Annoying lame security scripts

I am started to get pissed off at the home security scripts that keeps killing me when I try to fly to some location.

I fly high up in air and suddenly, requesting teleport, and I am back at my home location or crash
Since flying is how we move to locations further away from hubs, these killer scripts should immidetaly be banned.

If I leave some mine on my land that kills someone, I can be sure I get a warning also.

Put up the lame red bars or some script that bounce one away if you do not like visitors, but for gods sake to be killed when flying by is frigging lame.

Imagine if everyone would start using these, it would result in nobody would be able to get anywhere.

Go back to the spot where it happened and *notify* the owner. If the owner is a novice scripter, they may not know how badly it affects passers-by. If that fails to work, file an Abuse Report.

Agreed. This should be against TOS or better yet, simply not possible.

What's worse is that senior players were defending these types of scripts in the scripting forum.

I'm not sure how widespread it is, as I've never been hit by it, but if a few more people start complaining than something should be done about this pronto.

There's already enough things that knock us out of flying vehicles, we don't need anymore..

Actually, the misuse of a security script is against the ToS already, so reporting it would work.

I have to say, though, that security scripts are good for keeping repeat griefers away. The land ban tools only protect structures on the ground.

It's open to interpretation. Nothing in the TOS says that your land ends at 200 m, as far as I know.

They need to make this more clear, or much better, just make sure ejectfromland/teleportagent doesn't work at that height..

I'm still against ripping the teeth out of our tools because some people abuse them or don't know how to use them.

And for pitties sake, it doesn't take a ton of effort to build in a set of warnings. If you don't know how to do it, feel free to ask me. I'll tell you how. In fact, once I get home this morning, I think I'll post an example in the scripting forum.

If you do know how to do it, but wrote your script to boot instantly anyway... why? Why not give us the five or even fifteen seconds we need to either finish crossing your land or turn around and get out of there? I'm quite sick of littering the sky with my aircraft because a few can't give us the chance to fly over.

I'm all for ripping out our tools.

Letting commonsense rule once we have 1 million people in here is not going to be viable.

Better cripple the functionality now, rather than later when suddenly all our scripts stop working..

The best way is to embarass the crap out of them. I have one that doesn't tele you home or anything, but tells me you're there. Its great fun to IM someone in the middle of messing around in your space with : "Hey, find what you're looking for?"

Its just a formula for hilarity!

Usually they apologize or make up some excuse (which is funny in itself), and they go away. The really persistent ones get entered into 'The List'.

I really thought the point of land was to build up pretty things and even sell them, wow your neighbors, amaze your friends. I can't imagine a whole lot of people actually need to use SL as not only an online escape, but an online escape within which nobody can possibly touch them.

Why are you going to pay so much in land tier fees when you're the only person allowed to look at your land?

I agree that on the MAIN GRID these scripts should be banned because it's wrong to prevent you from getting home or wherever you are going it's NOT right, however places like private island sims where it's NOT preventing you from going anywhere BUT that sim well that's another story, imo.

We have a system that doesn't auto port you, BUT does port you home on command. We use this specifically to remove griefers not to grief. There's a difference.

Oh yeah, this is really bad when you try to cross the sims adjacent to Crescent. Very annoying. If you're flying fast enough, you can usually avoid the boot, but with even the slightest lag...you're dead in the water.

I think the lame red bars are OK but I'm opposed to even a bounce. I don't think just because you have the misfortune to fly from the telehub directly over someone's property that they should do this to you.

I negrated a property owner who did that to me. And he said that he was sick of having people land on his property. Well they do that because they get lost coming out of the telehub, things don't rez, they can't see, and the mistakenly land in someone's home. If you build a residence near a telehub, expect this and put up the red bars if you must but don't inconvenience everyone. Saying "fly around me" is not good enough because you can't even see the property rezzing until you are already bounced away.

can we start a thread posting locations where land owners are complete asshats, ya know.. kind of like a travel advisory in central america...

"stay off the Northwestern Highway, bus hijackings by Guatemalan guerillas"

could be....

"Ashat land - Quat (152,63)" (example, I have no clue what is actually at those coords)

We need to make an Asshat logo then...

Likewise. 98% of the time, the person's land doing the banning/killing/porting/whatever isn't the destination - or even KNOWN BY - the avatar passing by. I am not trying to land on your land, intrude in your space, annoy you or harass you. I am just trying to get somewhere else, ya know?


(note: the 'is' and 'yous' in this post are the general sense of the pronouns, not specific.)

Then why are you here, Blaze, instead of over on There? Not much point in logging into SL if we don't have any building tools...

I was going to say something but Id rather not as my opinion does not correspond with Blaze's theory in ripping the guts out of our very scripting system. To me its a waste of linden effort and focus. People just need to learn morals and restraint and drop the drama.

Period.

Shadow

For the same reason you don't share your FTP to anyone on your colo'd box, or allow strangers to change your html on your hosted webserver. Its just yours, and you do what you want with it. I don't see how that is so hard to understand. *shrug*

There is one very rude individual who has large parcel of land south of Grizledale telehub. I think it very likely is same person that also frustrated finn. I tried claim land south of Grizledale, attempting to fly there from telehub at considerable altitute. Each time I suddenly end up at my home location, stuck, forced to reboot. There was not even message telling me what happened. I first started file bug reports and call liason since, coincidently, this all happen shortly after one new patch. One liason checked it out and finally found so-called "security" system.

