Roll back to 1.6

Three. It takes exactly three disclaimers.

I hope you are right, Flip.

Kendra, lets say whole bunches of people do have overblown textures, badly made scripts, etc. (I don't think its the too many attachments, cause all this happens in my Sim when there are all of two people on it.)

I think people are happier if they can have their textures and scripts, etc., than if they have to bend over backwards to create textures, scripts, etc. that might please the server.

coco

But it's just impossible that you have badly made scripts, overblown textures, avatars with too many attachments running around etc.

People who are used to benefitting from unfair distribution of resources are understandably shocked at having to limp along at a rate commensurate with EVERYONE.

I remember crashing a lot after the 1.6 update. It was fixed in a subsequent update, and the world was peaceful again. I'm confident it will happen again.

Besides, I'm SL-less for a week.

In empty sims I am experiencing this, so the attachments thing is not an issue. And I am making comparisons between pre and post update, the content hasn't changed drastically in that time.

OK I am lost as to what you mean by this. Do you mean that those who made an effort to keep things low lag now have to compensate for those who do not? Sure that's always been the way within a sim, and something I have seriously tried to keep on top of. What's different in 1.7?

Clearly you need to do more research into what manner of changes have been done in 1.7.

It's kinda like throwing a toy boat into a bath: you toss it in there and it shakes and shivers and sometimes nearly capsizes, bouncing up and down on the ripples of the water, but it'll stay floating and if you give it a little bit of time it'll settle down and it'll be fine. But you know, if you pull it out and try to throw it in a different way, you're just going to be getting different kinds of ripples and different kinds of waves, and furthermore you'd have to deal with the instable water from the last time you threw it in whereas the first time it was calm. Not to mention that all this process would take just about as long as just waiting for the water to stabalize.

Stupid analogy, but do you get what i'm saying?

From what I've seen in the SL Sex-Club scene, many people are happy to bend over backwards.

On a serious note, I have no sympathy for resource hogs.

Well just assume I do not understand these things as clearly as you do, stop being so pompous and help out another resident huh?

Hiro, I'll try.

Kendra is correct. For a very long time, a great many people were greedy when it came to resources, often not intentionally. Badly written scripts, using huge textures when small ones would suffice, and "resource hogging" have been a huge problem. In the pre-1.7 world, it would be possible for someone to buy 16 meters of land in an entire sim - that's 1/4096 of a sim, or 0.024% or a sim's total land mass - and use a ton of resources through scripts, say up to 50%, if they REALLY wanted to be mean intentionally (and some people were). There was a certain person who bought 16 meter plots in tons of sims, intentionally installed VERY laggy land scanning scripts, and then set them for sale at L$1600, or L$100 per meter - and sold most of them, through this horrid behavior.

1.7 has eliminated this kind of problem. Now, people who (either unintentionally or intentionally) wrote or used badly written scripts, or bloated textures, or a ton of other non-efficient techniques are having a rude awakening... but it is necessary to be fair. When you buy land, what you're really buying is a percentage of a server's cpu cycles. 1.7 treats it this way, instead of allowing people to bog down an entire simulator. If you use crappy code, the script you're using pays the price, not the other residents of your simulator.

Many of us over the years have preached being as efficient as possible, while not sacrificing the "cool" factor of creations, to be good for the overall community and the grid as a whole. Many creators and citizens have scoffed at this, and they are now paying the price. Its now a fact of life in SL - as it always should have been - that you should make anything you want, make it as cool as you want... but then, take the time to make your creation as efficient as possible, and avoid create resource hogs at all costs, because now it will effect your scripts performance.

Regards,

-Flip

Hiro, I'll try.

Kendra is correct. For a very long time, a great many people were greedy when it came to resources, often not intentionally. Badly written scripts, using huge textures when small ones would suffice, and "resource hogging" have been a huge problem. In the pre-1.7 world, it would be possible for someone to buy 16 meters of land in an entire sim - that's 1/4096 of a sim, or 0.024% or a sim's total land mass - and use a ton of resources through scripts, say up to 50%, if they REALLY wanted to be mean intentionally (and some people were). There was a certain person who bought 16 meter plots in tons of sims, intentionally installed VERY laggy land scanning scripts, and then set them for sale at L$1600, or L$100 per meter - and sold most of them, through this horrid behavior.

1.7 has eliminated this kind of problem. Now, people who (either unintentionally or intentionally) wrote or used badly written scripts, or bloated textures, or a ton of other non-efficient techniques are having a rude awakening... but it is necessary to be fair. When you buy land, what you're really buying is a percentage of a server's cpu cycles. 1.7 treats it this way, instead of allowing people to bog down an entire simulator. If you use crappy code, the script you're using pays the price, not the other residents of your simulator.

Many of us over the years have preached being as efficient as possible, while not sacrificing the "cool" factor of creations, to be good for the overall community and the grid as a whole. Many creators and citizens have scoffed at this, and they are now paying the price. Its now a fact of life in SL - as it always should have been - that you should make anything you want, make it as cool as you want... but then, take the time to make your creation as efficient as possible, and avoid create resource hogs at all costs, because now it will effect your scripts performance.

Regards,

-Flip

On a serious note, I have no sympathy for resource hogs.

Just exactly WHO is a resource hog, though?

I will no doubt be flamed by this --but what the hell.

If people are now experiencing what they feel is worse performance than they had before , they have been (or live near) resource hogs.

I will no doubt be flamed by this --but what the hell.

If people are now experiencing what they feel is worse performance than they had before , they have been (or live near) resource hogs.

So how do you explain my having an FPS of 20% what it was before in a sim with 0 content?

FPS is measured differently now.

I disagree entirely, totally, and completely with this whole post.

coco

So how do you explain my having an FPS of 20% what it was before in a sim with 0 content?