PETA kills animals!

It is part of numerous class action lawsuit settlements. Do you really think it is voluntary?

Ethical treatment does not mean keep the animal alive at all costs no matter what the circumstance.

The organization is people for the ETHICAL TREATMENT of animals, and not people for keeping animals alive no matter what. It is ethical and humane to euthanize an animal that is suffering and sick, and it makes sense to use the skin after to make a leather jacket.

Most extremists (leaders) seem to have the same personality- self-rightious loudmouths more interested in power and attention than anything else.


My problem with PETA is they take a good cause (kindness to animals) and take it over a cliff. For example, they had a campaign that compared factory farmed animals to holocaust victims!- after all, both were treated badly and kept in crowded conditions, right? Of course, this just pissed everyone off and got them a lot of attention. End result? People were insulted, people who cared about animal welfare were, by association, made to look like insensitive jerks, and no animals were helped.

The thing is, if you went to Alabama in 1840 or Germany in 1940 and compared blacks or Jews to "real" human beings, you would get that same sort of incredulous outrage (and probably be lynched/executed for your trouble). Some days all you can do is plant the meme and wait for the slow students to catch up.

Then again, if I went back in time and explained to someone in a concentration camp that they would be compared to farm animals I bet I'd get strangled for having the audacity to suggest such a thing.

Personally, I'm somewhat critical about the conditions about factory farms. But if I express opinion through a wacky, insulting add campaign, I'm going to be percieved as an attention grubbing nutcase and few will take my cause seriously.

Priceless.

Your tone may be counter-productive there, Arcadia, but I agree it's better that the <factory farm = death camp> comparison was made, and find it apt for communicating the condition of livestock. If one thinks such a comparison de-values human life, then one is missing the point.

I never suggested it was voluntary. I'm just questioning if they have any influence on how that money gets spent. Most actual money from class action lawsuits does not go to plaintiffs. Most plaintiffs in class action cases don't even know that they they are the plaintiffs. *-as far as I know. Maybe a law student can explain better how all the smokers have benefitted from class action lawsuits against tabacco companies.*

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Well, I am not a law student but I am a lawyer. Is that as good?

No person can be a plaintiff in class action law suit, or any legal action for that matter, unless they agree to be. All plaintiffs must agree to have their legal rights represented before they are part of an action, unless they are incompetent, or a minor, and then the action is brought on their behalf by a guardian ad litum.

It is not possibie to be an "UNAWARE PLAINTIFF." A person may be an eligible member of a class without being aware of it, or have legal grounds for a suit, called standing, but the very word plaintiff presents additional legal significance.

Perosn killing a dog with a bow and arrow attacking a person 10 years because domestic animal laws. And, was found guilty of animall abuse.
Same area Baby got killed in a DWI Crash. Involuntary Manslaughter 6 MONTHS PROBATION.

Eat a dog they are not intelligent and a very good source of protein. Animal Right Activities care about animals not humans. Go out and be cannibalistic. Seems like killing an animal is a worse crime than killing another human.

Well considering how some humans behave - I can see the logic in that.

I've known some animals that were a lot more honorable and decent than many humans.

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Just cause you did not mention it...

Chimps also *eat* the meat of those monkeys.

The"natural" diet of Primates in the wild is typically fruits, nuts, roots, BUGS, leaves and ... the occaisional small bird, monkey, rodent or whatever they catch.

When they *can't* catch such things they supplement their diet with ... MORE BUGS! (mmm) and they get sick if they cant find them.

If as humans (another kind of primate) you want to emulate this "natural" diet, the occaisional chicken breast would seem to be in order (unless you want the grub substitute.)

This is just posted to dispell the popular misconception that primates are vegetarians.

And as for chimps, they like other things besides bugs...Thirsty Monkey

I would like to say that the amount of pure HATRED spewing out on this thread, towards PETA and others astounds me.

Of all the things to get rabid about (and there are some pretty rabid poisionous posts here), this is not the best choice IMO. PETA is "wacky" and maybe misguided in some things but ... Jeez!

