Open letter to the owner of slstats.com

I'm thinking longterm aswell when more people use this system, the contrours of your social network is getting clearer and cleared every day that you run into somone wearing this script. With some crossreferencing from all the ppl who have met you and the ppl present at those occations one can simply ceck names that appears more ofthen and make a map of who you hang out with.

What this information gives the possibilities to do I don't know and I don't care. What I do care about is that it is being registerd and published on the web.

And the publishing of the profile on the web, doesn't happend unless you check the box in your profile that says "Publish on the web".

I'll be sending you a tinfoil hat in-world shortly.

So my social network is getting clearer? I walk by a girl at the mall and it records me, I go to my friend and it records me, I walk through a sim and I get recorded. I've just got 1 stat that's relevant to my "social network" (that I didn't realize was such a cloak and dagger shadowy thing to keep secret) and 2 stats that are irrelevant, to a person who knows nothing about me, they won't be able to distinguish that.

4 big complaints

1. It's Opt-OUT not Opt-IN. Opt-OUT is NEVER repeat NEVER an acceptable privacy policy.

2. It tracks you through watch owners without your consent

3. It has a rating system which the Opt-OUT implies you are aware of and don't contest. I can't wait to see that abused.

4. The owner is insulting to anyone who doesn't like his product.

As far as avi-key's I'm not apathetic. I'm a strong proponent of llName2Key.

http://slstats.com/site/optout/

Here's how to opt-out of the stats for people who think the CIA is after them and is trying to know who their social friends are so they can....wire tap them or something I guess.

slstats.com is GREAT,my full support to the creator.
some people just "bitch bitch" there is nothing wrong on it that could be used for bad,you dont like it,you quit it.

If I didn't make it clear at first, I don't care about the possibilities of it, what I react against is the policy slstats.com has that anyone who has not explicitly said NO with the opt-out box is consenting to being registred and have that information published on the web.

Way to go. You haven't read Mark's responses at all if you think he's that type of person. Quit spewing bile all over his work and his persona.

Also, at least in my case, I wasn't talking about a proposed llName2Key function, I was talking about the w-hat.com database. It's exactly the type of thing you don't like, apparently.

Regardless of how much or how little information it sends to the slstats database, this product is spyware. Spyware gathers information and sends it back to a database. That is what this watch is doing.

I have opted out, and the opt-out box tried to tell me it was dangerous to do so. After clicking on "yes" (I wanted to opt out) a few times, it actually asks "are you lying?" hoping that the frustrated resident will once again click "yes".

Why are you being a jackass to people who enjoy a little more privacy than you do? It's personal preference and opinion, the attitude is totally uncalled for.

musta missed my post so ill repost

http://w-hat.com/name2key

see other places do it to

well you know lets take this into real world terms... grocery store "Advantage" Cards, ya know those cards you swipe to get savings at the register?

THOSE track your buying habits... and companys pay TOP DOLLAR for lists of your shopping habits. They track everything you can imagine, cross reference everything. When you buy bread, they know what peanut butter you like to buy. When you buy salsa, they know what brand of chips your gonna buy.

I'm not trying to start an argument.... but people, this happens DAILY in real life. This is a game, and much less drastic... but to that effect yes people will datamine what they can for the purpose of generating statistics.

I dont see anyone hating on their grocery store card that saves them pennies compared to the cash the grocery store is bringing in selling their shopping data to 3rd parties

and its not llName2Key() unless the AV is online... then its the dataserver, or your stored cache file

I do see what you're saying and there's nothing I can say in return. Personally I know I could care less but I can't speak for others, some might not like the idea of an indistinct, unclear, useless, and otherwise readily available elsewhere set of data being more or less indirectly and vaguely displayed about them.

However, you'll notice that if you click on the name on each post, you can pull up a whole list of data on the poster. Why are you not being outraged by this?

Because it's menial and useless. It's stuff that is meant to be there for pure entertainment purposes. While I see what you mean by information being displayed, I don't see any danger or harm from it, but this is totally personal opinion.

People get outraged by these "privacy violations" when they mean something, not when they're useless.

Hey, if you don't think the CIA is after you to find out your social network and wiretap you or something, you don't HAVE to click the link. Go find it on your own. He never tried to force you to. That link was specifically FOR those who want to opt out and are also incredibly paranoid, obviously not for you.

Jeez.

"privacy"-hate that word

You mean the kind that will not gather any info about people WITHOUT a card, and without their consent?

This is my first post on the forums. I am not in agreemwnt with this and for one I choose not to have my profile published on the web in my profile in SL. Yet someone has decided to do this even though I choose not to.
And why do I have to go to the business and get an Opt-Out. This to me is telling me I have to get his creations, just to opt-out. It should have this built in to begin with and not just publish information. Great if you decide you want the watch, that is your choice, but not all of us has decided to get this watch, but yet we had no choice. No we have to go get one of their creations to Opt-Out.

As you said, it is a game.. Well as I see SL it is somewhere I come to hang out with friends, have fun and interesting discussions etc. not a place where a constant stream of information about me is being gatherd without my consent. It's my opinion and the way I see it. Why isn't that worth any form of respect?

Seriously, do you have one of the cards or not? Most people who do have no idea what they're doing. Can someone also tell me whether POS systems track the same info when CC's are used?

EDIT: You AGREED to the Community Standards and TOS when you signed up. The item on Disclosure says that this practice is A.O.K with the Lindens, so you can't say there a consent issue here.

And this is a perfectly valid and acceptable opinion. People with different opinions should not be treated like paranoid freaks by the ones who share your opinion now, should they?

When I use my credit card, I am consenting to have information gathered about me. My credit card does not gather information about people I walk past on the street. Try to have some respect for how others feel about this.

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I'm not outraged because this is a Linden run site. A company I have had the oportunity to give my consent to, a company I have been given the option to trust or distrust with my cc information.

I'm wondering if it's a coinsidence that Tanya Book is one of the persons, or even the only person listed on most of those people's slstats that I checked out of curiousity. Is this woman teleporting around to scan as many people as possible to fill the database of slstats? A hired "scanner"?

I dont care that my avie name is on there and I dont see anything on there that I consider breaching my privacy. That is my opinion and I totally understand the people who DO feel it is a privacy issue. That being said my question is this:

What is the point of the site? What exactly is Mark hoping to achieve by saying I talked to such and such on such and such day? As for tracking my online time I can do that through other sites that will not record the names of people who I am around sometimes.
What is the point of this site? I honestly fail to see the practical reason. Why would I want to wear such a watch?

This is an honest and unbaited question btw.

Read the edit in my previous post. In agreeing to LL's requirements, you have forfeited the right to non-disclosure of the exact things SLStats.com is supplying. This sort of database does not have to obtain your consent.