9-11 Conspiracy Theorists
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Roxie Marten
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09-01-2006 11:55
From: Cannae Brentano Can somebody answer this question?
If there was a conspiracy, and the folks behind it were able to secretly plant explosives in three major buildings in NY, had the ability to remotely fly two planes into the world trade center, kill 3000 plus US civilians, send thousands of troops overseas into two countries, why they can't shut down silly little websites on 911 conspiracy theories made by people who don't have a clue about engineering or demolition? I guess the grainy footage and spooky music has the government shaking in their boots. I am tyring to figure out how they have managed to keep it a secret. A plot that big would take many many people and not one word from anyone. Not even a truck driver who delievered the several tons of explosives it would take. Hmmmm Rox |
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Cannae Brentano
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09-01-2006 11:55
From: Lorelei Patel Yeah, and I hear 5,000 Jews didn't show up for work that day at the WTC either. You (something I said rashly that I shouldn't, however, let it be known I have no patience with anti-Jewish bigots).
At any rate.
The stuff I was waiting on at work came through, so I'm going to go do something worthwhile now. And after that, I'll do something more productive than debating with paranoid peeps, like, say, bronzing my poop. |
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Faarin Blankes
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09-01-2006 11:57
Some conspiracy's might possibly be true about 9/11.. but most of them are insane ramblings from people with way too much time on their hands.
One thing's for certain though, it wasn't Bush Jr.'s idea... last time he had one of those, everything tasted purple for a week.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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09-01-2006 11:58
From: Roxie Marten You can't handle the truth. *I have always wanted to say that*  What truth is that dear? Half baked theories from people who have never spent 5 minutes with Flight Simulator? Let alone any time in the left hand seat of a airplane. People who have never spent any time getting thier hands dirty to see how metal reacts under heat and stress? Who would rather sit infront a computer and take everything that is spoon fed to them from any nut job with a video or book to sell. Turn off the X Files and go out in the real world and do some research. There is really is no cigarette smoking man pulling the strings. Take a intro flight lesson at the airport. With in 10 minutes you will be flying the airplane and say "Yes flying is really easier than driving a car" Go to http://www.abana.org/affiliates/affiliate_list.shtml This is the North American Artisan Blacksmiths Assocation. They are great people and would be happy to show you what happens when you heat metal. The list will give you names in your area to call. I am sorry if I am being harsh but thease stupid stories do nothing to honor those who have died or get to the root of how this could of been prevented. Rox PPSEL ABANA Member since 1989 HOW DARE YOU FIGHT IGNORANCE WITH LOGIC AND REASONING!! YOUR FIGHTING DIRTY!
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Zuzu Fassbinder
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09-01-2006 11:58
From: Richie Waves then WHAT does pull it mean??????? Actually, what they said was "Pullet", which is a term for a young hen. I think we all know what that means. 
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Cannae Brentano
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09-01-2006 11:59
From: Roxie Marten I am tyring to figure out how they have managed to keep it a secret.
A plot that big would take many many people and not one word from anyone.
Not even a truck driver who delievered the several tons of explosives it would take.
Hmmmm
Rox I'm sure there is a website with spooky music that explains this. The truth is out there. |
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Cannae Brentano
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09-01-2006 12:01
From: Faarin Blankes Some conspiracy's might possibly be true about 9/11.. but most of them are insane ramblings from people with way too much time on their hands.
One thing's for certain though, it wasn't Bush Jr.'s idea... last time he had one of those, everything tasted purple for a week. Oh come on. We all know that Bush has an IQ of 90. It says so on the internet. I'm sure he is more than capable of putting together 9/11. He had 8 months after all. |
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Billybob Goodliffe
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09-01-2006 12:04
I love how no conspiracy theorists are posting now, its all just us laughing at their percieved evils!
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Juro Kothari
Like a dog on a bone
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09-01-2006 12:07
The truth lies somewhere between the "official" truth and the conspiracy. 
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Roxie Marten
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09-01-2006 12:09
From: Billybob Goodliffe HOW DARE YOU FIGHT IGNORANCE WITH LOGIC AND REASONING!! YOUR FIGHTING DIRTY! Opps, me bad Rox |
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Richie Waves
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09-01-2006 12:10
From: Cannae Brentano Can somebody answer this question?
