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Bann Christmas at Schools in the United States? What's next?

Blake Rockwell
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12-08-2004 05:10
Because of this seperation of Church and State..now these ACLU people or whomever is trying to have the Holiday Celebration of Christmas banned from Schools. Next they will be saying because we pay Real Estate Personal Property Tax to the Government we can't Celebrate Christmas at home..THIS IS F*CKING RIDICULAS!!
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Kris Ritter
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12-08-2004 05:14
I absolutely do think they should ban Christmas in schools. Or at least make it optional.

I am not religious. I absolutely do not believe in a Christ or a God. And yet every year at school I was forced to join in their christian religious celebrations.
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Blake Rockwell
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12-08-2004 05:20
NO one is forced..if you don't want to Celebrate it..don't.
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Kris Ritter
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12-08-2004 05:43
From: Blake Rockwell
NO one is forced..if you don't want to Celebrate it..don't.


I didnt realise you were at my school! I was FORCED. I can choose to get away from it at home, sure. I can't when I have to attend mandatory lessons where they preach religion to us, and teach us all about christmas and participate in christmas related activities.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm happy to learn about it, as long as it isnt forced down my throat as 'the way i am supposed to live my life' which it was.

They should learn to respect all beliefs and religions, and those who choose not to hold any.

So why do they actively promote christmas to all while denying people of other faiths or lack thereof of from pursuing their own beliefs in a similar 'sponsored' way?
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12-08-2004 05:56
hmm..Ironic..IF you disagree with "In God We Trust" then why the hell are you in the United States? lol.
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Kris Ritter
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12-08-2004 06:00
From: Blake Rockwell
hmm..Ironic..IF you disagree with "In God We Trust" then why the hell are you in the United States? lol.


Oh, Blake. You are SO opening yourself up to a right royal battle on the forums there.

I really hope some of your fellow Americans come along to pick you the hell to pieces for telling them that they are unamerican if they don't believe in your one true religion.

I'll leave you to it, since I'm not one of your fellow Americans :)
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12-08-2004 06:03
From: Blake Rockwell
hmm..Ironic..IF you disagree with "In God We Trust" then why the hell are you in the United States? lol.


I didn't realize Jesus was the only god. Color me surprised.

If you don't believe in seperation of church and state --

--then why the hell are YOU in the United States? rotflmao
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12-08-2004 06:11
From: Blake Rockwell
hmm..Ironic..IF you disagree with "In God We Trust" then why the hell are you in the United States? lol.

Ok Blakey Flakey. You rolled it out and stepped on it now. Here is your ASSHAT :mad:
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Blake Rockwell
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12-08-2004 06:12
Just a point and example..not saying anyone is UnAmerican. If I didn't believe in Nazi Germany..I would try my damness to get the hell away from it. Of course there are gonna be people that try to change it. What people want to believe or religion they want to practice is their preference. I don't think anyone should be forced to do anything as far as religion..I think schools should allow everyones beliefs..weather they be Jewish..Chinese..whatever. Take 1 hour in how ever many class rooms to acknowledge each ones beliefs..if you are athiest..then you don't need a class room to acknowledge any belief.
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12-08-2004 06:13
Oh and in answer???? Those that don't believe in god are in the United States because I and many like me gave the fucking best years of their life in uniform to insure they didn't have to believe in god. Happy ???? :mad:
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12-08-2004 06:14
From: Lecktor Hannibal
Ok Blakey Flakey. You rolled it out and stepped on it now. Here is your ASSHAT :mad:


Blakey Flakey... hehe

I'm grabbing his profile pic, and am going to use it in my "snow particle" gizmo. Walla... instant Blakey Flakey's.

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12-08-2004 06:17
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Blakey Flakey... hehe

I'm grabbing his profile pic, and am going to use it in my "snow particle" gizmo. Walla... instant Blakey Flakey's.

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I would normally say this .... :D ... but I'm too fucking pissed so I'll say this ....... :p
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Blake Rockwell
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12-08-2004 06:17
My point is..you gave your time to insure Freedom of Religion..not opress it. YOu have the right to practice or believe whatever you want. Though I don't do much preying..If iam at a school and bow my head and prey..should I or anyone be arrested or forced not to do so?
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12-08-2004 06:18
From: Blake Rockwell
My point is..you gave your time to insure Freedom of Religion..not opress it. YOu have the right to practice or believe whatever you want. Though I don't do much preying..If iam at a school and bow my head and prey..should I or anyone be arrested or forced not to do so?

