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Talen Morgan
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05-11-2005 15:43
Now I have several reasons for hating peta peoples....fucking hypocrites

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaKillsAnimals.cfm
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05-11-2005 15:47
Don't hate me Talen! :(

I would check out the source... doesn't seem to fair and balanced to me :eek:


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"PETA Kills Animals" is a project of the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF), a nonprofit organization dedicated to protecting the full range of choices that American consumers currently enjoy. In addition to malicious animal-rights activists, we stand up to the "food police," environmental scaremongers, neo-prohibitionists, meddling bureaucrats, and other self-anointed saints who claim to "know what's best" for you.

Our "Daily Headlines" service provides valuable information about these activists, and analysis of their activities. If you would like to sign up for this e-mail service, click here. CCF's other websites include AnimalScam.com, CSPIscam.com, PhysicianScam, and the award-winning ActivistCash.com.

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05-11-2005 15:57
From: Talen Morgan
Now I have several reasons for hating peta peoples....fucking hypocrites

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaKillsAnimals.cfm




Penn & Teller did a great show about Peta. Confirmed what I have always figured a bunch of wackos. If you get a chance check out Penn & Tellers Bullshit. I think you can rent it on DVD now.
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05-11-2005 16:03
You get more time in prison than killing a baby in a DWI crash. If it does not walk on 2 feet, have 2 arms, and look human and talk like a human does. It is an animal and is food. Horses are excellent sources of food, low calories high in protein and cannot contract hoof and mouth disease. Dogs are an excellent source of protein. Cats high in fat and cholestrol. Don't eat cats.
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05-11-2005 16:09
From: Pussy Sunset
You get more time in prison than killing a baby in a DWI crash. If it does not walk on 2 feet, have 2 arms, and look human and talk like a human does. It is an animal and is food. Horses are excellent sources of food, low calories high in protein and cannot contract hoof and mouth disease. Dogs are an excellent source of protein. Cats high in fat and cholestrol. Don't eat cats.


Well said, Pussy!


































oh god that was fun to type :D
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Talen Morgan
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05-11-2005 16:14
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Don't hate me Talen! :(

I would check out the source... doesn't seem to fair and balanced to me :eek:

I actually confirmed it through several sources after reading it....ok I won't hate you but you have to get away from those people.

The fact that they rake in millions but would rather kill than care for these animals is mind boggling....almost as mind boggling as the chick I saw last winter holding up a peta sign that said "Meat is Murder" while wearing a leather jacket :p
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05-11-2005 16:18
From: Talen Morgan
I actually confirmed it through several sources after reading it....ok I won't hate you but you have to get away from those people.

The fact that they rake in millions but would rather kill than care for these animals is mind boggling....almost as mind boggling as the chick I saw last winter holding up a peta sign that said "Meat is Murder" while wearing a leather jacket :p


I see where you are coming from Talen, but there is hypocrasy in most organizations (church, government, etc.).

To me it is balancing out the good that comes out of organized social groups in proportion to the garbage. :)
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Chance Abattoir
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05-11-2005 16:28
I wonder if they receive funding from PETA's opposition?

Note that killing animals might not be against the organization's principles itself if the killing is ethical. Imprisoning an animal (that won't be adopted and cared for properly) in a building could be seen as abusing that animal's rights. However, they can't really let them go into the wild either, so what to do with them? According to PETA's website, their main focus is on ending the suffering of animals at the hands of man. It may seem hypocritical, but if you have a better suggestion maybe you could email them.

The key words are "ethical treatment." Not "don't kill." Death happens, torture doesn't have to. (I'm saying this based on what their reasoning would be, not my own.)

I personally don't care about PETA or what they stand for because most domesticated animals are genetic abominations created by man over hundreds or thousands of years, and not vital to the ecology. I would also never give money to a corporation whose modus operandi is based on pulling heart strings.
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05-11-2005 16:35
First, I think PETA is crazy. That out of the way, the animals they put down were put down for the same reason you put down your most beloved pet whatever because it was suffering horribly because of cancer or something.

I am NOT standing up for PETA, but I'd rather dump all over them for real reasons, not this sort of nonsense. For all their faults, they do try to place all animals given to them, and only put down those that are suffering with no hope of recovery.
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05-11-2005 16:43
From: Talen Morgan
....almost as mind boggling as the chick I saw last winter holding up a peta sign that said "Meat is Murder" while wearing a leather jacket :p


Isn't killing anything "murder?" No matter what euphemisms we use or what government sactions allow for it, killing is still killing. -And I'm not saying that killing is necessarily wrong either. Chimpanzees don't need meat to live (neither do humans, btw), but they organize parties to hunt and kill monkeys in order to establish social hierarchies.

But yes, a girl wearing leather and talking about "murdering" animals is retarded. Now if she was talking about torturing animals, then attacking factory farming with a different slogan might be okay with her leather jacket on. Unfortunately many activists don't know what their points are no matter what side they are on. As long as they have a side, that seems to be good enough for them. :rolleyes:
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05-11-2005 16:48
From: Red Mars
First, I think PETA is crazy.


