National Guardsman Brutally Attacked In Washington State

funny, you call me a coward? I should show you the bullet wound on my shoulder that I got in Kosovo, or tell you about the nightmares I have from the things I saw in Desert Sabre.

And yet you claim it's all propganda... so Lord Byron said Fools are my theme, let satire be my song.

Stick to what you said, you said you'd beat me up, it's no joke, keep it that way, be a man. I know war makes many men boys.

no I say your sites are propaganda, I have seen similar stories from sources that are actually credible. I have stuck to what I said, you however are the ones editing your posts to change what was said.

How are they propaganda? They are footage from the war in Iraq. How is that propaganda? I don't understand, how is a photo you can see that says "I killed your father and raped your sister" propaganda? Is this a lie? Some poor service man just made that photo to boost his ego?

I only edited two of my posts to correct spelling. Where did you even get this idea? I have been constantly posting here, I do not have time to edit things.

I stood by my comment.

He has backed down and said it's a joke.

This is what's lacking in America and the rest of the world. People who can't stand by their ideals and claims.

Maybe I should ask who is accountable for the crimes that happend in that war? The poor alabama soldider with his grade 5 education who is now sitting in some jail rotting away cause of all the chems he had to breath ? The officer in charge of his platoon? The general who gave the order? The chief of staff who gave him the order? The person above who moves his hands around a lot who gave that order? You tell me. There is no accountablity in this war, this is a crime where murders happen, where torture happens, where rape happens, where children and women are senselessly murdered. Who I ask you is to be blamed? Who should take the fall? And I'm sure it wouldn't matter to you cause it's some person in some 3rd world nation dying, someone less human than an American.

I stood by my comment.

He has backed down and said it's a joke.

This is what's lacking in America and the rest of the world. People who can't stand by their ideals and claims.

funny how I quoted it before the editing as saying this



only editing for spelling eh?

I added to it, cause I saw no reason to post another post to her below one of mine. I generally do not post till someone else posts.

I never do any subtraction from my posts. What you quoted there is still fully there right?

Why do I have to have debates with kids.

You claimed it as a joke, no it's not a joke right? You want to beat me up? You are welcome to do it, but I will not back down from what I see is wrong. I will not censor myself, I wll not forget the things that have happend the 45,000 civilians who have been murdered after this war officially ended.

No everything is just fine.

They are afterall poor people who would have just taken space, who would have just laid claim to our oil well, that we so very much deserve since we were there first to dig them.

No everything just looks ok now, see worse things in the middle-east, oh and look some psycho just addmited he killed a kid 10 years ago and now we know it's not true. Things are looking ok, back to sort of the norm now, like 10 years ago.

But what about the victims? Yes they are poor and they were in the way and we had to murder them, we had to cluster bomb them, we had to use chemical weapons on them, and depleted uranium shelled weapons. God those sods must have died painfully, yeah we pumped a lot of bullets in their bodies, some of our best weapon labs got the most field work out of this, not to mention our primary goal of oil production seems to be working all-ok.

But no everything is just fine, we are all pretend saying nothing is fine, everything is cool, this is a forum so I can post all hardcore and claim my right wing medals cause I've forced myself to forget that a war happend and people were slaughtered. And keep getting murdered, raped.. no no.. that's a lie, this can't happen, everything is just damn fine.

I ask myself that everytime I read your posts.

That was a sad call btw, you really should have read the time stamps if there was subtraction. In this case there is none. I strongly believe in non-subtraction edits. Even if the grammar is wrong, I will not subtract from a post of mine. I will add, I will change spellings. But no subtractions. This is a bad things to do.

Now back to this thing about propganda. Which of the things I linked did you feel was all played out at a hollywood studio? So Falluja didn't happen, Abu Ghraib never existed, what the hell is an Al Ramadi? What of Haditha?

no I say your sites are propaganda, I have seen similar stories from sources that are actually credible. I have stuck to what I said, you however are the ones editing your posts to change what was said.

