not an aspect of their business model but a fortunate side effect. the losers are the two people who got bumped off the list. it is LL's oversight, not a players violation/mistake so i hope this thread does not become unnecessarily misdirected. _____________________
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Jauani Wu
pancake rabbit
Join date: 7 Apr 2003
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02-02-2005 19:17
actually, it's three accounts.
but if you read the rules, the prize is in proportion to tier donation to the group land. so in essence, if this player put all of the tier allocation on one account, the total would be the same as when it is split proportionally to the tier donation of each account. it is not agianst the tos for this player to do what they are doing and it is very effecient way to manage high tiers. the developer incentive is inconsequential and likely not an aspect of their business model but a fortunate side effect. the losers are the two people who got bumped off the list. it is LL's oversight, not a players violation/mistake so i hope this thread does not become unnecessarily misdirected. _____________________
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Sensual Casanova
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Join date: 28 Feb 2004
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02-02-2005 19:18
actually, it's three accounts. but if you read the rules, the prize is in proportion to tier donation to the group land. so in essence, if this player put all of the tier allocation on one account, the total would be the same as when it is split proportionally to the tier donation of each account. it is not agianst the tos for this player to do what they are doing and it is very effecient way to manage high tiers. the developer incentive is inconsequential and likely not an aspect of their business model but a forunate side effect. the losers are the two people who got bumped off the list. it is LL's oversight, not a players violation/mistake so i hope this thread does not become unnecessarily misdirected. You are saying this is ok? And YES it does offset things when the rewards are based on an average and not a set amount... hmm maybe I should put my 3 islands each on a different account... Hell I could even go out of my way and make sure they get great dwell by hiring people do events and what not... wow imagine if I got them to be 1st - 3rd place, thats well over $500 USD! _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
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02-02-2005 19:18
Agreed, it is not said players fault - it is still an oversight that needs correction.
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Sensual Casanova
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Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
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02-02-2005 19:20
Agreed, it is not said players fault - it is still an oversight that needs corrected. How is it not the players fault just the same? Why didn't the player say , HEY LOOK LL, you gave me TWO (or now three) Awards! _____________________
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billy Madison
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Join date: 6 Jun 2004
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02-02-2005 19:20
yep, and someones making out like a bandit on this deal.. i think ill start splitting up my places and have events and such and when questioned ill just say i sold my land because ill put each account under a diff cc.
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billy Madison
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02-02-2005 19:21
How is it not the players fault just the same? Why didn't the player say , HEY LOOK LL, you gave me TWO (or now three) Awards! a hand out is a hand out money is money.. snatch and run is the tactics of this place. _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
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02-02-2005 19:22
If you have proof of this, report it, it is against the TOS and they should be punished either by being banned or denied any further rewards, that is BULL! I would also like to know who this selfish greedy person is, so please IM me the name. It isn't against TOS to hold land in more than one account in a group. The developer incentives are calculated automatically - but it is fundamentally wrong to award not two, actually three (according to Jauani) developer incentives to the same player. I cannot believe they did not even look at the list - it is blatantly obvious. _____________________
Cristiano
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Sensual Casanova
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02-02-2005 19:24
It isn't against TOS to hold land in more than one account in a group. The developer incentives are calculated automatically - but it is fundamentally wrong to award not two, actually three (according to Jauani) developer incentives to the same player. I cannot believe they did not even look at the list - it is blatantly obvious. It is against the rules of Dev awards to give more then one award to the same in real person... I know this because I asked when I wanted an easy way to determine awards for the Dark Life Crew and Le Cadre, I wanted them to be seperate, it wasn't allowed. _____________________
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billy Madison
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02-02-2005 19:25
It is against the rules of Dev awards to be given to more than one in real person... I know this because I asked when I wanted an easy way to determine awards for the Dark Life Crew and Le Cadre, I wanted them to be seperate, it wasn't allowed. I think your right. approx how much money did this person get with the three accounts? _____________________
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Sensual Casanova
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Join date: 28 Feb 2004
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02-02-2005 19:27
I think your right. approx how much money did this person get with the three accounts? I don't know but I do know that the max ONE player (1st place) is allowed to receive is approx $250 USD and dividing your land up can exceed way more than that _____________________
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billy Madison
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02-02-2005 19:29
if you dont mind me asking how much did you get? and have you ever been around where any of her accounts are in rankings? I want to know how much she is getting out of this.. if this is a decent wage ill have a new bussiness model to work off of until they correct this.. hint hint fix it now.
