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Lil Carducci
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Join date: 10 Jan 2006
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08-09-2006 07:59
From: Samia Perun
You seem to be doing a good job at it without any help at all.


and you are?.... this is whats wrong with sl ... this here is a perfect example... whats your complaint? im curious?
Fred Extraordinaire
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Join date: 29 Jun 2004
Posts: 134
08-09-2006 08:03
There are many guns available in sl, not all have weeks of hard scripting work put into them, nor hours of complex weapon modelling. there are trustable vendors in sl still, even people that I myself would purchase a weapon from (not like i need more tho) I myself have never sold a weapon for more then 1k, in fact all of mine on SLE are under 900L!

above all, if you cant buy a gun that you like, make your own! thats where we all started anyways...
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Lil Carducci
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sl is down and they coming out the woodworks
08-09-2006 08:04
From: Lupus Delacroix
In all fairness I have never seen what appeared to be a ripped off design at carducci gunrunners.

In all honesty I have never seen a well scripted decent looking gun worth buying there either.

Bullet script needs options: I don't always want push, I'd like to toggle this and other features on and off.

Draw/Holster is horrid: Click on the holster? Meanwhile gesturized draws have been the norm for a while...

Ugly Models: Need I say more?

Overpriced for what you get, at half the cost these guns would be awesome, at the current cost I can get a LOT better for the same price. I see a gun like harbringer, the Baikal, or the double DE's being sold at novum, and I see quality firearms that someone put a lot of work and heart into.

I go to carducci gunrunners and I see stuff that was essentially slapped together.



Gunrunners? where the hell is that?
and are'nt you related to novum?... hmmm
Samia Perun
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08-09-2006 08:06
From: Lil Carducci
and you are?.... this is whats wrong with sl ... this here is a perfect example... whats your complaint? im curious?


My complaint with you, is that you are rude and in no way at all concerned about your customer satisfaction.

You sell sub-standard goods, and yes before you whinge I have been to your shop and its not a hash on any of the other 'large' manufacters.

Your like the Matalan of Weapon vendors, large yes, but full of cheap rubbish.

Well, not that cheap.
Samia Perun
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08-09-2006 08:08
Oh yes, also when I was a newbie I did purchase something from your shop, only to ironically find something better in Yadni's junkyard.

I beleive your 'weapon' is lurking in my trash file.
Lil Carducci
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08-09-2006 08:08
From: Hok Wakawaka
This Entire Thread Is A Disgrace And Should Be Removed


I think it should continue so we can see how low people are willing to go... and if it will work.
Lil Carducci
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08-09-2006 08:09
From: Samia Perun
My complaint with you, is that you are rude and in no way at all concerned about your customer satisfaction.

You sell sub-standard goods, and yes before you whinge I have been to your shop and its not a hash on any of the other 'large' manufacters.

Your like the Matalan of Weapon vendors, large yes, but full of cheap rubbish.

Well, not that cheap.


Have you bought from me?
Samia Perun
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08-09-2006 08:11
From: Lil Carducci
Have you bought from me?


See my post below.
Lil Carducci
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08-09-2006 08:27
From: Samia Perun
See my post below.


you got your receipt?

Hold up... you are older than me in game and I started selling guns a bit after I joined. You say you got a gun from me as a newbie? Do the math.
Samia Perun
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08-09-2006 08:28
From: Lil Carducci
you got your receipt?


Oh please.
Hok Wakawaka
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08-09-2006 08:43
From: Samia Perun
Oh please.


Please What?

You joined SL in September,2005

Carducci did not join until January, 2006.


Like I said . This is a totally worthless but malignant thread comprised of peeps throwing bullcrap for their own personal motives.
Samia Perun
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08-09-2006 08:46
From: Hok Wakawaka
Please What?

You joined SL in September,2005

Carducci did not join until January, 2006.


Like I said . This is a totally worthless but malignant thread comprised of peeps throwing bullcrap for their own personal motives.



So how does that mean I havent owned one of his substandard goods? Sure I said noob, but noob to me is defined by not falling for cheapness and knowing where the 'good stuff' is.

Would you like a hand getting down from your high horse?
Lil Carducci
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New Topic To Post Yo Hate
08-09-2006 08:46
If Im so rude and and my guns are so crappy... Why Am I On Top?
Lil Carducci
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08-09-2006 08:48
From: Samia Perun
So how does that mean I havent owned one of his substandard goods? Sure I said noob, but noob to me is defined by not falling for cheapness and knowing where the 'good stuff' is.

Would you like a hand getting down from your high horse?


ah... kinda lost me
Samia Perun
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08-09-2006 08:48
From: Lil Carducci
If Im so rude and and my guns are so crappy... Why Am I On Top?


On top of what? Sales? Money? Thats not difficult if you spam advertise the right way (seen plenty of that)

Your attitude stinks, seriously. Look at your posts, what sort of person would want to do business with you after reading that? Bear in mind that only a small percentage actually bother to come on these forums anyway.