If there was a conspiracy, and the folks behind it were able to secretly plant explosives in three major buildings in NY, had the ability to remotely fly two planes into the world trade center, kill 3000 plus US civilians, send thousands of troops overseas into two countries, why they can't shut down silly little websites on 911 conspiracy theories made by people who don't have a clue about engineering or demolition? I guess the grainy footage and spooky music has the government shaking in their boots. thats a silly question, by shutting down every little website would give them credibilty.. and if you watch the video I posted its certainly NOT just people with no engineering or demo experience that are saying this.. besides.. its doesnt take a professor of engineering to say that the pancake effect wouldnt be at freefall speed.. as the video I posted stated by a so called expert (rough quote) the pancake effect states that the weight of the floor above would collapse the floor under 1 by 1 would take at least 40 seconds to bring the building down.. considering that each floor would take half a second to give in. other experts argue the floors would take over a second each to collapse. watch the movie your self then discredit the guys talking.. Im sure there is plenty of material that shows they have a reason to WANT america to be run my monsters.
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Lorelei Patel
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09-01-2006 12:11
From: Cannae Brentano Can somebody answer this question?
If there was a conspiracy, and the folks behind it were able to secretly plant explosives in three major buildings in NY, had the ability to remotely fly two planes into the world trade center, kill 3000 plus US civilians, send thousands of troops overseas into two countries, why they can't shut down silly little websites on 911 conspiracy theories made by people who don't have a clue about engineering or demolition? I guess the grainy footage and spooky music has the government shaking in their boots. Yeah, and they would have gotten away with it, had it not been for those meddling kids.
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Lorelei Patel
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09-01-2006 12:14
From: Richie Waves thats a silly question, by shutting down every little website would give them credibilty. Richie Waves, proving time and again that a person will only believe what he wants to.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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09-01-2006 12:15
From: Richie Waves thats a silly question, by shutting down every little website would give them credibilty.. and if you watch the video I posted its certainly NOT just people with no engineering or demo experience that are saying this..
besides.. its doesnt take a professor of engineering to say that the pancake effect wouldnt be at freefall speed.. as the video I posted stated by a so called expert (rough quote) the pancake effect states that the weight of the floor above would collapse the floor under 1 by 1 would take at least 40 seconds to bring the building down.. considering that each floor would take half a second to give in. other experts argue the floors would take over a second each to collapse. watch the movie your self then discredit the guys talking.. Im sure there is plenty of material that shows they have a reason to WANT america to be run my monsters. well your math is off as an object falls it accelerates, I think it gains 9.8 m/s, so as it got faster and the floors stacked up since the material on each floor would add to the initial weight of the first floor, the lower in the building the collapsing floors got the faster it would fall and destroy the floors under them. I call it the "Snowball Principle"
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Cannae Brentano
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09-01-2006 12:17
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Richie Waves
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09-01-2006 12:17
From: Lorelei Patel Richie Waves, proving time and again that a person will only believe what he wants to. as long as the mainstream media stays in line with the official story, the government need not worry about these little sites.. what would be the point in shutting them down? Im sure if concrete and damming evidence like video footage or something showed up it would be shut in a heartbeat.
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Richie Waves
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09-01-2006 12:21
From: Billybob Goodliffe well your math is off
as an object falls it accelerates, I think it gains 9.8 m/s, so as it got faster and the floors stacked up since the material on each floor would add to the initial weight of the first floor, the lower in the building the collapsing floors got the faster it would fall and destroy the floors under them. I call it the "Snowball Principle" are you good at math billybob? Id like if someone tried to do this sum themselves on the forum and see what they get.
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Juro Kothari
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09-01-2006 12:22
It wouldn't be the first time that a conspiracy theory proved to be true. And not the first time it had helped gain support for war.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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09-01-2006 12:24
From: Richie Waves are you good at math billybob? Id like if someone tried to do this sum themselves on the forum and see what they get. am I good at math? hell no and besides I don't know all the values, however you can't deny the laws of physics because you think its a conspiracy.
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If life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade and try and find someone who's life has given them vodka and have a party! From: Corvus Drake I asked God directly, and he says you're a douchebag. Commander of the Militant Wing of the Salvation Army http://e-pec.info/forum/blog/billybob_goodliffe
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Faarin Blankes
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09-01-2006 12:25
From: Cannae Brentano Oh come on. We all know that Bush has an IQ of 90. It says so on the internet. I'm sure he is more than capable of putting together 9/11. He had 8 months after all. hehe that's true... but all I'm saying is that if anyone in the government put 9/11 together, I doubt it was him. He's good at smiling and doing what he's told, and that's about it. damn, I'm starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist now  |
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Zuzu Fassbinder
Little Miss No Tomorrow
Join date: 17 Sep 2004
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09-01-2006 12:34
I had no idea that conspiracy theorists could be so much fun. They're almost as good as ufologist, ghost hunters and parapsycologists.
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Cannae Brentano
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09-01-2006 12:40
From: Kendra Bancroft Before 9-11, no steel beamed skyscraper had ever collapsed from a fire.
On 9-11 3 of them did. One without even being hit by an airplane.