To relegate someone to the realm of "crazy" is about as intelligent as questioning their sexuality if they disagree with you.

There are other ways to keep from being flamed than being retarded. ;)
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05-11-2005 16:54
"PETA Kills Animals" is a project of the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF), a nonprofit organization dedicated to protecting the full range of choices that American consumers currently enjoy. In addition to malicious animal-rights activists, we stand up to the "food police," environmental scaremongers, neo-prohibitionists, meddling bureaucrats, and other self-anointed saints who claim to "know what's best" for you.

GASP!

The CCF, the well-known, well-funded front for all the junk food and fast food megacorporations of the world are bitching about the well-known, well-funded group that seeks to get people boycotting their businesses?With a smear campaign?

Land sakes, I do declare! I need a scorecard to keep track of who's the pawn of whom!

Somehow, it seems to me that there is just a big, steaming pie of hypocrisy, with more than enough slices to go around for everyone involved. This is the pot calling the kettle calling the pot black.
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05-11-2005 17:03
From: Rebeccah Baysklef

Somehow, it seems to me that there is just a big, steaming pie of hypocrisy, with more than enough slices to go around for everyone involved. This is the pot calling the kettle calling the pot black.


Ever notice how "Truth" commercials are always anti-cigarette companies, but not anti-smoking? Do they get their money from tobacco companies?
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05-11-2005 17:13
From: Chance Abattoir
Ever notice how "Truth" commercials are always anti-cigarette companies, but not anti-smoking? Do they get their money from tobacco companies?


My understanding is that the irony of the situation is that they do. That the Government got all those buckazoids from the cigarette companies, and then use that money to fund the Truthout groups. Of course, I could be misunderstanding.

From the way a lot of those companies behaved over the decades, the current crop of truth ads make me a believer in karma *heh*

On the other hand, I also happen to be wholeheartedly against smoking bans in restaurants and bars....whlie at the same time, admitting that restaurants and bars are a lot nicer to be in when people aren't allowed to smoke in them.

But at least I wear my hypocrisy like a pair of hiphuggers :)
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05-11-2005 17:17
From: Rebeccah Baysklef

But at least I wear my hypocrisy like a pair of hiphuggers :)


pleather hiphuggers! :D
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05-11-2005 17:48
From: Rebeccah Baysklef
My understanding is that the irony of the situation is that they do. That the Government got all those buckazoids from the cigarette companies, and then use that money to fund the Truthout groups. Of course, I could be misunderstanding.

From the way a lot of those companies behaved over the decades, the current crop of truth ads make me a believer in karma *heh*

On the other hand, I also happen to be wholeheartedly against smoking bans in restaurants and bars....whlie at the same time, admitting that restaurants and bars are a lot nicer to be in when people aren't allowed to smoke in them.

But at least I wear my hypocrisy like a pair of hiphuggers :)



Hrm... So they get their money from the tobacco companies, make commercials that attack the tobacco companies (but not smoking), and simultaneously make me feel that smoking is an antidisestablishmentarianist activity. Just saying...

New marketing ploy or genuine attack campaign? (suspicious of karma)
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Talen Morgan
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05-11-2005 17:59
From: Red Mars
First, I think PETA is crazy. That out of the way, the animals they put down were put down for the same reason you put down your most beloved pet whatever because it was suffering horribly because of cancer or something.

I am NOT standing up for PETA, but I'd rather dump all over them for real reasons, not this sort of nonsense. For all their faults, they do try to place all animals given to them, and only put down those that are suffering with no hope of recovery.


Check again....one of the co founders of PETA left over just this issue siting that the animals could be kept alive at a cost but PETA thought the money was better spent elsewhere...the animals they have been putting down weren't sick or suffering....just unwanted.

Although I linked to one article there are many articles out on the net confirming what they are doing....some by former employee's.

Also the former co-founder that left started another animal shelter that doesn't under any circumstances put down a healthy animal.
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05-11-2005 18:16
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fucking hypocrites


All extremists are.

"Do as I tell you, not as I do" tends to be their favorite philosophy....
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05-11-2005 20:05
I have my official PETA t-shirt - on the front it reads:

P eople
E ating
T asty
A nimals

and on the back, my favorite quote:

"My ancestors did not claw their way up to the top of the food chain so I could eat tofu!"