After this I tried file abuse report to get this script removed. Nothing happened. I still got teleport home. I tried make the owner turn it off. He act like asshole and just laugh. I neg rate him. The next day I am tripple neg rated by at least 3 accounts.

The funny thing is that two weeks ago Linden Lab forced me to grant access for one griefer to one of my malls. I used the normal ban feature on my land, which does not teleport people home or crash them, but just forces them to fly 10m high and cross the land at that altitute. Still, I even received WARNING from Lindens because the griefer had land behind my mall and it is obviously unacceptable for one griefer to fly 10m high to cross my land. Well, after I unbanned her it only took a few days until she litter my mall with billboards to defame and insult respected Second Life residents.

I must say this frustrate me. The TOS is enforced inconsistently and rating system is completely broken. Maybe the only thing that can be done to change anything is gather 100 people and neg rate every owner of teleport-home "security" scripts and maybe the creators of those scripts too. Or post on the forum who those people are and encourage people visit there and drop their ratings. Such as Candy Manray in Grizedale 70, 122. I encourage everybody appropriately rate such people and change rating if they stop teleporting and crashing residents.

Sorry. Need to chose my words more carefully. I am in favor of throttling tools to scale up to millions of people.

Assuming that you didn't own land completely surrounding hers on all four sides, which I somehow doubt you did, I find this ridiculous. What the hell are the ban tools there for if we can't choose who to ban? So you can ban a griefer ... but then they can just whine to the Lindens, who will tell you to unban them?! That's just crap.

Frankly, if a Linden told me to unban someone, but there are other ways for that person to get to where they have to go, then said Linden can kiss me ass - because that ISNT against the ToS, and I'm increasingly finding that the Lindens seem to just make shit up as they go along, rather than enforce the rules that are in place.

I've taken to ignoring several things that I've been told by individual Lindens, because they don't seem to know what they're talking about half the time. I'll let the ToS be my guide, not PissyMood Linden who wants to create new exception rulings on the fly to suit themselves. The Lindens REALLY need to start reading the ToS and enforcing it consistently.

Probably their way of encouraging bottom up dispute resolution.. Just start doing a poor job of it themselves.

Well, in this particular case one could argue that it forced her to fly 10m up to cross ban bars on my land as my land was on two sides of her parcel, including side facing telehub. However I see BIG difference between making selected griefer cross land at 10m altitute on one hand and sending random people to their homepoint on other hand. One is protective measure, but the other is simply griefing if you ask me.

I gotta say, Anshe, this story gave me a good laugh. Don't get me wrong, I think those instant ban scripts are excessively mean.

But... it makes me want to respond ... CAPTAIN KIRK STYLE!!!!! (Meant in humor)


Captain's log ... Stardate ... eight six seven ... fiiive three oh nine...
we've... encountered an alien life...form that has been ... attacking local travellers in the edges of Federation space!
Suddenly... sensors lit up! A tiny undeveloped moon was .... being released for use! Starfleet in...structed me to snatch it up for Federation use!

We were in high orbit of the planet when... without warning! Evil Romulans fired at my ship... without even de...cloaking~!
Scotty! We... need power to warp engines... now!
Scotty: I cahnt doo eet cap'n, tha' compoooter's gone haywire!

Ohura! Send an... emergency distress signal to starbase nine one one! Code green cash-flow emergency!
Ohura: Captain, a starfleet Linden class starship is already en route... they're hailing on long range communications. I'll put them on screen?
main screen: This is Captain Liason of the Linden class Federation starship PaysTheRent. Our cryptologists have decracked the secret messages coming from the Grizledale trade route... apparently a strict security system is jaming your computers and forcing your ship away!

We've .... GOT ... to DO ... SOME-thing. Bones!
Bones: Dammit Anshe I'm a Doctor, not a land barron!
Liason: There's something more, Anshe... apparently this script specifically targets federation ships!
Spock: Curious!
Liason: What's more, the previous owner of the released moon was the same person who created the script! It's a trap! Get out of there!

Ohura, hail the owner of the planet... I want to ... talk to... him and or her!
Main screen: (an ominous figure of a Romulan appears on the screen) OMFGROTFLMAO!!!1 i bated u hear w/ open moon & PWNEDED u'r ship and h4xx0r3d u'r computers while still cloak! I R the 1337! OMG LOL!!!!!!!111

Spock... call in re...inforcements! bom-BARD the planet with... anti-matter!
(said planet is obliterated with 4 sets of anti-matter volleys, 3 volleys too many past being sufficient)

(end of Kirk reading)
Yeah, it sounded like you were restricting access to their if you owned land how you described.

And did you report them and did Linden Lab take action? You're telling a very one-sided story here.

I think a lot of us agree to this, but it's hard to say as we're hearing one side here.

That's irresponsible, Anshe. Do people go around encouraging everyone to neg rate you because you're a land baron and they disagree with how you deal with land you own? No.

I do find that this script is irresponsible - it should give a person a grace period to move off the land, and it should IM the person and let them know. It's discourteous and reckless.

Actually, a lot of people do and have. Just wanted to point that out.

I thought your little trek skit was *very* funny! haha.. I also want whatever drugs you are on!