Wow. SOMEONE needs his medication. Your 'grasp' of the world is 'interesting'. I am not saying that bad things haven't happened, but the way you seem to view them, and the the manner in which your thoughts seem to 'wander' are similar to folks I have roomed with when I spent time in a mental health facility. So I recognize the 'type' in your writings.

Ya know what? screw it. Wingnuts are wingnuts whether they're left-handed or right-handed, and I'm sick of extremists of all stripes, people who use living humans as symbols and politicise them (Billybob's thinking about Sheehan right now and has a point) when they don't even know them (ah, the difference) from Adam - and use it as a divisive tool to bait and flame and divide our country.

Lost, STFU. You're hurting yourself and our country. It's important that individuals be treated with dignity and respect, here AND abroad. No-one is condoning the killing of innocents, abroad OR here, the beating abroad OR here. We live in a country under the Rule of Law, not some whimsical King or fickle imaginary Deity, and it is by the Rule of Law that justice will be seen for those who flaunt it (the ones who actually killed babies) - your gods****** yakking and failure to address your gods****** mistake makes me sick. I'm used to this kind of selfish, idiotic partisan blind politicising from the gods******* rightwing Neoconservatives and right-wing-nuts and PNAC and the idiots in office. I REFUSE to let you represent me and my views, I REFUSE to let you represent America. You FAIL. You're the SAME as them on the OTHER side of the SAME coin.

S.T.F.U.

I <3 YOU!

and its nice to see that you at least understand my views on Sheehan even if you don't agree.

Why do you have to have someone else talk for you? Can't you stand on your own two feet? I responded to you mostly cause you were not outright insulting, I usually ignore posters like that, cause I feel they it's beneath my diginity to respond to them. But in your defense, I should say you have shown much better candor than he or others like him.

Why do you have to have someone else talk for you? Can't you stand on your own two feet? I responded to you mostly cause you were not outright insulting, I usually ignore posters like that, cause I feel they it's beneath my diginity to respond to them. But in your defense, I should say you have shown much better candor than he or others like him.

Being insulting to others is "beneath your dignity"?

Oh my.

I can't decide if "liar" or "hypocrite" is the better word here. Or maybe I should google an image of the pot calling the kettle back.

Oh my, my, my. Decisions, decisions.

Being insulting to others is "beneath your dignity"?

Oh my.

I can't decide if "liar" or "hypocrite" is the better word here. Or maybe I should google an image of the pot calling the kettle back.

Oh my, my, my. Decisions, decisions.

The suspects were driving a black Chevy Suburban-type SUV.

You claimed it as a joke, no it's not a joke right? You want to beat me up? You are welcome to do it, but I will not back down from what I see is wrong. I will not censor myself, I wll not forget the things that have happend the 45,000 civilians who have been murdered after this war officially ended.

No everything is just fine.

They are afterall poor people who would have just taken space, who would have just laid claim to our oil well, that we so very much deserve since we were there first to dig them.

No everything just looks ok now, see worse things in the middle-east, oh and look some psycho just addmited he killed a kid 10 years ago and now we know it's not true. Things are looking ok, back to sort of the norm now, like 10 years ago.

But what about the victims? Yes they are poor and they were in the way and we had to murder them, we had to cluster bomb them, we had to use chemical weapons on them, and depleted uranium shelled weapons. God those sods must have died painfully, yeah we pumped a lot of bullets in their bodies, some of our best weapon labs got the most field work out of this, not to mention our primary goal of oil production seems to be working all-ok.

But no everything is just fine, we are all pretend saying nothing is fine, everything is cool, this is a forum so I can post all hardcore and claim my right wing medals cause I've forced myself to forget that a war happend and people were slaughtered. And keep getting murdered, raped.. no no.. that's a lie, this can't happen, everything is just damn fine.

Maybe I should ask who is accountable for the crimes that happend in that war? The poor alabama soldider with his grade 5 education who is now sitting in some jail rotting away cause of all the chems he had to breath ? The officer in charge of his platoon? The general who gave the order? The chief of staff who gave him the order? The person above who moves his hands around a lot who gave that order? You tell me.