Mis-guided Hippies who are *trying* to do something good in the world, regardless of whether they succeed at it or not, is hardly worth this level of vituperative rhetoric.

I mean most people here are Americans right? And instead of getting upset about the fact that you live in a police state or George Bush or the billions wasted on bombs instead of food, you are foaming at the mouth about PETA?

cripes!

Rose what you just said killing a 3 month old baby by a DWI driver gets 6 months probation for involuntary manslaughter and you rather see a person get 10 years in jail for killing a dog attacking a 70 year old woman. You make me sick.

Misguided hippies? Try again they are much more than that .....as for hate ..,no, I really don't hate them but I do think the way they conduct themseles they come off as a bunch of bungling fucktards without a clue.

Bullshit.

Troy Loney and Steven Paulson served six months of a nine-month sentence for tying a Siberian husky to a tree and shooting it to death with a bow and arrow. The dog had attacked nobody - the men claimed they had tried and failed to find a home for the dog and decided to put it out of its "misery", but neither the judge nor the jury bought that explanation. They used one arrow, ripping it out of the dog repeatedly and backing up for each shot - target practice.

If you've got another archery case, please present a citation. The facts of this case can be found at http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297787.shtml (among other sites).

I believe they do. Remember when the Cigarette Companies were sued a few years back? Part of the settlement was to give money to Anti-Smoking groups. I think the Truth company was one of them. So ya they do get there money from them.. I think LOL!

PETA kills animals…….. YA PETA stands for “People Eating Tasty Animals”! mmmmmmmmmmmmmm Realy no idea about what you are talking about I don’t know why they killed them and if it is right or wrong. But other things I can talk about.

Some people have pointed out how hurting a animal gets you more time in jail then hurting a human. That is the problem with Mandatory Minimums. We have the same problem with Hate Crime laws. A person that is not White is a animal just as a white person is and they are EQUAL. If a white man kills a black man he gets 10 more years for a hate crime. If a white man kills me (I am white) he does not get more time……….Am I worth less then a black man? No we are equal!

No about People anti Eating meat. As a Wiccan I tend to end up talking to some of the anti-meat people. One sat there and asked how can you eat meat it brakes the Rede (do as thou will, BUT hurt none) and in a way that is true and untrue. Wicca being a nature based religion we try and work with in nature. In nature we are meat eaters (see your mouth for the canine teeth for proof) so to take out self out of nature does two things. #1 takes us Wiccan away from our religion. #2 it causes a imbalance.

Eat meat! Wear clothes made from animals. RESPECT the animals in all ways. I will not eat Veal because of how the animal is treated……..but man when I did eat it was it good. Respect and honor them for what they have given up so you can live.

You are right.
Where do they get off trying to help animals anyway?

We should report them to the Gestapo ...

Oh, wait, ... isn't it called Homeland Security now?

Maybe we should tap their phones and record all their conversations and emails.
THEY MIGHT BE TERRORISTS!

Oh wait, ... we already do that too.

How about if we ruin their finances and spread false rumours about them in the media?

Oh, wait...



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Dianne Mechanique - not a PETA supporter, just reasonable.

Actually it happened in NY about 8 months ago. A dog attacked an old lady the next door neighbor came out with his bow and arrow and shot the dog. And, got 10 years for killing a dog.

Teaches him to shoot better. Hitting that defenseless animal and missing that mean animal eating old lady. He is so bad. I hope he gets 10 more because they forget about him………. Oh wait. Now that is just stupid. But again the reason minimum sentencing is bad.

A. I only quoted and responded to this: Seems like killing an animal is a worse crime than killing another human.

B. I said nothing about justice or injustice pertaining to a 3 month old baby killed by a drunk driver.

C. Injustice on one issue is not balanced by rendering less justice on another.

The comparison is not logical, unless of course, it was a dog driving the car while intoxicated. Frankly, I don't think they should be allowed to drive unless they are leashed and certaintly not while intoxicated.

So... cough up a fur ball on that one.

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Ah, thanks for the clarification. So what I should have said was "member of a class."