All your womb are belong to us

I loved killing bad people. Argue with me you putz.

I know they cheer, but that is the minority of the group. And some pro-lifers kill doctors to save babies, it's true, but it's the fringe of the group. I don't suggest you kill babies, and I assume you don't think I hate born children to the point I don't support them.

Under certain circumstances, I support abortion well into the three hundredth trimester.

I said "choose". I support the right of a doctor to kill the child to save the mother. The mother has no choice, the doctor must do all to save her.

I'm stereotyping no one, just saying what I am observing. I observe you saying pro-choice = pro-abortion. And pro-abortion = happy baby killers (ok, not really, but if you can be obtuse so can I)

I also did not say there should be a major hand-out to poor people. I do, however, advocate that the people who need education, health insurance, food and cannot afford it should get it. That really isn't "charity." A lot of people who give to charities only give to certain ones - and many of them make damn sure they aren't giving money to Planned Parenthood, even though PP offers education, exams, birth control, counseling and other services besides abortion.

"With conservatives, you support what you want MORE of. Do we want more poverty?"
I guess that means they want more war... The US government is increasing our spending while making major tax cuts. How in the world does that make sense?

The hair, as I said about the toenail, is part of the woman, it shares her DNA.

The fetus isn't part of her, it is a separate person, with a beating heart by the time it's killed. I don't understand how anyone can say a child, with a heartbeat, isn't human.

But I'll defend to the death your right to believe it and say it.

What's so special about a heartbeat? Is it enough to keep the child alive without the mother? Nope.

And no, the child does NOT have a heartbeat at "five cells", or any such primative stage.

I didn't say I support war. But I know good will come from it in some way. I already see freedom grabbing hold. But I admit I cry to see pictures of dead and dying children, and adults. I hate war personally.

But if you look at history, everyone who lost a war to us ended up rich and powerful. Iraq will surely end up to be the powerhouse of the area.

Republicans generally feel private charity is more efficient, that they can be more cost effective. So naturally the best thing to do is put money into private hands, where it either ends up creating jobs or in the hands of a charity.

They believe doing both at the same time, slowing the growth of entitlements and increasing the amount of tax cuts to spread the money into he economy. They feel it's the employers who provide jobs, so much goes to them.

Bill Clinton held this same philosophy, so I would say it's a continuation of "Clintonomics"

Yeah, yeah, you've certainly demonstrated how you "don't understand" bunches of things. For a guy with such limited understanding, you've sure got a lot of opinions.

As a guy whose favorite rhetorical device is the argument from personal incredulity that leaves you with little basis for useful opinions. Is god giving you merit badges for this posting this crap or sumptin? I hope you ain't getting scored on persuasiveness, if so.

One more thing for you to not understand: a decerebrated post-natal failed construction of a Homo sapiens genotype is not a child, or a person, or human, despite a beating heart, lungs that work, and functioning kidneys. Worse still they are unable to merit eternal salvation as they know not between good and evil. That sucks.

Just like Mexico

You mean like the people populating the americas prior to the European conquest? When I think "rich and powerful" I know I think Cree and Seminole and Mayan.

Der.

Recently. Like Japan and Germany.

Any others? or just them? North Korea? Or did they not lose? What about the invasions of Grenada and Panama?

Which other countries do you cite as examples?

Do you go as far back as WWI? Hmm, that would include the Ottoman empire, though.

I certainly don't expect to persuade you.

Oh, why didn't you say so? You mean like Somalia?

I never said you did support the war - remember, I asked you much earlier if you did. I am not lumping all Republicans into that category, just the ones in Congress. If I look at history I see the US giving some financial aid to the defeated countries and leaving military establishments on their soil (like Germany and Japan).

Easy for you to say since you lack a vagina and womb.

The USA beat Somalia in a war? Hmmm, /me checks history book....


Nope, we didn't fight Somalia.

Most Democrats supported the war, don't blame only Republicans.

Me too. Who won?

No, actually, most of the people in Congress believed there was basis for war. I would not go so far as to say they "supported" the war.

Now, back to the topic of this thread... We know that you fully endorse/support South Dakota's actions - but let's be realistic. There at least needs to be some sort of clause for rape/incest and protection for the mother's life. As much as you wish to believe that most abortions are performed as birth control (for which you have no basis of fact) and that the government and/or doctors should tell women what they can and cannot do - it is really NOT for the government to decide. Nor is it your place to judge them for a very PERSONAL decision or to judge the people who support any woman's right to a choice.

I see that nobody won. Good old Kevin is still plugging on despite all obstacles.

Why should anyone let common sense get in their way?

Thank me Lord Jesus! it's about time it started. i say doctors who go against it should have life in prison. lets see how long it takes for the rest of the world to wake up.
taking lives is a no no and those who take them should be punished

There is an exception for the mother's life.

I judged Susan Smith for her personal choice to kill her children. Killing people is a very personal decision, but I think it should be illegal to kill innocent people.

btw, here are the reasons women seek abortions, proof most use it as birth control...

"The most common reasons women consider abortion are:

Birth control (contraceptive) failure. Over half of all women who have an abortion used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant.9
Inability to support or care for a child.
To end an unwanted pregnancy.
To prevent the birth of a child with birth defects or severe medical problems. Such defects are often unknown until routine second-trimester tests are done.
Pregnancy resulting from rape or incest. Every year, about 13,000 women choose abortion after suffering rape or incest.9
Physical or mental conditions that endanger the woman's health if the pregnancy is continued. "

http://www.webmd.com/hw/womens_conditions/tw1169.asp