All your womb are belong to us

well speaking of someone who was raped by their uncle at the age 17, i'm still strongly agains't abortion and don't tolerate any excuse for murdering a child. from the minute another life is concieved, if you abort it you are murdering another life. you don't want the kid, there's adoption for those many parents who cannot be fortunate enough to concieve their own or simply want to expand their family or start their own family by taking in the children that parents seem to reject for their own selfish reasons.
anyone who thinks of abortion should never have a second chance at motherhood again.
now hows that for ya sally? i'm woman, i was raped whats your point? you still want to justify murder? THERE IS NO REASON FOR ABORTION....EVER!

Let's set the record straight. I'm not comparing a woman who aborts her baby-yes baby-to a group of cells. I'm comparing her to any other murderer. I think murder should be no safer for her or her accomplice (read: abortion "doctor" than it is for any other murderer.

And you should think about what you said about the kittens. Fact is, if an animal in on the endagered species list, it likely does have more rights than an unborn child.

The fact that you can't see how reprehensible this state of affairs is, is precisely the reason we need laws like this.

Wrong.

Next time try don't using absolutes if you want to get people to listen to your position.

The point is, if you'd wanted to have an abortion, you had the choice. I'm very sorry for what happened to you.

And are you trying to say that there is no reason for abortion even when the mother's life is in danger? Even the Catholic church allows for abortion under those circumstances. I've been a registered nurse for a long time, working in neonatal intensive care and obstetrics. I've seen women die from complications of pregnancy. It's not pretty.

Kinga- you apparently haven't read all my other posts. I have never said I want anybody to have an abortion. I want women to have that option, if they so choose. To quote Zuzu, abortion should be legal, safe, and rare.

Before I forget and go to bed...

Kevn-
Those children in foster care were babies at one time that no one wanted to adopt. There are babies born to crack whores that no one wants now. Don't say that there are no babies to adopt when you mean that there are no DESIRABLE,PERFECT,NO PROBLEM HAVING babies that you want.

Why don't you be a man and help those children that ARE here and that do need someone to show them that the world isn't all horrible and that they are capable of being loved? Too many kids are left in the system because of people like you, people that don't want a "damaged child." I think God would like to see those children taken care of before anyone else.

I know you can find a bunch of verses in the bible that back me up. Especially the one where Jesus says to hang a stone around your neck and throw yourself into the sea before you harm a child.

By ignoring those children in foster care that so desperately need someone to love them, you are basically telling God you don't care. That you would rather "save the sinners and the world" on your terms and not his.

I plan on being a foster parent for troubled children when mine are old enough to understand what it would mean, and to understand that there are other kids that are not lucky enough to know what it is like to have a parent love you for no other reason than just being there.

It's just sad that you miss the whole point.

which is why i don't follow catholicism. doctors are not God, nor can they say if a woman will die for having a baby. call me cold but if someone is gonna be selfish enough to murder another innocent life that did not ask to be here then they deserve to die.

i have read your posts and i think your sick to think it's ok for any reason to abort a child.
what part of that don't you understand, thinking it's ok for any reason makes you a murderer yourself.

Creami, there are no unwanted babies in adoption lines. Find me one right now and I'll adopt. Crack babies, any kind you want. I'm telling you right now all babies put on the adoption list are adopted regardless of condition.

The babies who don't get adopted are not up for adoption during the time they are a baby.

Please don't bring into the debate adoption of older kids or taking care of the elderly. That are not at issue when discussing the adoption of babies as a way to avoid killing the baby before birth.

which is why i don't follow catholicism. doctors are not God, nor can they say if a woman will die for having a baby. call me cold but if someone is gonna be selfish enough to murder another innocent life that did not ask to be here then they deserve to die.

That's simply not true, hon.

It's a strawman arguement (logical fallacy) to bring in the issue of older unadopted kids.

If she wants to prove there are actually babies on the adoption list who are not being adopted, she should show it. Otherwise, I'll accept her opinion as an opinion I know to be false.

"One question to ask is whether there would be enough adoptive families available to care for unwanted children if adoption were to replace abortion as the option of choice. Data on adoptions is pretty sketchy, but the National Adoption Information Clearinghouse (associated with the U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services) reports that in the 1990s there was an average of 120,000 adoptions a year (click here for their website)—barely over 10% of the number of abortions per year. Of these adoptions, moreover, over 40% are “kinship adoptions” involving stepparents and other relatives, e.g. grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. (In 1992, for instance, the figure for kinship adoptions was 42%; I don’t know of any reason to suppose other years were different.) This means that in the 1990s there were just 72,000 adoptions per year of non-kin babies."




http://www.ithaca.edu/faculty/cduncan/230/adoption.htm

there are no unwanted babies in adoption lines. Find me one right now and I'll adopt. Crack babies, any kind you want. I'm telling you right now all babies put on the adoption list are adopted regardless of condition.

I don't know which is scarier, that you believe that shite or that you might be allowed to have pseudo-parental influence on a child.

Oh, and the moon is made of cheese, Santa Claus loves you, and black is white. Der.

I have now declared this the "pull any bullshit anti-fact out of your ass and post it" thread.

Be back later

which is why i don't follow catholicism. doctors are not God, nor can they say if a woman will die for having a baby. call me cold but if someone is gonna be selfish enough to murder another innocent life that did not ask to be here then they deserve to die.

which is why i don't follow catholicism. doctors are not God, nor can they say if a woman will die for having a baby.

More bullshit from out of my ass....

Now show the list of unadoped babies who are not being adopted.

No one is stopping you, prove me wrong by posting the link to where people can adopt babies without a 2 year wait.

It's not that hard to adopt - given time and money. But if you want a white baby, your chances are pretty low.

And that would be kevn's problem. he just can't find ONE SINGLE baby he can adopt. (I personally think the agencies have him blacklisted and he just has no clue)