Free accounts will make more furries =/

Well I'll have to adopt that style of thinking for SecondLife, but if I ever see someone striding around in real life with a fake attachable penis strapped around their waist I'm calling the cops ^^;;

I would surmise there are about as many furries on SL as there are going to be regardless of the free status. The vast majority of the so called 300lbs basement dwelling, skunk gagging furries aren't going to have a computer remotely fast enough to run SL so they are not a factor. Besides, they are likely using an Amiga or something to maintain the purity of the net or some other utter nonsense and not interested in SL.

On the other hand, the hard working guys who like to spend their spare time and their cash playing an online game and want to be a 6 foot tall anthropomorphic bunny can now do so for free. Free means no commitment, no money spent so they can look around without a time limit or pressure to commit to anything. Once they decide they want that avatar, that attachable penis and that house firing gun they are going to want $L money to spend. Instead of whining about furries, I'd be making bunny avatars, attachable penises and house guns to sell.

I did *laughs maniacally* and made a fortune in the dog dick trade! And skins and accessories..

I love furries. They taste good.

Yup, she sure does. I love it when she squirms a lot and she grabs my hair... oh, wait are we talking about the same thing here?

hear no evil, speak no evil, feel up no evil.

Please All Furries To Own Grid

Maximus, of the two posts of yours that I have read, both of them have a shallow one line sentence. Could you attempt to contribute something useful, or provide a foundation for your idea?

I personally find it harder to connect on an emotional level to a furry. They have a level of cartoony abstraction that doesn't trigger friendship with me.

People are human. There is no reincarnation. No one has the sould of a wolf. Furries are weird. They should be spayed, neutered, and euthanized.
Ignore the previous line.

And about the attachable penii... I'd prefer if I never saw them. It's annoying to see someone walking around with one attached in a sandbox, and even worse when the particle effects are on.

All goths to own grid!!
All vampires to own grid!
All robots to own grid!
All elves to own gid
All aliens to own grid!
All wierd, fantastical creatures to own grid!
All gays to own grid!
All blacks to own grid!
All hispanics to own grid!
All techies to own grid!
All women to own grid!
All men to own grid!
All non-Americans to own grid!
All Texans to own grid!
All non white, anglo-saxon American prodistants to own grid!
All people who wear blue shirts to own grid!
All FIC to own grid!

And on and on, where exactly do you stop?

Why not put it up to vote, Maximus?

Second: So you're saying I should have my land taken away from me, is that correct?

When there's eight guys in Ahern spouting off self-masturbatory unfunny two year old memes about being protected and having stairs in their house. Then, and only then, will SL be a platonic ideal.

Deleted my post. It was stupid I agree. We all have moments of stupidity, specially me. And no I do not want anyone to lose thier land....


Very sorry.

That's more an artifact of the Luskwood-style furry avatar prevalent in Second Life (and the overall cartoony style in common use outside of SL) than the concept of an anthromorphic character, I think.

I personally find Jakkal Dingo's avs to be excellent "realistic" anthros, and use her hyena as part of a "gnoll ranger" avatar. (Hey, what can I say, old time RPGer.)

I should add that I also have quite a few of the more "cartoony" furry av style, tho mostly ones by Ryntha Suavage and Cheetah Kitty, so I personally have nothing against it - I'm simply pleased Jakkal provides an alternative look for them that like it.

(In any case, while around 80% of the time I'm in normal Aliasi-mode, I'm liable to be ANYTHING in the other 20%. My only hole in the collection so far is a giant humanish avatar that isn't a mech or monster; I'm waiting for 1.7 to properly fool around with a giant animated statue avatar.

Yet a 7 foot robot does? The newbie Ken and Barbie type avatars somehow project humanity better? Look at your avatar, trust me its a cartoony abstraction too. Saying you can't be friends with someone who looks like an anthropomorphic bunny is sooo unbelievably shallow. What are you going to do when your best friend shows you the tiger avatar they bought? What happens if your S.O. decides to spice up their love life with one of my skins? Considering how many have them (yes, even a Linden or two) it is a distinct possibility. Its gonna suck to be you...