Ill be making sure to advise people to stay well clear of you and your 'merchandise'.

In the world of firearms you wouldnt be a FN Herstal... more of a Daewoo.
Hok Wakawaka
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08-09-2006 08:52
From: Samia Perun
So how does that mean I havent owned one of his substandard goods? Sure I said noob, but noob to me is defined by not falling for cheapness and knowing where the 'good stuff' is.

Would you like a hand getting down from your high horse?


My horse is only high enough to see over the crap on the floor that remians from what has been thrown around on this thread. A thread , by ther way, which violates at least two of the Forum's established policies: NO FLAMING (Personal Attacks) and NO ADVERTISING. IMHO the Forum Moderators are asleep at the switch on this one.
Lupus Delacroix
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08-09-2006 08:58
From: Lil Carducci
Gunrunners? where the hell is that?
and are'nt you related to novum?... hmmm


Nope I'm not. Oh you mean am I in the group? Yes its called an update group, good retailers provide those to their customers so they know when their items are being updated. I specifically joined it because I wanted to track updates for the Baikal shotgun. I'm also on the isle of wyrms update group, I was a part of the Department of Experimental Ordinance group, but left it as it spams often with stupid questions like "How I texture the prim".

Know what your talking about, k thx bye.
Lil Carducci
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08-09-2006 08:59
From: Samia Perun
On top of what? Sales? Money? Thats not difficult if you spam advertise the right way (seen plenty of that)

Your attitude stinks, seriously. Look at your posts, what sort of person would want to do business with you after reading that? Bear in mind that only a small percentage actually bother to come on these forums anyway.

Ill be making sure to advise people to stay well clear of you and your 'merchandise'.

In the world of firearms you wouldnt be a FN Herstal... more of a Daewoo.



Again... Mad cause I AM on TOP. Mad cause I wont lie down & die. Mad cause the lies are starting to come to light, Mad cause Im rude to people who has it in for me for no legitimate reason. ALL Just schemes and plots.
Lil Carducci
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08-09-2006 09:06
From: Lupus Delacroix
Nope I'm not. Oh you mean am I in the group? Yes its called an update group, good retailers provide those to their customers so they know when their items are being updated. I specifically joined it because I wanted to track updates for the Baikal shotgun. I'm also on the isle of wyrms update group, I was a part of the Department of Experimental Ordinance group, but left it as it spams often with stupid questions like "How I texture the prim".

Know what your talking about, k thx bye.


dude... after pondering over this post several times.... id like to say... I cant be that high. thats one lame plug.
Zoe Llewelyn
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08-09-2006 09:22
From: Hok Wakawaka
FYI:

Only bigots and morons joke about the subject of racism.


I am not white IRL. I understand racism well, and have to deal with bigots and prejudice almost daily.

I personally find that anyone who tosses out claims of racism every time someone looks at them sideways is cheapening real racism. I find "playing the race card" to be offenseive, and it's something I refuse to ever do myself. If a bigot clearly is bigotted...its easy for the world to see in their words and actions. I do not need to point it out.

I agree racism is no joking matter when it's real. But then again, making claims of racism for no apparent reason is just as serious, IMHO.

Besides...I prefer to laugh at racists myself. It infuriates them so much.

Everything has a place in humour, even serious subjects. Often we either laugh about something serious...or we cry about it. Both have their place, and the key is knowing which to do when.
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Lupus Delacroix
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08-09-2006 09:26
From: Lil Carducci
dude... after pondering over this post several times.... id like to say... I cant be that high. thats one lame plug.


Why don't you IM the creator of the Baikal and the Desert Eagles I use themselves and find out if I'm associated. Oh wait you will just find out that your about as important in the "grand scheme of things" as the lint I just picked out of my belly button.

I have a better idea, why don't you take some of you gains from "Being on top" and go buy a couple of those "Competitors" guns and then after playing with them for a second even try to pretend that the substandard trash you pawn off is up to par.

Lets list the guns/weapons I own and see if I'm biased:

Eata Kitty's DE's - Unnasociated when I bought them, but now novum inc: Good guns, lots of options, scripting is kept up to date with almost weekly updates.

Tyrant Ludds Baikal shotgun: Good gun, shit for longrange though, and I think the slugs shoot low... I could be wrong. Lots of options... scripting kept up to date with almost weekly updates.

Carducci Dual Megs: Bad scripting, ugly model, poor draw script, no ability to turn orbit/damage/push variables on/off and the same cost as previously mentioned guns, click draw which is a PITA if I'm already running in mouselook in preperation.... need I go on?

C-tech assault armor: I'm calling it a gun, medium range of options, updated when needed, also has a lot of flight options, and it looks cool... groovy.

