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Kendra Bancroft
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09-01-2006 10:49
From: Billybob Goodliffe and the Superdome was designed to withstand 220 mph winds and we saw how good that was. The Big Dig was designed to be watertight, but that didn't work to well for them. Just because something is designed to withstand something doesn't mean it will. Before 9-11, no steel beamed skyscraper had ever collapsed from a fire. On 9-11 3 of them did. One without even being hit by an airplane. I'd like a satisfactory explanation. But I guess I won't hold my breath.
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Kendra Bancroft
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09-01-2006 10:51
From: Lorelei Patel Yeah, I got as far as "were explosives used," answered it with "yup, and they were powered by jet fuel," clicked the X at the upper right and saved myself 56 minutes of my life. 
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Richie Waves
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09-01-2006 10:52
From: Lorelei Patel Yeah, I got as far as "were explosives used," answered it with "yup, and they were powered by jet fuel," clicked the X at the upper right and saved myself 56 minutes of my life. yes, jet fuel brought 3 buildings down at freefall speed.. all in the one area on the one day..
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Lorelei Patel
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09-01-2006 10:54
From: Kendra Bancroft Before 9-11, no steel beamed skyscraper had ever collapsed from a fire. On 9-11 3 of them did. One without even being hit by an airplane.
I'd like a satisfactory explanation. But I guess I won't hold my breath. Amazing things can happen when whole chunks of skyscraper fall on your roof.
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Kendra Bancroft
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09-01-2006 10:55
From: Lorelei Patel Amazing things can happen when whole chunks of skyscraper fall on your roof. yes --apparently so amazing that 7 hours later a building just pancakes at freefall speed!
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Lorelei Patel
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09-01-2006 10:56
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Lorelei Patel
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09-01-2006 10:56
From: Kendra Bancroft yes --apparently so amazing that 7 hours later a building just pancakes at freefall speed! Good, so we're agreed.
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Richie Waves
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09-01-2006 10:58
From: Larry Silverstein "I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse." can you real Lorelei, they admit that WTC 7 was taken down with controlled demo.... how in the world they do that in 6 hours huh?
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Billybob Goodliffe
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09-01-2006 10:58
From: Kendra Bancroft Before 9-11, no steel beamed skyscraper had ever collapsed from a fire. On 9-11 3 of them did. One without even being hit by an airplane.
I'd like a satisfactory explanation. But I guess I won't hold my breath. before Katrina, no giant dome had been been damamged by hurricaines now you do realize that 800 degrees is enough to weaken steel right? you don't have to melt it to make it flexible, look at ancient blacksmiths. just saying there are holes in all theories and asking questions only creates more questions
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Billybob Goodliffe
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09-01-2006 10:59
it takes longer than 7 hours to rig up explosives that would collapse it like it was
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If life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade and try and find someone who's life has given them vodka and have a party! From: Corvus Drake I asked God directly, and he says you're a douchebag.  Commander of the Militant Wing of the Salvation Army http://e-pec.info/forum/blog/billybob_goodliffe
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Kendra Bancroft
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09-01-2006 11:00
so what? It's not like the "Pull it" quote is the only evidence of controlled demolition. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html
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Richie Waves
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09-01-2006 11:03
From: Billybob Goodliffe it takes longer than 7 hours to rig up explosives that would collapse it like it was actually to rig up explosives you could do it in 30 minutes.. but to do it with the persision needed to bring down a 47 story skyscraper would take months of planning using 3d model simulators not to mention the intallation of said explosives, and why wasnt it mentioned in the commissions findings? raises a few to many questions dont you think?
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Lorelei Patel
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09-01-2006 11:03
From: Richie Waves can you real Lorelei, they admit that WTC 7 was taken down with controlled demo.... how in the world they do that in 6 hours huh? Who admitted what? How do you know that "pull it" is industry lingo for controlled demolition? Because you read it on some wacko's website?
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Billybob Goodliffe
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09-01-2006 11:05
From: Richie Waves actually to rig up explosives you could do it in 30 minutes.. but to do it with the persision needed to bring down a 47 story skyscraper would take months of planning using 3d model simulators not to mention the intallation of said explosives, and why wasnt it mentioned in the commissions findings? raises a few to many questions dont you think? theres alot more to demo work than just rigging explosives, you could probably rig up one column in 30 minutes, maybe
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Richie Waves
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09-01-2006 11:05
From: Lorelei Patel Who admitted what? How do you know that "pull it" is industry lingo for controlled demolition? Because you read it on some wacko's website? then WHAT does pull it mean???????
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Lorelei Patel
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09-01-2006 11:06
From: Richie Waves but the do it with the pesision needed to bring down a 47 story skyscraper would take months of planning using 3d model simulators not to mention the intallation of said explosives, and why wasnt it mentioned in the commissions findings? raises a few to many questions dont you think? Exactly. Which is why your little theory is preposterous. They would have had to arrange for the installation of those explosives in the days and weeks leading up to 9-11, and no one would have noticed. Uh huh. The only question it raises is how you could fall for such crap.