Have you noticed you spend a lot of your time in here back pedaling ??
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Blake Rockwell
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12-08-2004 06:23
If there is a State sponsered school which should abide by "Seperation of Church and State" so be it..but I hope it never comes down to a Police State where individuals cannot bow thier head silently in preyer and then be put away in Prison for it. That's basically my point.
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12-08-2004 06:25
From: Blake Rockwell
If there is a State sponsered school which should abide by "Seperation of Church and State" so be it..but I hope it never comes down to a Police State where individuals cannot bow thier head silently in preyer and then be put away in Prison for it. That's basically my point.


Ok. Remind me... how does this relate to the indignant thread title " Bann(sic) Christmas at Schools in the United States? What's next?"

Oh. Btw, for those that didn't notice, Blake said...

From: someone
hmm..Ironic..IF you disagree with "In God We Trust" then why the hell are you in the United States? lol.


:p
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12-08-2004 06:28
From: Lecktor Hannibal
I would normally say this .... :D ... but I'm too fucking pissed so I'll say this ....... :p


Forecast for Tribal Drums tonight... 100% chance of Blakey Flakey's, possibly heavy at times. Signficant accumulations are expected.

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12-08-2004 06:30
From: Blake Rockwell
hmm..Ironic..IF you disagree with "In God We Trust" then why the hell are you in the United States? lol.


Oh, I see. Forcing Christianity on people is just fine and dandy, but anyone who would force you to respect people of other religions and beliefs by not allowing you to have Christian specific rituals practiced in public schools is unamerican and should leave the country? Typical. And people wonder why some of us have such a bad attitude towards Christians.
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Blake Rockwell
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12-08-2004 06:31
Just what I mean't..what's next? Is there gonna be a Police State? As far as the "In God We Trust" statement...If I went to China and the Majority of the beliefs in schools practiced Buddism..and I don't believe in it..should I complain about it? The Majority may soon change in the United States regarding religion..and what the Majority believes I can only voice my opinion..if I hate it that much..I have no choice but to accept it or leave until it changes. I would not however be offended if I attended a Chinese school and had to respect the Majorities belief.
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12-08-2004 06:33
From: Blake Rockwell
Just what I mean't..what's next? Is there gonna be a Police State? As far as the "In God We Trust" statement...If I went to China and the Majority of the beliefs in schools practiced Buddism..and I don't believe in it..should I complain about it? The Majority may soon change in the United States regarding religion..and what the Majority believes I can only voice my opinion..if I hate it that much..I have no choice but to accept it or leave until it changes.
The above asshat does not reflect ny point of view nor that of any other American...American are united in apologizing for his retardedness.

Heya dumbass....she doesn't Live in America, and god hates you now :eek:
Kris Ritter
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12-08-2004 06:34
Are you sure you shouldn't stop now, Blake? If there is one thing you should have learned by now, it is that you are not good at digging yourself out of your own holes with more clarification of your opinions :p
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12-08-2004 06:35
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hmm..Ironic..IF you disagree with "In God We Trust" then why the hell are you in the United States? lol.


Hmmmm.... Are you implying we have or should have the same type of government as in say, Iran? Weren't our soldiers just fighting to get rid of such type government in Afghanistan under the Taliban?

The very foundations of this country are based on a secular government and freedom of religion. The founders of this great Nation came here because of religious prosecution, if I remember correctly...

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12-08-2004 06:36
Religion does not belong in public schools. If you want your kids to have xian rituals as part of their school day, send them to parochial school. That's what they're for. The majority does not have a right to coerce children to participate in their rituals.
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Blake Rockwell
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12-08-2004 06:36
I think 70% of Americans do believe in God? Check the polls.
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12-08-2004 06:38
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Hmmmm.... Are you implying we have or should have the same type of government as in say, Iran? Weren't our soldiers just fighting to get rid of such type government in Afghanistan under the Taliban?

The very foundations of this country are based on a secular government and freedom of religion. The founders of this great Nation came here because of religious prosecution, if I remember correctly...

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You might wanna ask Kris where she lives :p
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