C-tech redemption autos: fair ammount of options, nice model, needs shield breaking however, I think with explosive rounds I can do SOME basic shieldbreaking but thats about it. These are a fungun, not much good in real/shielded combat. I'd love to own an updated set of these.

Orbz (made by DEA): when reading the box they seemed like a lot of fun..... in retrospect it was a waste of money, overcomplicated to use, pain in the ass documentation, effects... easy to turn off, not so easy to turn on. Just a general clusterfuck. Actually it would probably work well if the "How too" manual wasn't all dicked up.

Souls of the Damned (DEA again): These are fun, sure it mimics a lot of stuff Psitec and others do, but hells if it isn't stylish.

Psitec (All modules installed): This is the win button. Period. This is the only single weapon i have on me at all times. There is no arguing, there is no fighting it. It is god. You want a product plug? Here it is. Psitec owns. Now if I could just get Luc to send me money....

Thats what I got, I think I have one other C-tech gun but its not worth mentioning as its a showpiece with the same features as the redemption.

You want a product endorsement from me? You want me to jerk off over your guns? Lower the price to about 600L, then you will be right in the pricerange for the quality you offer. You sell good 500-600L guns. You sell shitty 1200L guns. Any questions?
Eata Kitty
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Join date: 21 Jan 2005
Posts: 387
08-09-2006 09:41
Dear god this turned into a horrible thread. I didn't want to post here but I need to correct that the Desert Eagle's are Hugo's not mine. I scripted, support and retail them but he made them, it's a pretty informal business parternship. We are also not Novum although we sell alongside Tyrant and he supplied some stuff for the guns.

We're going to have a full brand for the next gun and we're going to rebrand the Eagle's to help.
Samia Perun
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Join date: 7 Sep 2005
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08-09-2006 09:52
From: Lil Carducci
Again... Mad cause I AM on TOP. Mad cause I wont lie down & die. Mad cause the lies are starting to come to light, Mad cause Im rude to people who has it in for me for no legitimate reason. ALL Just schemes and plots.


You didnt answer my questions, they are the things with that funny squiggle '?' after.

Please do, provide proof that your soooo good.

Kthx. lol.
Hok Wakawaka
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08-09-2006 09:52
From: Lupus Delacroix
Why don't you IM the creator of the Baikal and the Desert Eagles I use themselves and find out if I'm associated. Oh wait you will just find out that your about as important in the "grand scheme of things" as the lint I just picked out of my belly button.

I have a better idea, why don't you take some of you gains from "Being on top" and go buy a couple of those "Competitors" guns and then after playing with them for a second even try to pretend that the substandard trash you pawn off is up to par.

Lets list the guns/weapons I own and see if I'm biased:

Eata Kitty's DE's - Unnasociated when I bought them, but now novum inc: Good guns, lots of options, scripting is kept up to date with almost weekly updates.

Tyrant Ludds Baikal shotgun: Good gun, shit for longrange though, and I think the slugs shoot low... I could be wrong. Lots of options... scripting kept up to date with almost weekly updates.

Carducci Dual Megs: Bad scripting, ugly model, poor draw script, no ability to turn orbit/damage/push variables on/off and the same cost as previously mentioned guns, click draw which is a PITA if I'm already running in mouselook in preperation.... need I go on?

C-tech assault armor: I'm calling it a gun, medium range of options, updated when needed, also has a lot of flight options, and it looks cool... groovy.

C-tech redemption autos: fair ammount of options, nice model, needs shield breaking however, I think with explosive rounds I can do SOME basic shieldbreaking but thats about it. These are a fungun, not much good in real/shielded combat. I'd love to own an updated set of these.

Orbz (made by DEA): when reading the box they seemed like a lot of fun..... in retrospect it was a waste of money, overcomplicated to use, pain in the ass documentation, effects... easy to turn off, not so easy to turn on. Just a general clusterfuck. Actually it would probably work well if the "How too" manual wasn't all dicked up.

Souls of the Damned (DEA again): These are fun, sure it mimics a lot of stuff Psitec and others do, but hells if it isn't stylish.

Psitec (All modules installed): This is the win button. Period. This is the only single weapon i have on me at all times. There is no arguing, there is no fighting it. It is god. You want a product plug? Here it is. Psitec owns. Now if I could just get Luc to send me money....

Thats what I got, I think I have one other C-tech gun but its not worth mentioning as its a showpiece with the same features as the redemption.

You want a product endorsement from me? You want me to jerk off over your guns? Lower the price to about 600L, then you will be right in the pricerange for the quality you offer. You sell good 500-600L guns. You sell shitty 1200L guns. Any questions?



The prices for a Carducci gun being thrown around here has been 1200L. That price is for dual guns, i.e., 2 guns. The Gate Keepers, truly an excellent looking and firing gun and all the gun anyone will ever need on Sl is an exception and sells for 1500L for one when I last looked.
William Dalgleish
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08-09-2006 09:56
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