:D
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05-11-2005 21:22
Don't really care about that site or if it's biased or whatever, PETA=extremist, duh. Everybody knows that...really if they ever try to tell me that I can't have my $2.00 cheeseburger I'll #$%@ing rip them a new one. :D

And that's all I have to say about that. :)
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05-12-2005 04:11
From: Garoad Kuroda
Don't really care about that site or if it's biased or whatever, PETA=extremist, duh. Everybody knows that...really if they ever try to tell me that I can't have my $2.00 cheeseburger I'll #$%@ing rip them a new one. :D

And that's all I have to say about that. :)



I have to find the video...there was a Peta protest in front of a kentucky fried chicken in D.C. and this guy and his friend bought a tub of chicken and went out and ate it in front of them :D ....this girl said she was calling the police on them for harrassment :p
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05-12-2005 06:08
Lies and propaganda from a corporate front group desperate to protect their bottom line? What a way to start the day. Does the OP own a franchise? Get your torture lab trashed? Or have you got some other rationalization for your reactionary hatred to the truth about systemic corporate abuse of animals?

No rational being with an ounce of empathy reacts well to what goes on in a factory farm or a torture lab. That's what makes it necessary to attack the organizations putting the truth out there rather than facing the issue. The good news is that the American people aren't buying it, the reglation and enforcement are improving, and they're just going to get tighter and tighter until the zoosadists are strangled.
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05-12-2005 07:11
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PETA=extremist, duh.


Actually, PETA is about as moderate as animal rights activist groups get. What is more mainstream in animal rights than PETA? They're the "upscale chic" arm of the movement, and as such they accomplish things like national media campaigns and legislative lobbying that smaller or more idealistic groups can't or won't manage. They bring money, celebrity, and other forms of influence into the movement.

My point of view is that the death of an animal is not so great a harm as the life of suffering modern livestock are bred to endure. We have essentially built an artificial hell into which we invite billions of beings every year to a life of confused pain.

This is not done to prolong or sustain our lives; overindulgence in animal products has created epidemic obesity and heart disease, and the hormones, antibiotics, and pesticides concentrated in these products may be contributing to soaring rates of asthma and food allergies.

Perhaps worse, this industry breeds a callousness that begins with the person who swings the hammer, inserts the anal electrode, waves the blade or pulls the trigger, and spreads out in diminishing waves to everyone that person contacts. It makes us, as a society, more savage, and more likely to tolerate and even inflict human suffering.
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05-12-2005 08:35
From: Vudu Suavage
Actually, PETA is about as moderate as animal rights activist groups get. What is more mainstream in animal rights than PETA? They're the "upscale chic" arm of the movement, and as such they accomplish things like national media campaigns and legislative lobbying that smaller or more idealistic groups can't or won't manage. They bring money, celebrity, and other forms of influence into the movement.

My point of view is that the death of an animal is not so great a harm as the life of suffering modern livestock are bred to endure. We have essentially built an artificial hell into which we invite billions of beings every year to a life of confused pain.

This is not done to prolong or sustain our lives; overindulgence in animal products has created epidemic obesity and heart disease, and the hormones, antibiotics, and pesticides concentrated in these products may be contributing to soaring rates of asthma and food allergies.

Perhaps worse, this industry breeds a callousness that begins with the person who swings the hammer, inserts the anal electrode, waves the blade or pulls the trigger, and spreads out in diminishing waves to everyone that person contacts. It makes us, as a society, more savage, and more likely to tolerate and even inflict human suffering.


PETA as an organization aside - you are absolutely correct about how animals are being treated by industry. I don't have a problem with eating meat once in awhile, I come from a family of hunters and we ate a lot of deer meat growing up. We only took what we needed and we killed the deer as humanely as possible.

What I find abhorent is how the animals are treated now before they are killed for food. It's horrible for them and it's not real good for any of us either. Crowding them into small pens breeds disease, because of that, they have to pump them full of antibiotics and hormones. This causes us to build resistance to antibiotics and to have abnormal levels of hormones.

Herd animals can be treated humanely as well as chickens but it would cost more. Personally, I'm willing to pay more, eat less and to select free range chicken and beef. While I think that PETA has actually endangered both people and animals with some of their radical stunts, they at least have done one thing; they have educated the public about how animals are treated by industry. The only way the cruelty will stop is when more people speak with their money.

Note that when I say industry, I mean huge conglomerations. Very few actual "farms" even exist anymore. They have been bought out. I'm all for making a profit, but not at the expense of causing another being extreme discomfort or pain and not at the expense of the health of the public.

The way that industry is treating animals currently is akin to how the non-native buffalo hunters moved into the plaines and slaughtered all the buffalo, leaving their carcass to rot and only taking their hides. They nearly killed off the entire population of both buffalo and people for profit. It was stupid, short sighted and cruel.

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05-12-2005 09:05
Reposted from the last round of LOLROFMLOLOLAOPETALOLPETA posts.


pandastrong's PETA joke of the week:

1. Browse to http://www.google.com in your Internet browser of choice

2. Click on the "images" link

3. Type in "vivisection", and then press the "search" button

Clearly there are not enough images returned. I am personally disgusted that organizations such as PETA, in their whack-job attempts to promote cruelty-free lifestyles, have limited search-engine technology in this manner.

Not only are they self-serving hypocrites, but they have in essence ruined the Internet for the rest of us normal people.
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