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Lorelei Patel
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09-01-2006 11:06
From: Richie Waves then WHAT does pull it mean??????? Did you read the site I posted?
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Richie Waves
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09-01-2006 11:09
From: Lorelei Patel Did you read the site I posted? did you watch the video I posted? ....
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Alastair Chamerberlin
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09-01-2006 11:15
""THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes. Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis – and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA."" http://www.sundayherald.com/37707
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Lorelei Patel
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09-01-2006 11:18
From: Richie Waves did you watch the video I posted? .... Nope. Even if I wanted to, I couldn't now. At work. Not only would the boss be annoyed, but we don't even have sound cards. Not that I feel I'm missing anything. But if you want to get into more about what "pull it" means, go to that site. He did searches on that term and didn't come up with much relating to controlled demolition. Or better yet, do your own search for the term.
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Lorelei Patel
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09-01-2006 11:19
From: Alastair Chamerberlin ""THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes. Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis – and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA."" http://www.sundayherald.com/37707Yeah, and I hear 5,000 Jews didn't show up for work that day at the WTC either. You (something I said rashly that I shouldn't, however, let it be known I have no patience with anti-Jewish bigots). At any rate. The stuff I was waiting on at work came through, so I'm going to go do something worthwhile now. And after that, I'll do something more productive than debating with paranoid peeps, like, say, bronzing my poop.
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Roxie Marten
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09-01-2006 11:25
From: Lorelei Patel Yeah, I got as far as "were explosives used," answered it with "yup, and they were powered by jet fuel," clicked the X at the upper right and saved myself 56 minutes of my life. That's my favorite part of the story. Just for grins I looked up the company who blew up the JL Hudson Department store in Detroit. The building was 439 feet tall. Compared to the World Trand Center which was 1,368 feet (Tower One), 1,362 feet (Tower Two) This is from the web site of the company. CDI’s 12 person loading crew took twenty four days to place 4,118 separate charges in 1,100 locations on columns on nine levels of the complex. Over 36,000 ft of detonating cord and 4,512 non-electric delay elements were installed in CDI’s implosion initiation system, some to create the 36 primary implosion sequence and another 216 micro-delays to keep down the detonation overpressure from the 2,728 lb of explosives which would be detonated during the demolition. CDI web site. A good read if anyone really thinks The WTC was blown up. http://www.controlled-demolition.com/default.asp?reqMode=1&reqLocId=7&reqItemId=20030225133807If they needed that much material and time for that builidng. How much more would they need for something greatly larger? Just how do you get that much explosives and rig timers in one of busiest buildings in the world not being seen while doing it? Oh pardon me while I run this 50 miles of detonation cord and never mind all those boxes marked "High Explosives" Yeah right or mabye the wackos will start saying it was beamed in by the mother ship  Rox
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Roxie Marten
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09-01-2006 11:27
From: Alastair Chamerberlin ""THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes. Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis – and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA."" http://www.sundayherald.com/37707Slips Alastair a bottle of "smart pills"
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Cannae Brentano
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09-01-2006 11:52
Can somebody answer this question?
If there was a conspiracy, and the folks behind it were able to secretly plant explosives in three major buildings in NY, had the ability to remotely fly two planes into the world trade center, kill 3000 plus US civilians, send thousands of troops overseas into two countries, why they can't shut down silly little websites on 911 conspiracy theories made by people who don't have a clue about engineering or demolition? I guess the grainy footage and spooky music has the government shaking in their boots.
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Roxie Marten
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09-01-2006 11:53
From: Kendra Bancroft You have no clue what I believe. Nor do I think you are emotionally ready to accept the truth. You can't handle the truth. *I have always wanted to say that*  What truth is that dear? Half baked theories from people who have never spent 5 minutes with Flight Simulator? Let alone any time in the left hand seat of a airplane. People who have never spent any time getting thier hands dirty to see how metal reacts under heat and stress? Who would rather sit infront a computer and take everything that is spoon fed to them from any nut job with a video or book to sell. Turn off the X Files and go out in the real world and do some research. There is really is no cigarette smoking man pulling the strings. Take a intro flight lesson at the airport. With in 10 minutes you will be flying the airplane and say "Yes flying is really easier than driving a car" Go to http://www.abana.org/affiliates/affiliate_list.shtml This is the North American Artisan Blacksmiths Assocation. They are great people and would be happy to show you what happens when you heat metal. The list will give you names in your area to call. I am sorry if I am being harsh but thease stupid stories do nothing to honor those who have died or get to the root of how this could of been prevented. Rox PPSEL ABANA Member since 1989
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