Looking at alternative forums

Thanks for the explanation ...and what's your relationship to Second Citizen?

I am a registered user, and post there occasionaly. Nothing more. I don't post a lot because I don't see a lot that I feel like replying to.

Lewis

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I dunno, guess I'm meant to stay over at SC

Not really. Hiring choices say a lot about a group or company. Hiring you indicates these people are either alive thanks only to miraculous medical machines that are doing most of the heavy lifting for their central nervous systems or that they are so out of touch with Second Life that they think they made a good choice.

I can live without either one.

I was picked because I am keen, enthusiastic, involved, active, and have a talent for the work I do (as shown by my previous experience on the TSO forums). You also have to remember that you don't really know me - and I mean the real me, not just the forum me, and therefore are not aware of my capabilities.

If you feel that you can do a better job than I, I am sure your application would be treated appropriately by the powers than be.

Lewis

Please keep this bit of wisdom in mind the next time you make yet another blanket statement about a particular group of people not belonging in SL.

I suppose... congratulations are in order?



I feel that an illiterate marsupial could do a better job at about anything, but that's neither here nor there -- nor does it endow me with any interest whatever in laboring for an employer of such dubious judgment.



The rule with Lewis, Anito, is very much "do as I say and not nearly so much as I do because my behavior is reprehensible and I'd prefer to be the only game in town who gets away with it."

God, I am so glad they are killing these forums.

coco

Oh, me too, Cocoanutter! Finally a subject upon which we may agree, yes?

Lewis, the self indulgent hypocrisy you posted here is laughable.

Surely you are mistaken. Why, look, Lewis is all these things:



That can't possibly make for a dirtbag.


Right?




RIGHT?!

What do you plan to do with yourself once the discussion forums are closed? Have you decided on any other forums you like, or are you going to - as several have stated they will do - just not choose any?

coco

DITO! As far as the alt forums, choose wisely folks and don't go by what other ppl recommend. Finding a decent forum is very hard.

Mar

More along the lines of "you won't follow me to a decent alternative forum".

Like Stratics, for example.

Lewis

I am much a fan of Second Citizen for its entertainment value. Once the forum community shards, I'm not going to bother chasing it around much. I'll take what lands wherever the narrow focus of my limited and capricious attention rests.

Hey, Margotten! How ya been, old pal?

Listen, when the entire population of Ottawa, Canada ruins your next Christmas, please be certain and post a general notice to all the shards so we know where the drama will be going down. Thanks!

You know, it's been a long, long time with you, Enabran. I have never figured out how you could be this way. It's almost like you are a parody of something. Surely. Then again, maybe not. As time has gone on, it's become - probably not.

I'll be glad,though, when these forums are over and I can stop being reminded again to wonder what it is that makes you this way. Usually I can get a grasp on something, inside of nearly everyone, even those I don't like - something, a clue, that helps me to understand the person within. You still puzzle me, though.

As the forums pass on, I'm left with concluding that what we have seen on the forums is probably really all that is there. Not a role-play, but the actual thing. Just what I have seen, nothing more, and nothing less. Nothing but this, what you have shown. Almost impossible to think, but what else is there to think?

So long, Enabran, at least from this arena, if and when they ever get around to actually lowering the boom.

coco

Aww, Cocoanut, what a sweet thing to say. I think the final closure is makin' ya just a little sentimental, now!



Fare thee well, Cocoanut. And well-played.

Question to those who are delighted that these forums are closing. Why did you come here in the first place? A sure fire way to make any forum dissapear for you is to not go there!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not shouting "love it or leave it here." I just can't think of any other situation where such a statement would be made.

"Blech! The food at this restaurant is terrible! I can't wait until they close it down. OK, see you here for lunch same time tomorrow."

Thanks for this Aimee, it's something I and others have tried to raise. Many of those "celebrating" the closure of some of the Forums don't bother to look through all the threads for the resident-to-resident help and discussion topics. When saying only a small percentage of the community is here they are disregarding the needs and wants of those who are here, are part of the community, and may be new and looking for solutions they haven't found elsewhere.

Ultimately there is a segment of residents who hate to see any criticism of Linden Lab and in their cheerleading are willing to throw out the baby with the bath water. Which appears to be Linden Lab's intention as well.

Well, Aimee, I daresay the forums have been a great deal more pleasant for you than for me.

I also hugely dislike the notion of rules that only apply to some. I know there is a huge contingent here who don't believe in rule of law, but I do.

I also hated the rule that suspension or banning from the forums means suspension or banning from the games.

I also don't like a place where bullies are allowed to pile on to others, and no amount of AR'ing them does any good, if those who are saying the things are never disciplined.

In short, this have been the worst-run forums I have ever been in, bar none. And the only thing the resmod program did (aside from making the forums a little more fair) was bring down a lot of flak on the resmods, who for the most part were only trying to help in a thankless job.

I came here in the first place because it was the official forums for SL. What did you think?

The restaurant analogy doesn't work. I know you're smart and know why it doesn't.

coco

Coco I can understand why people like or dislike the forums. All the negative things you mentioned above may be valid but it doesn't explain why you are here.

You would never see a paradoxical endictment by me of a place I frequented because if I really disliked it, I wouldn't be there. Therefore the restaurant analogy stands and seems perfectly apt.

That was the wrong url for my joke forum.

The correct url for the official Linden tribe is http://lindenlab.tribe.net .

This was started by Phoenix Linden, I believe, on 11/19/03.

It has 13 active members. Perhaps the membership is growing at an exponental rate and has yet to reach the rapid growth part of the curve. Perhaps they need to get it properly integrated into the Love Machine and that management system they use.

This has a total of 4 posts since it was created.

There is also a Second Life Resident tribe at http://secondlife.tribe.net . This was also created on 11/19/03.

This one has 12 posts.

It ain't easy being a Second Life third party forum.

I'm not sure why I have to explain why I am here any more than you should have to explain why you are here.

The restaurant analogy doesn't stand. We aren't talking about whether to go to Red Lobster where the service is awful, or go to Folks where they're sweet as pie.

We aren't even talking about whether to go to the Red Lobster five miles farther up the road instead, where the service is great.

We are talking about a thing for which there is no equal alternative: The one and only official forums of Second Life. There are no other restaurants, because there is only one official restaurant.

I love my SL experience. I love building, and I love dealing with my customers. I love my shop. I love my friends.

Like other games I have been in, there were official forums. SL had these forums as the official forums. I always participate in the official forums.

They are where you talk about the game (general), ask questions (content, technical), find out about events, find out what people are up to and their comings and goings (bulletin board), read Linden announcements, etc., etc. Where you give your opinions on how things are going (whether you like the idea of telehubs, or stipends, or whatever). Talk about SL, with others who want to talk about SL. Talk to the Lindens.

Unlike all other web site forums, these were the official forums for all of that. I wanted to help make them better.

However, the rules were arbitrarily applied, people were treated unfairly under the "rules,", and some people were allowed to cause hurt and pain and gratuitous insult to others, and I do hate to watch that, helplessly. (And as if the original pain weren't enough, some people even keep on rubbing in the same thing, for years.) Occasionally, I've AR'd the most egregious things, but nothing ever happened. Nothing.

It was hopeless, and I'm glad is going to be over.

Classified going doesn't make any sense, though. There aren't even replies allowed there! It feels like punishment to take them away from us, and I can't figure out why we are being punished.

Is there some good reason that having the Classifieds is bad?

coco

I say we kick the baby, Grim Baby style.