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Jauani Wu
pancake rabbit
Join date: 7 Apr 2003
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02-02-2005 19:31
sensual, the proportion of the pot the player took in respects to all other player on the list is the same as if it was all rewarded to one account holding all the tier. the problem of LL's oversight is that by not lumping the three awards into one is that it knocked two other players off the list. everybody on this list benefited by this, not just the player with three accounts (including you).
if you were to to put each of your sims under a different account you might bump your lowest dwell sim off the list by your higher two. if all three qualified, two other players would not have qualified so everyone who did would get a higher piece of the pie. this is going to be another level of complication for LL in administrating the competition but a necessary one, because if i was one of the two players bumped off, i wouldn't be pleased. _____________________
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Sensual Casanova
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02-02-2005 19:34
sensual, the proportion of the pot the player took in respects to all other player on the list is the same as if it was all rewarded to one account holding all the tier. the problem of LL's oversight is that by not lumping the three awards into one is that it knocked two other players off the list. everybody on this list benefited by this, not just the player with three accounts (including you). if you were to to put each of your sims under a different account you might bump your lowest dwell sim off the list by your higher two. if all three qualified, two other players would not have qualified so everyone who did would get a higher piece of the pie. this is going to be another level of complication for LL in administrating the competition but a necessary one, because if i was one of the two players bumped off, i wouldn't be pleased. You are wrong Juani, it DOES make a difference, if I put my 3 islands on seperate accounts, and so happen to get 1st, 2nd and 3rd place, That is well OVER $500 USD when the top dev award is only to be approx $250 USD, what part of that do you not understand? _____________________
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Sensual Casanova
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Join date: 28 Feb 2004
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02-02-2005 19:35
if you dont mind me asking how much did you get? and have you ever been around where any of her accounts are in rankings? I want to know how much she is getting out of this.. if this is a decent wage ill have a new bussiness model to work off of until they correct this.. hint hint fix it now. Thats none of your business Billy, and I certainly would not help give information to another added person wanting to abuse the system _____________________
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billy Madison
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02-02-2005 19:35
You are wrong Juani, it DOES make a difference, if I put my 3 islands on seperate accounts, and so happen to get 1st, 2nd and 3rd place, That is well OVER $500 USD when the top dev award is only to be approx $250 USD, what part of that do you not understand? hun please call LL i want to know what there reaction to this is. _____________________
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Jauani Wu
pancake rabbit
Join date: 7 Apr 2003
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02-02-2005 19:40
according to haney's post, group land awards are divided by tier donations. so if all the land was donated by one account or three accounts, the total is the same. it's quite possible that in this situation that under one account the player would qualify, but by splitting the tier donation into seperate accounts, the some or none of the accounts qualify.
if you look for the real reason for multiple accounts in this case, it is that when you are running a land business, it is ideal to offset tier into several accounts with differing billing periods. this is a good way to be able to react quickly to the market. it is not a dwell scam. it's quite possible that the player actually lost out on the full possible award for their land because some of the lower tier donating accounts didn't qualify. _____________________
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Sensual Casanova
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02-02-2005 19:43
I dont care if this person got less or not, the facts remain the possibilites of this, as the example I gave before is clearly abusing the sytem, just because in this incident the player may have gained or lossed, it is wrong.
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billy Madison
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02-02-2005 19:43
according to haney's post, group land awards are divided by tier donations. so if all the land was donated by one account or three accounts, the total is the same. it's quite possible that in this situation that under one account the player would qualify, but by splitting the tier donation into seperate accounts, the some or none of the accounts qualify. if you look for the real reason for multiple accounts in this case, it is that when you are running a land business, it is ideal to offset tier into several accounts with differing billing periods. this is a good way to be able to react quickly to the market. it is not a dwell scam. it's quite possible that the player actually lost out on the full possible award for their land because some of the lower tier donating accounts didn't qualify. I could be wrong but i dont think this is accurate.... _____________________
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