I'd like a satisfactory explanation. But I guess I won't hold my breath. MIT researchers - “...contains eight articles that deal with the September 11, 2001 World Trade Center (WTC) disaster and its consequences, written by researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology” http://www.caddigest.com/subjects/wtc/Cad Digest - “Gathered here is a collection of articles about the architectural, engineering and related technical aspects of the terrorist attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001 and the ensuing recovery” http://www.hera.org.nz/PDF%20Files/Elaboration%20on%20WTC%20Paper.PDFG Charles Clifton, HERA Structural Engineer - “Elaboration on Aspects of the Postulated Collapse of the World Trade Centre Twin Towers” http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/wtc.shtmlTim Wilkinson, lecturer in Civil Engineering - “World Trade Center - Some Engineering Aspects of the WTC” (and a brief controlled demolition rebuttal) http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/index.htmlDr Thomas Eager - “The Collapse: An Engineer's Perspective” http://www.civil.northwestern.edu/people/bazant/PDFs/Papers/405.pdfBazant - Zhou - “Why did the World Trade Center Collapse? Simple analysis” http://downloads.pennnet.com/fe/wtc.pdfArthur Scheurman - “The Towers, Fire-Induced Collapse and the Building Codes”. A retired FDNY Battalion Chief offers his thoughts in a 2003 document first made available via Fire Engineering http://fe.pennnet.com/articles/article_display.cfm?Section=ARCHI&C=FYI&ARTICLE_ID=184582http://www.implosionworld.com/WTC%20COLLAPSE%20STUDY%20BBlanchard%208-8-06.pdfImplosionWorld - “A Critical Analysis of the Collapse of WTC Towers 1, 2 and 7 from an Explosives and Conventional Demolition Industry Viewpoint” http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htmNIST FAQ - An August 2006 page addresses 14 claims, some common and important, some not. |
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Cannae Brentano
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09-01-2006 12:44
From: Richie Waves ... besides.. its doesnt take a professor of engineering to say that the pancake effect wouldnt be at freefall speed.. as the video I posted stated by a so called expert (rough quote) the pancake effect states that the weight of the floor above would collapse the floor under 1 by 1 would take at least 40 seconds to bring the building down.. considering that each floor would take half a second to give in. other experts argue the floors would take over a second each to collapse. watch the movie your self then discredit the guys talking.. Im sure there is plenty of material that shows they have a reason to WANT america to be run my monsters. |
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Billybob Goodliffe
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09-01-2006 12:50
From: Cannae Brentano http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htmNIST’s findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC towers (the composite floor system—that connected the core columns and the perimeter columns—consisted of a grid of steel “trusses” integrated with a concrete slab; see diagram below). Instead, the NIST investigation showed conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking phenomenon. From: Billybob Goodliffe HOW DARE YOU FIGHT IGNORANCE WITH LOGIC AND REASONING!! YOUR FIGHTING DIRTY! (too lazy to retype it)
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Kendra Bancroft
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09-01-2006 12:53
From: Cannae Brentano http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/MIT researchers - “...contains eight articles that deal with the September 11, 2001 World Trade Center (WTC) disaster and its consequences, written by researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology” http://www.caddigest.com/subjects/wtc/Cad Digest - “Gathered here is a collection of articles about the architectural, engineering and related technical aspects of the terrorist attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001 and the ensuing recovery” http://www.hera.org.nz/PDF%20Files/Elaboration%20on%20WTC%20Paper.PDFG Charles Clifton, HERA Structural Engineer - “Elaboration on Aspects of the Postulated Collapse of the World Trade Centre Twin Towers” http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/wtc.shtmlTim Wilkinson, lecturer in Civil Engineering - “World Trade Center - Some Engineering Aspects of the WTC” (and a brief controlled demolition rebuttal) http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/index.htmlDr Thomas Eager - “The Collapse: An Engineer's Perspective” http://www.civil.northwestern.edu/people/bazant/PDFs/Papers/405.pdfBazant - Zhou - “Why did the World Trade Center Collapse? Simple analysis” http://downloads.pennnet.com/fe/wtc.pdfArthur Scheurman - “The Towers, Fire-Induced Collapse and the Building Codes”. A retired FDNY Battalion Chief offers his thoughts in a 2003 document first made available via Fire Engineering http://fe.pennnet.com/articles/article_display.cfm?Section=ARCHI&C=FYI&ARTICLE_ID=184582http://www.implosionworld.com/WTC%20COLLAPSE%20STUDY%20BBlanchard%208-8-06.pdfImplosionWorld - “A Critical Analysis of the Collapse of WTC Towers 1, 2 and 7 from an Explosives and Conventional Demolition Industry Viewpoint” http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htmNIST FAQ - An August 2006 page addresses 14 claims, some common and important, some not. and not one explains why the core failed. Sorry. |
