Religeous Two Week Fire Gap

That post would is belittling people of faith. Has anyone of faith suggest you are mentally ill because you believe there is no creator to the creation?

It would be ideal if we could discuss issues rather than calling people names and questioning their sanity.

I don't really care what word you want to use, Chip. It honestly doesn't matter.

Just be prepared to always have to explain yourself further, because even your own definition of the word atheist is not specific.

It's like defining your favorite color as, "Not red."

Actually, I'm the child of Mr. & Mrs. Bancroft and I don't have any brothers named Kevn.

No, it's exactly like someone calling themselves a Christian and not specifying what denomination. They consider the Christian bit to be the most important. I do not believe in a god or gods. That makes me an atheist. If someone wants to know more, then I'll explain what agnostic atheism is.

Oh yes, the hug. By all means. A million hugs, except I'd get tired. And I'll whisper in his ear that he and I are closer and more connected and more intimate than almost any of us can imagine. And that I wouldn't have him one jot different from how he is, cos I really wouldn't. Now thats enough. Stop trying to make me cry, like Coco did. I, like you, am the living paradox. Who KNOWS what I'll feel next

Ok how bout this topic: "Since Bananas now are wearing pajamas, do you think that someday they will be able to pilot a tugbuts?"

Well, Hawking already proved that information is actually not lost when things fall into black holes.

But if that's what Kevin was talking about, I didn't see it.




This, again, just pushes the question further though. Now you're left with a question like "Where did God's universe come from?" or, whatever universe our universe is in.(If you don't want to call it God's)

A fairly simplistic way to look at this, that doesn't even need to deal with the core problems of causality, would be to apply Goedel's theorem.

Funny - in all my years of telling people I'm an athiest, not a single one has asked for further clarification.

Yes... Saying you are a christian is not specific, although it is significantly MORE specific than saying "I am NOT a muslim".

As long as you realize the lack of precision in your wording, and are prepared to explain it... over and over again, most likely, that's fine.

Just don't get uppity when people are confused as to what you believe in.

I'm probably not going to bother posting about this any more.. it's a totally pointless discussion. I'd like to talk about the actual religious and logical aspects of God, rather than trivial semantics.

I suspect that many of them assumed that you believed that there was no god.

Actually - people of faith often tell me i'm going to a burning pit of fire for eternity, which is a bit belittling.

there isn't an issue to discuss, is my point - To me, people of faith are living in a delusional state, and to people of faith, my lack of faith is at the very least, sad and strange.

What's going to get resolved by any discussion beyond that?

Betcha they asked for your phone number tho' :::::wiggle eyebrows:::::

Unacceptable? Why? Bible thumpers are usually the first to call for the burning of boks they don't like.

Only after I showed a little leg and the rate chart.

Likewise.
And yet if I'm more specific and say Secular Humanist, they blink blankly and drool a little.

ROFL.

There is no lack of precision in my language. I do not believe in a god or gods. That is atheism. People who use the term "agnostic" as a replacement for the more honest and accurate "atheist" are the ones playing games with imprecise language. I call a spade a spade.

Taco,

No one in this thread has called you names or questioned your sanity. I question the logic by which people come to the conclusion there is no God. But that's not a personal attack.

Chip,

I thought you were going to further define yourself as a weak atheist as opposed to a strong atheist.

Kevn,

I can't see where I called you, or any other person of faith, a name. My opinion that people of faith are delusional and mentally ill was not meant as a personal attack at all, that is simply my view people of faith in general.

I don't think less of people of faith than I do about any other animals on earth. I'm very sorry if my opinions are upsetting to you.

You understand that defining what you DON'T believe in is inherently less precise than defining what you DO believe in, right?

Unless, of course, you go through an exhaustive listing of everything you don't believe in.

I am a weak atheist. What's your point?

I DO believe there is no god.

I take no offense. But you must understand, a global attack on people of faith is indeed a personal attack on all people of faith.

Imagine Christians on this forum calling all theists mentally ill and insane. It's a personal attack in a global way.

It's important we behave in a way that allows everyone to explore their opinion. No one should be intimidated when posting.

So then you have a different belief than Chip, who also describes himself as an Atheist.