Under 18 yr Kids being Escorts and Strippers for Lindens

How are you held accountable when you have no real way of knowing. The person could say hey im 18 even if they are really some teen kid, there is no way of really knowing, people lie all the time. I disagree and say there is no real way you can be held accountable if a case of someone being with a kid in an online SL cyber session. But w/e this my last post in this thread, the whole point of this thread is rediculous and not worth my time, I say if someone wants to be an escort and lie about their age there is no way of knowing it. Thats it im done. Bye have fun wasting your time its not like this has been discussed before.

I didn't know that..

I sense a Pandastrong post...

Yup... I don't have the exact data to hand, but someone posted the correct link last time this topic came up and LL opened verification.

I think it was something to do with the fact that they don't actually employ strict checking themselves. Plus their age requirements differ in various countries anyway.

Thats why in some countries, a photo ID is required to purchase internet access services.

Damien I am telling you, you WILL go to jail... I am talking fed laws here, not your local laws. Go look it up...
You know at fist i was prickly with you, than i thought you just didn't know.. But thats not it.. your justifiying yourself...

I wonder if that "someone" pushed the issue to gain easier acces to children.

Thanks for the classified ad, but this is not true at all. There are plenty of young teens that could cyber and more very well - just as well as any adult escort in fact. Hell, I could have cleaned up as an escort in SL when I was a kid had it existed

Teens != retarded baboons

Ok, we know the problem, we know the results..

What is the answer.. And not a vague answer.. but an answer that has low cost and easily done... Also the people in the eu are part of us so no saying just one thing with not taking into account they can't.. :/

It's possible, though I'm not in a position to speculate. It's scary if true.

yeah i sure hope not, that would stun me

A most sensible option.

So we could provide copies of our id's.
Problem I see with this, is the amount of time via the mail (fax would get clogged) and the amount of time it would take to go through all of those pieces of paper, and what about the ones that aren't good copies? than it is a judgement call... than they have to file them, and keep those slips of paper as proof forever and a day...

Oh yeah, I know, but awkward checking is better than no checking at all.

IDs can be forged very easily. Mailing in copies of IDs won't help. I'm speaking from outside US and UK.

I'm getting some ideas though that can be investigated as possibilities. What I have is still easily defeatable IMO but it might curb the problem a little bit. Will post when I have something a bit coherent.

I agree - but I think that its a step in the right direction to at least limit the unverifieds to PG sims. I don't think it's a magic bullet, nothing is - they could steal a credit card to gain access (which they could have done before the open registration too). But LL has to start somewhere. Keeping unverifieds out of mature sims does however, provide a small check to keep kids out of places they shouldn't be, and that's better than nothing. You will never keep a determined kid out of an area, but it will provide a barrier to entry, so to speak.

I think LL does their best to root out the kids when brought to their attention, but now we have such a flood that it's impossible for LL to actually screen for them. LL needed to open the registration to let people have a taste of SL easily, but the kids need to be kept out of harms way if they aren't going to screen for them at the first. If they are at least not allowed into mature areas, that's a step in the right direction and the unverifieds will at least be far away from most of the mature content in SL.

And if someone runs a business needing to bump up traffic numbers for the classifieds? Rate the area PG and keep it clean of sex. Sex and minors don't mix, and many people don't want sex shoved up their nose even if they aren't a minor. Too bad for the people who run a sex business using camping chairs to bump traffic numbers, these people shouldn't have possible minors in their midst.

Who knows, might have a beneficial effect on SL, more PG sims to visit overall and the mature sims seeing less commercial activity (especially the annoying activities such as camping chairs and shouting raffle balls) as they move to PG sims to do their business.

Very scary indeed. I completely forgot about the whole using a CC as ID being illegal thing. Shops can't require a CC to verify a check either, it's considered discrimination against folk with "poor credit" who might have a spotless checking account history.

It takes more than good typing and roleplaying to be hired by me, as I said..... that is only 1/6th of the requirements.

Not everyone in Second Life is carefree about who they let work for them.

Do you have business liability insurance?

true, but we are talking about what a company will do.. They will consider that excessive. YOu have to take into account the man hours, the ppl, the training, and the storage area to maintain this.

Ok then why remove verification

what do they lose by doing that or gain?

Numbers.

I'm Canadian, we're not lawsuit crazy. Does that count as "insurance"? )

You are correct. My RL job is Over the internet sales basically.

Verification is mostly automatic.

and (name withheld) is a Huge company.

If we can't stop minors from pretending to be prostitutes on SL...

Then hopefully they'll discover how undesireable it is as a real life vocation... before they get themselves in trouble RL.

I know "they said they were 18 or older" doesn't hold up in court.... but how many people in SL actually bother to ASK how old someone is?

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Of course minors pretending to be homicidal sociopaths in SL is only a nuisance, not a legal concern. Shame it's not the other way around.