Then again not all furries proscribe to that sort of thing. I certainly don't nor do a lot of of the ones I call friends. In fact a huge and contentious division occured in the fandom over this very issue a few years ago. What you describe is a faction of the fandom called "lifestylers". Not all furries are lifestylers just as not all christians are fundimentalist evangelical whackos. You need to talk to more furries outside of the Furnation and The Forest furry sims.





And a lot of furries don't like it either, me for one. I don't spend a lot of time on the furry sims for that reason (and others). Then again I see far more human newbies doing that then furries in most places.

OMG down with Luskwood! Rage against the machine! So cartoony you can even hear calliope music playing!

Michi, you didn't tell me you were going on a safari. o_o Great photo.

they send my guy hate tells on the server. i will pk them. i am lvl 60.

OMG heal pls?!?! How you mine for FISH?!

I spend my Second Life going around as a white dog with a red collar.

Am I a furry? I guess that depends on who you ask. I prefer to think of myself as half-human, half-furry (what else would explain a talking dog?)

If anything my AV is a conversation starter - and I've never once saw it as a hinderance to making friends. In fact, its made it that much easier

actually we have lot of respect for jakkal, and would like to see more new designers, trying out more individualized styles... thats what we started out doing 2 years ago, and its a shame there havent been more people really trying out their own individual looks.

There is always room, and desire for something new and interesting, which is why stylistically we at luskwood are always growing, always trying a little something new or different.. its a shame not everyone does that, or avatar wise, SL would honestly be more interesting than it has been, for a new customer 'browsing'

there are some newer people though, who really are beginning to express some great new ideas in avs , tho they have stylistically, already been targeted by some'f the other av makers, and discouraged, which really sucks

Yes, but we're talking about emotional connections here. I guarantee you that when one of the ladies in your bingo group gets stood up by that hot hunk of man who looks like Tom Selleck, it's not going to be *YOU* she cries on the phone to at 11 at night in her curlers and bathrobe.

The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. And I really like pudding.

Yup. There seems to be a "There can be only one!" attitude coming up in the av maker community. Fact is - related to the original topic of this thread - the market is expanding. And art has never really been an 'either or' sort of thing for most people.

So I think the "XYZ sucks, buy your av from ZYX!" crap going about is a bit misguided. People will buy, aesthetically, what they like. No amount of sales pitch will cause a person to buy their "tiger av from person A vs person B" if they simply don't like the design.

Furthermore, taste varies so widely that you can't even gauge who is better than who. When people buy painting, prints, sculptures -- I'm not so sure they go by marketing campaigns. I think it goes by what pleases their eyes, and honestly, a lot of the time, they'll own pieces from *several* artists.

Yup, I'm more fond of an AND approach than an OR one. Grow branches from the tree, you can always trim later but don't squash the sapling. Heck, it's like a grand buffet... no one should artificially limit themselves to a single foodschtuff if they want to explore different flavors!

To steal a line from George Carlin:

Actually, the raisins are in the pudding. "The proof of the pudding is in the eating." 'Proof' meaning the test of the pudding.

Furries are great people! Small-minded idiots that attack other people's choice of avatar are not so nice.

-Ghoti (not a furry)

Would that make Bill Cosby a research scientist?



But you are a fish, no?

Maybe I'm missing the point of the discussion - which admittedly, isn't hard for me at times

If we're talking relationships - and I mean the boyfriend/girlfriend kind... ok, I'm with ya there. I'm pretty much celebate in SL, and that move is intentional. My AV does help keep prospective suitors at a much wanted distance. Whether human or furry, both seem to think of me as someone 'not of the same species' .

However, when it comes to close emotional connections with people, I have many in my circle of folks that I'm lucky enough to call friends. That includes the close friends in-game that have called me at home in RL, on the telephone, to bend my ear about their crisis du jour.

All I'm trying to say is - Roleplay aside, one's Avatar is a virtual representation of a *real* individual in real life. Providing you choose to do so, your true personality will shine through whether you're a human, a furry, or a blob of goo. Its how we interact with others that's the real determining factor in whether emotional connections are made.

At least, in my little microcosm of SL, that's how its worked for me