Do you believe in God?
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Rose Karuna
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12-09-2004 13:50
From: Xtopherxaos Ixtab The heaven/hell replies brings up a metaphysical question that I've had for years..
Is there A heaven and A hell?
My point being is that my heaven would most likely be hell to my fourth grade english teacher.
My heaven: Talking animals, boundless forrests of the finest weed, everyone is nekkid and well endowed, keggers every 10 minutes, pizza appears at the mearest thought...
Her heaven: Books, order, cherubs with harps, clouds and robes, limitless pondering on the nature of man and his sin, choir practice every 5 minutes, correct grammer...*yawn*...etc. If there were a heaven, yours would come pretty close to mine Xtopherxaos - except I'd ad that that keggers every 10 minutes, pizza and never gaining a pound. 
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Isis Becquerel
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12-09-2004 13:55
From: Chip Midnight I haven't seen that billboard, but that's hilarious (in a disturbing sort of way). I think perhaps what I object to most about religion is how bloody patronizing it is.
That Freud quote in your sig rocks! Not to mention that it is just plain bloody. (and thanks I love to hate him so when he is right I have to give him credit  ) Rose you kill me! LMAO Who needs rivers of milk and honey when you can have rivers of Ganga tea and vodka.
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Marker Dinova
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12-09-2004 15:49
It's funny some people I saw flaming religion in some other thread voted pro-god here.. LOL
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Pirate Cotton
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12-09-2004 16:08
The two are not the same.
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Icon Serpentine
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12-09-2004 16:14
I'm a self-practicing bhuddist.
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Tori Parks
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12-10-2004 13:01
OMG !!! 56 % of you dont believe in God whats up with that ???  |
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Corwin Weber
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12-10-2004 13:09
From: Tori Parks OMG !!! 56 % of you dont believe in God whats up with that ??? What's the problem? |
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Beryl Greenacre
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12-10-2004 13:09
From: Tori Parks OMG !!! 56 % of you dont believe in God whats up with that ??? OMG!!! Actually, just over 65% of the people who have responded to this poll don't believe in god (at the time I make this post). Statistically speaking, either answer has a 50/50 chance of being right. So what's so shocking about these poll results?
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Xtopherxaos Ixtab
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12-10-2004 13:21
I dunno, Though I personally would kinda like to believe that there is some entity beyond our own existence pulling the strings, I can't discount someone else's assertion that life may be just a construct of physics and random circumstance...Somedays, when I look at the randomness that "good" and "evil" surface in the world, I find myself leaning toward that frame of mind...
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Garoad Kuroda
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12-10-2004 14:29
Athiests are going just as much on gut-feeling as believers are. Maybe the stuff we consider bad here is insignificant in "the grand scheme". Maybe 'the creator' isn't omnipotent (which isn't that hard to believe), and there's an evil force at work as well, or humans are doing it to themselves via "free will". Pain exists for a reason (anyone read about that girl that doesn't feel pain?). Disease exists for a reason (go ahead, try and figure out a way for nature to "work" with all the bad aspects of it taken out, it's complex enough as it is)... But, the existance of bad (or evil) things provides the opportunity for good too... Now I feel loopy...hahaha.. that's what you get for taking part in an argument that cannot be proven one way or the other...
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Chip Midnight
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12-10-2004 15:33
From: Garoad Kuroda Athiests are going just as much on gut-feeling as believers are. Nope. Not at all. That statement is based on a common misconception about what atheists believe. Atheists don't deny the possible existance of a god or gods (for the simple reason that you can't prove a negative), they just feel there is insuficient evidence or reason to believe... for the same reasons we don't believe in Santa, flying reindeer, the tooth fairy, and on and on. If you believed in everything you can't absolutely prove doesn't exist you'd have to believe in every possible idea of what "might" be without exception. I'm sure you agree that would be a rather silly thing to do.
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Olympia Rebus
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12-10-2004 16:06
From: Chip Midnight Nope. Not at all. That statement is based on a common misconception about what atheists believe. Atheists don't deny the possible existance of a god or gods (for the simple reason that you can't prove a negative), they just feel there is insuficient evidence or reason to believe... for the same reasons we don't believe in Santa, flying reindeer, the tooth fairy, and on and on. If you believed in everything you can't absolutely prove doesn't exist you'd have to believe in every possible idea of what "might" be without exception. I'm sure you agree that would be a rather silly thing to do. ...or, for another example, I don't Bill Gates will put me in his will. I don't believe I'll die tomorrow, nor do I believe I'll run into Jerry Springer or Ana Nicole Smith. All these things are theroreticly possible... but not likley enough to be for me to believe they'll come true. As for things that- to me- seem impossible, I'm always willing to believe if there's decent evidence. For example, if someone said cats could hold articulate conversations with humans I wouldn't buy it, based on my current knowledge and experiences of what a cat is capable of. If I then met a cat who could hold a conversation with me, ruling out trickery, I'd have to reasses my assumptions and beliefs based on new evidence. |
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Chip Midnight
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12-10-2004 16:38
From: Olympia Rebus If I then met a cat who could hold a conversation with me, ruling out trickery, I'd have to reasses my assumptions and beliefs based on new evidence. Now THAT would be cool! 
