Inventory Management

Just give us another folder like My Inventory (online storage) and call it My Attic (for near-line storage). But as LL knows, you need incentives or 'motivaters' to make people do this. Sure some of us will but most wont care unless threatened with more costs.

I'd say poor Johnny is somewhat unlucky that he always gets to be the one to push people's inventory over their limit, and needs to move his goods higher up people's priority list with some better marketing for his kick ass planes

I kid. Honest.

this is what I proposed some time ago.

maybe people wouldnt need to be kicked in the ass to do it if stuff were able to be 'auto archived'? Like, you could have a preference that says 'auto archive stuff I haven't used for 30/60/90 days'.

ROFL

Honestly I would love to continue to buy everyone excelent clothes, gadgets, vehicles, ect. but if it means that i pay LL more than I am now, naw I'm not gonna do it. I think the 300-500 per month they are getting outta me now is enough .

Hey we all have our limits. This is mine.

Cat

Shaddup a minute Kris we're trying to make a point...

Now back on topic...




Colette the point is if they allow it on individuals Clients then the individual has control of their own inventory size based on their own sysem.

I have mentioned this previously...Now Imagine the ability to have a singular file that has a simple max ability of say 4 gig. This is a readly available size to store on a dvd recorder. So think if a person was able to Store that file to DVD they could in essence back up their inventory keep it safe and if something happend and borked up SL they could reinstate thier inventory.

Or Better yet they build up new product they sell it after a year they still have this product in their inventory but they want to get rid of it. But due to customer service they just cant delete it cause it may be hard as hell to recreate.

So with the ability to store inventorys on their client they could run a back up save the data and wala they have their old stock safely tucked away on an old inventory file.

With a little manipulation LL could allow access to that saved file by allowing residents the ability to redirect to that DVD or CD when they needed to access old inventory Items...

Oh well Im rambling again never mind the Shadow on the wall.....

Shadow

I actually find myself agreeing with you on some of this Cat!
You raise some valid and interesting points here.

I know. It was a shock for me too.

Exactly Excellent Post Shad!

Someone else mentioned this I think it was Claire. Even if ppl used a U-Store it place the inventory would still be on the db. There would be no change. The only effective way to manage inventory would be for the user to manage it as Shad so elequently explains.

Cat

Why thank you Lector and Kris

Cat

I definitely disagree with putting our inventories on our local computers, for two reasons:

1. Chance of hacking, duplicating and/or corruption.

2. Hard Drive failures.


Now number 2 could be somewhat overcome if LL's servers kept the master inventory and updated to the client once every log on or once every hour when in-world, so if the client/local version was lost, you could still recover a recent version of your inventory for LL's servers.

A banking system keeps all the info on LL's servers, but just makes a large portion of it archived and tucked away and not accessed nearly as often.

*cough*

what, moreso than leaving them on the asset server? All three come quite easily already!

LOL actually Cat after 29 months I am begining to sound like a broken record....

No Government (Player run that is)
No BS intermediary systems that will create duplication of server actions and calls
NO TAXES...ever again

Ghod the list goes on and on and on....

hmm storing on the client sounds like a really good idea the more thats said about it.

Instead of buying servers and having databases for 100% of everyone inventories, they would only need a smaller number? 25%?

Then there would be 28,000+ other data storage places available for the rest .. the customers own hard drives.

Someone could even host 3rd party websites to allow people to upload inventory for back up storage .. My yahoo mail is 250 MB .. just a random thought.

If its some texture / etc that isnt in the database on a daily basis, when you upload it it would go through the same process of uploading a texture does now perhaps.

Cough..."BULLSHIT"

Sorry already explained how it would be benificial

and as for #1 thats already being done without access to an individuals PC...

1. there is that chance with LL also, but a good point none the less. Perhaps a 3rd party program that manages files needs to be created that would not only download the inventory to the users system but manage it, by also maintaining the perms on each file.

2. Zip drive, CD, DVD removable storage. (Always a good idea for any system with information you may need to retrieve later.)


Cat

Well..one man's bullshit is another man's frisbee!

Cat hands Shad a 24 caret gold needle there are still a few more miles left to play them old 45's baby

Cat

The only full-item data I would suggest being backed up is items you have full copy-permissions on. In that case, who CARES if you duplicate it or hack it? Hacking it could be gotten 'round with some stringent upload-filter scrutiny, for the most part, though.

But you don't have to send the entire inventory to the client. Just the information you can see in the inventory window, basicly: Folder structure and contents, plus an encrypted inventory reference. The actual items would still be server-side under the system most people have talked about. But this way, searches can be done client-side, and the only time a massive lump of data has to be sent for the inventory is when a person logs in on a new computer/re-install. The rest of it can be handled by simple addition and subtraction to the existing file.

As for the possibility of hard disk failures... If you aren't already backing up data, it's a good time to start.

I agree. I'm a PC tech and see folks lose data almost daily because they don't back up their files. That's exactly why I would caution against the client-side approach.

Also as a follow on note for those of the security worried...the inventory could be stored in a single file that is encripted and associated by a keycode only able to be provided by LL when connected to the servers.
If its tampered with a security script shuts down access to the file logs the individual off from second life. There are ways to protect stuff its just a matter of if they want to go that far or not.

Oh well.

Shadow

Very nice.

Cat

lol..well..I guess that's true. But people can be damn devious..and leaving some windows unlocked doesn't mean we shoulkd leave the door wide open as well.

Limited inventory is fine - IF we can download items to our local HD - otherwise it will result in all sorts of problems.

On shopping trips for example you might have to trek to a depot to unload inventory before you could return to the store to purchase.
I wouldn't be happy with that - neither I suspect would store owners when they saw sales drop... Because people won't do it.

Thank you Reitsuki, exactly what I was trying to say without being technical.

how about this: all your stuff reside in the central stuff bank. When you login, you have a default list of items you always need (clothes you are wearing, items etc...). Those items gets downloaded to your home PC "as a copy". Now, since you only have a copy of your original, any tempering of the object to change the permissions would be detected on the server by simply comparing the copy with the stored original... Simple?

I'm not a programmer, but I solve problems for a living.