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Nolan Nash
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12-10-2004 17:17
I don't believe in God, but.... I believe in the power of rock’n’roll I believe that exxon can save my soul They pull your strings, You just don’t know it They pull mine too, But I try not to show it I don’t know what to say When you take your light away I try to do my very best And to disregard the rest When you leave what can you do? When you dream what do you see? I’m afraid it’s just too new Can you live as fast as me? I believe in the power of rock’n’roll I believe that exxon can save my soul They pull your strings, You just don’t know it They pull mine too, But I try not to show it I got my baby on a chain Because it helps to ease the pain Occam’s razor cuts so deep It’s the one thing I can keep When you leave what can you do? When you dream what do you see? I’m afraid it’s just too new Can you live as fast as me? I believe in the power of rock’n’roll I believe that exxon can save my soul They pull your strings, You just don’t know it They pull mine too, But I try not to show it I don’t know what to say When you take your light away I try to do my very best And to disregard the rest When you leave what can you do? When you dream what do you see? I’m afraid it’s just too new Can you live as fast as me? (Information Society- "Can you live as fast as me?"
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Torley Linden
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12-10-2004 17:33
From: Olympia Rebus
As for things that- to me- seem impossible, I'm always willing to believe if there's decent evidence. For example, if someone said cats could hold articulate conversations with humans I wouldn't buy it, based on my current knowledge and experiences of what a cat is capable of. If I then met a cat who could hold a conversation with me, ruling out trickery, I'd have to reasses my assumptions and beliefs based on new evidence.
Okay, I have my sights set on that cat as a future pet... I'd name her after Avril Lavigne, and give her a lil' guitar to play my faves like "Complicated" and "Things I'll Never Say" on! Remember folks, POLAR EXPRESS AIN'T A REAL STORY |
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Benjamin Opel
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12-10-2004 18:06
I believe that aliens brought it to earth
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Rose Karuna
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12-10-2004 19:03
I believe that Cats are Aliens.
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Nolan Nash
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12-10-2004 19:10
George Bush is a reptilian alien. If you watch him closely once in a great while you can see his holoprojectors flicker and catch a glimpse of the alien within. These reptiles have been here since the dawn of time and have always controlled everything.
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Torley Linden
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12-10-2004 19:19
From: Nolan Nash George Bush is a reptilian alien. If you watch him closely once in a great while you can see his holoprojectors flicker and catch a glimpse of the alien within. These reptiles have been here since the dawn of time and have always controlled everything. Shades of David Icke? |
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Eggy Lippmann
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12-11-2004 16:27
I believe in Torley.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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12-11-2004 17:18
I only believe in God while I'm listening to the fourth movement of Beethoven's Symphony No. 9.
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Gregg Torgeson
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12-11-2004 17:31
Just because no one beleives in him doesn't mean he doesn't exist! No one much beleives in me and I exist!!! ((looks down)---yup!
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Cross Lament
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12-11-2004 21:22
From: Garoad Kuroda Athiests are going just as much on gut-feeling as believers are. Gut feeling? Naw, all mine ever feel is all grumbly.  Heh, personally, I haven't seen anything that I would honestly consider proof for existance of a Supreme Being, or even need of one. I won't say it's impossible... but I'm waiting on some better evidence. From: someone Maybe the stuff we consider bad here is insignificant in "the grand scheme". S'kinda mean, though, making us suffer through all that crap without telling us what this Greater Good is all about. From: someone Maybe 'the creator' isn't omnipotent (which isn't that hard to believe), and there's an evil force at work as well, or humans are doing it to themselves via "free will". Pain exists for a reason (anyone read about that girl that doesn't feel pain?). Pain, as a physical sense interpreted by the mind, definitely exists for a reason: to keep us alive by warning us of danger. Pain, as a source, has a cause, but no 'reason' or 'purpose' beyond what we give it. From: someone Disease exists for a reason (go ahead, try and figure out a way for nature to "work" with all the bad aspects of it taken out, it's complex enough as it is)... Diseases exist because it's a successful niche for those particular forms of life; parasitism can be awfully convenient! Life on Earth is a complex web of interrelations, built up over a great deal of time. And bad is a very subjective term... what's itchy and annoying to you, is a meal for her offspring to the mosquito who just bit you. From: someone But, the existance of bad (or evil) things provides the opportunity for good too... If nothing bad ever happened from this day forward, we could still do good things, couldn't we? Of course, in the abstract sense, good can't really exist unless you have !good to compare it to, you're right. From: someone Now I feel loopy...hahaha.. that's what you get for taking part in an argument that cannot be proven one way or the other... It's fun, tho, innit?
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12-11-2004 21:23
From: Gregg Torgeson Just because no one beleives in him doesn't mean he doesn't exist! No one much beleives in me and I exist!!! ((looks down)---yup! I disbelieve!! *rolls d20* Aw, nuts. Yeah, I'm a geek. Shush. 
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Chip Midnight
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12-11-2004 21:33
From: Gregg Torgeson Just because no one beleives in him doesn't mean he doesn't exist! No one much beleives in me and I exist!!! ((looks down)---yup! The converse of your argument is also true. A majority of people believing a god exists does nothing to prove that it actually does.
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